Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Kouts IN
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Ive hunted Plotts and Walkers for sometime now. RiverRat hunts also and he has Bluedogs. He was exagerating a touch here and there but there is some truth in his statements. I have recently given up on the Plott hounds. My father still hunts them alot. They are great show and water dogs but they lack a little in the woods. I found they start young and tree well but, after a year or 2 they loose the treeing desire. Im not sure but, maybe it comes from the big game breeding. My walker bloodlines my dad has had before the brindled hounds produced many Gr and Nt Ch. He has only had one NT ch Plott and this was one at small hunts. She was a tuff hound but started leaven the wood. She deserves a bullet. Shed have one in her skull if she was mine. RiverRat has had 6 or 7 dogs , all blues and all treed there own coon at 6 months. This is true. 2 are Ntch with wins towards grand and lots of money in PKC. Ray BUD should produce everynight with a title like that. PKC thats another story. Plotts arnt even in the top list of reproducers for anythin so who cares what bud has thrown. I had a =Bud dog and he hunted just like I saw Bud do. SH-TTY.
Walkup Im sure has descent hounds and is a great man but, can his dog or ANNE win away from home. I can beat alot of dogs in my home turf. PLOTTS ARE PROVIN NOT TO BE CONSISTANT COONHOUNDS> ITS IN THERE HISTORY,PRESENT, AND FUTURE

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: ABINGDON VA
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I'M TRYIN NOT TO GET SUCKED IN, BUT THE IGNORANCE IS OVERWHELMING CONCERNING OUR PLOTT HOUNDS. I'M CONFIDENT THAT MANY OF THE OPINIONS I SEE HERE ARE UNFOUNDED BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT WE AS PLOTT HUNTERS SHOULD DO MORE TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE HAVE. BUT ALAS SOME OF THESE WILL SEE AND NEVER BELIEVE.

MIKE WRIGHT

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Michigan
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Well Dave, I guess I misjudged you, you get on here and criticize Anne and you don't know anything about her, best of luck with those Walkers.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: North Carolina
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Please keep hunting them Walkers dogs!!!

You and your opions will only hurt the Plott Hound. And I do not want them to hunt like Walkers.


Ray;

Sorry I did not get to talk to you and meet you at Plott days. I would love to see your Anne dog be the next world champ.

I have a young female with some Sarge breeding up close. She is a pistol on coon and our barn cats. I am going to run her this weekend with the older dogs and I am sure she will do well.

Good luck and take a kid hunting.

Jesse

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Michigan
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Jesse, thanks winning a world hunt in any registry takes alot of luck as well as a very good hound for a few nights. The statements about my hound are unfounded as they know nothing about her or where or what she's won or those statements wouldn't have been made. Anne has won in 5 different states and put in hunts in 7 different states in PKC and UKC. Unfortuntly most Plott people are the biggest critics of Plotts, our biggest supporters have been the other breed hunters that have won or lost against us.

Its sad to see someone come on here and downplay anothers hound especially when they're judging on one night. John Walkup is a good honest houndsman weather its competing, judging or selling a hound, he doesn't deserve this and he's worked hard and not been afraid to compete Bud in good times and bad. These are just hounds that we hunt for fun and a little competition. John would never go on a forum and criticize anyone or their hound, but its not the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last, as a World Ch in any registry is a big target.

Thanks again Jesse and I look forward to meeting you.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Grenada , MS
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Why do I hunt Plotts? When you look through the pages of the magazines at the advertisements and hunt results it looks like I am hunting A loser as Breeds other than Plotts are in the spotlight.I have much respect for these other breeds and there owners and I am not A fool as I realise the Plott Breed as A whole will never replace or even match them in the organized nite hunts although there are A few individuals who can compete with the very best .
In 1958 I got my first reg . dog an 8 week old Plott puppy. His sire was Kids Rock his dam A Von Plott female This pup really turned me on to the Plotts. His name was Wildwood Okie Joe by the time he was 18 mounths old he was A coondog in every way forty plus years later I am still hunting this same line of Plotts .
So lets run down to the swamps of Louisiana and take A hog hunt with my good friend Orvel Roberts and strike trail bay and finally catch A 150-300 pound hog with enough Ivory in it's mouth to build A small piano.
now lets head for Colorado and do A little Lion hunting with another friend Lester Mundy and see these Plotts cold trail A cat most of the day and when it jumps still have enough speed and determination left to make A big Tom take A tree and be there as long as it takes for us to get there.
Now lets head for the big swamp in Georgia and take A Bear hunt with Robert Jones and see these Plotts run and fight A Bear and force it to tree . And now bring your best and come on down to MS and we will see if they are coondogs or not . These Plotts are A versatile hunting dog and will excel on all typs of game . I feel they will never be replaced by the organized nite hunt breeds .So why do I hunt Plotts? Well you might say it just feels right .
Consider the percentage of good dogs in other breeds as compared to the Plotts we don't look that bad in fact we look pretty good compared to some breeds .

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Comer, Georgia
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are truly hilarious..............that Plott on the bloodlines cover, out of Georgia, doesn't seem to lack tree power............when I was a youngster and huntin' in the hunts in Pa, Maryland, and Virginia......some of the best coon dogs there were Plotts.........Auburn and Berlin King had some sho'nuff hounds................didn't care for one of the owners much, but he did have good hounds.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: N.H.
Posts: 28

Well said Paul. Its sad to see people on here maybe not understanding a certin breed, all breeds of hounds will have good and bad in them. We run plotts along with our redbones, yup im sure to a lot of you these 2 breeds dont cut it for you but they do for us! The Plott is a very universal hound used on many types of game, they are not mean or ill by nature but as in any hound breed you will get one once in awhile that is. Any breed of hound has the ability to track and tree game it all depends on what your looking for in your lines that you run. Its up to the buyer to study the different lines of the breed hes interested in and make as logical a choice as possible for the types of game he or she wants to run. I think thats true with any of the breeds. Well nuff said by me its just my opinion. Keep em treed no matter what you have in your kennel .

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Location: Jacksonville,Nc
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NEXT THING WE WILL HAVE VIDEO GAME COONHUNTERS.HUNT ON THE COMPUTER.PLOTT DOGS ARE JUST A GOOD AS ANY HOUND BUT NOT PERFERD AS MOST. THANKS GREAT JOB

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My dog has drawn out with the Annie dog and he can testify to her winning "away from home". A lot of this stuff being said about Plotts on here is being said by them that don't get taken seriously by many. Garbage in, garbage out. The problem with the Plott breed is that there are not enough Steins, Walkups or Wrights. But than again, looking at some of these Walkers being bred, maybe there are enough.....

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Akron, Alabama
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I would still like to hear the story about the Heat dog and how the World Hunt went.
I will put my 2 cents in. I have only been hunting Plotts for alittle over 2 years. I have been coonhunting for 32 of 44 years. I have never had the money to buy a so called top dog. I have hunted Blue dogs, Walkers and now Plotts. So far the best dog I have had was a Blue one just very ill, that is no fun. I have hunted for a Walker Breeder and his Stud dog pups off many different females, a very shy bunch that did not take to water very well. Where I hunt these briar thickets get rough, a dog has to like water and have heart to tree in these conditions. I have found it in Plotts. Being new to the breed I have had more tree power with other breeds, but I have never had the closeness and compaionship I have with these Plotts. They live to PLEASE. Over time and breeding I will have the treeing accuracy that I like.
This is not to mention the Plott people, they are willing to go out of their way to help. Again for a fellow that tryies to work everyday and make a living the pups are not out-ragiously priced.
You have to be a rich man to buy pups with 1 or 2 of other thebreeds. The days of the hard hunting pleasure hunter are about over. I am not knocking anyones breed or dogs. Just from my experience.
Hunt the dogs that satisfy you and your hunting conditions.
When I don't have to get on my knees, beg and feed my dogs my sardines to get them around the truck to catch and load half my battle is won. I have found it in my Plotts.
Larry

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Location: SC
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Alot of people that hunt Plotts don't competition hunt and hunt big game only with their dogs,so only a ever get comp hunted,and only a very few get campaigned like the other breeds.I have a few Plotts,have hunted with several more Plott dogs and can tell you that they hunt every bit as good as the other breeds.A good dog,is a good dog regardless of what breed it is and competition hunting is not for everyone.About Heat winning the world title,i haven't heard the story before,but it takes a coondog to get that far in that event regardless.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: East Tennessee
Posts: 553

I have tried to leave this post alone but it keeps burning a hole in my gut... If anyone doesn't think that plotts make competion dogs they can come on Down to the Smoky Mountains of East Tennessee and see some competion Plotts go with anything you want to bring. I have won 13 cast this spring including winning my cast at Plott Days, with a young dog & I hunt in the Heart of PKC Country. I only hunt UKC & regularly draw out with top competion PKC dogs. when you go to a UKC hunt and Draw handlers like David Carr, Ronnie Nickens, Ashley Hopkins, Brian Reece, Gene Hicks, Ray Kincade & ect. week end and week out and come away with 13 cast wins and making a young dog a UKC Dual Gr.Ch. in 4 months, then my friend you have a coon dog. My "COON DOG" also is a Hog Dog here at the Hunting Lodge. He was on about 200 hogs last year alone. So bring one of them Booticks or Wal-curs and try to do the job he does. We will hunt 2 hours in the woods for coon and 2 hours for hogs and you will see why my family has bred plott dogs since before most of you were born.The last man that came down with some wal-curs had dogs so rough and bad he had to fix the fence from them trying to get out of the pen, His big and bad Wal-curs tore up about 12 feet of fence trying to get out..... I had to throw some 7 month old plotts in there to get them hogs off of his Wal-Curs........

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plotts coon dogs????????

i never new they made such a thing

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Location: Comer, Georgia
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a Plott was somethin' ya got buried in until I got one...............so I named him Hard Harted Cemetery Plott............terry for short.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Kouts IN
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Everyone gets on here and breed bashes. Im not that way I simply stated a few facts that if any houndsmen researches will find to be true. I think just about any coon hunter would love to have a plott. There goodlooking and muscled up. If they were producing what we houndsmen want we would see more of them. Until than a Plott man can not argue these facts. Sure theres one here or there but I even had a pitbull and a huskie that would tree a coon.
"" LETS WEED OUT THE LEAST and BREED IN THE BEAST""

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Location: Comer, Georgia
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4 months old......he's already treein' a caged coon............hope he turns out as good as his dad.(He's out of Curtis Walkers stuff).

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Talala, Oklahoma
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I have never been privileged to hunt with a Plott, though I did hunt some with an old dog that was half Plott and half walker. He was a decent kind of dog, nothing fancy, but would tree a coon.

I think Walkup's Montana Scout was the prettiest Plott hound I ever saw advertised.

And I'm still waiting for the rest of the story on why all Plott men ought to be ashamed of Sizzlin'Heat.

If you aren't going to tell your story, don't get on the board and hint that you have some kind of inside knowledge that the rest of us poor ignoramuses are unaware of. If you are so "in the know," enlighten us. Don't just insinuate and then crawl back in the corner.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: IOWA
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I know there is a man is southern Iowa breeding some fine coondogs. They are plotts and they have been breed for just coonhunting out of coondogs.

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Location: Michigan
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JIM, I appreciate your comments, Larry Payne I know you're headed in the right direction, and Jason you are a hard hunter and a very proud and imotional promoter or your Plotts. The things said on here about our Anne dog are non truths, she is a PKC Ch and UKC NtCh in 4 hunts and quite possibly could'a been 3 but we were dryholed by a Master of hounds that hunts Plotts.
Mike Wright I know you and many other of these Plott hunters are used to this as am I, I guess I just take it personal when its our dog being singled out, if I'm out of line I appologize.

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A bluedog has won the AKC world hunt and the NKC world hunt.As far as plott coondogs,Their are several in southern OH.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: atalissa iowa
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IVE HAD PLOTTS FOR 33 YEARS AND I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TREE POWER,SOUND LIKE TO ME YA NEED TO CHANGE STRAINSM IFFIN YOUR HAVIN TREE PROBLEMS. NOW TO GET ON HERE AND BAD MOUTH A DOG CUZ YOU HUNTED HIM ONE NITE AND HE LOOKED BAD REALLY ISNT FAIRTO THE DOG OR THE MAN THAT OWNS HIM.I CANT FIGURE OUT WHY AS PLOTT PEOPLE THERE IS SO MUCH JEALOUSY, I DONT CARE WHO OWNS THE PLOTT IF HE WINS IM PROUD OF THAT DOG AND HIS OWNER.SEEMS ANYTIME A PLOTT WINS BIG THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE PLOTT BREED THAT HAVE TO CUT THE DOG OR THE MAN DOWN. I GUESSS JEALOUSY IS A MANS WORST ENEMY.COME ON PLOTT PEOPLE LETS GET TOGETHER AND MAKE ARE BREED SOMETHIN TO BE PROUD OF.REMEMBER ALWAYS DO WHATS RIGHT AND YOU WILL NEVER GO WRONG.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Michigan
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Well stated Fred.

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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Kouts IN
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I never bad mouthed nuthin. I wished ud read my other thread.
Im gettin reemed by old freinds for no reason. I switched colors is all. Plotts didnt suit me. I never lied or knocked doggs. I just asked a question or 2 and stated a few facts. Jason Ive seen the pics of your hounds and u have a GrNT THATS TUFF TO DO AT ANYCLUB. i JUST AINT FOUND IT.

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Michigan
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Dave, I replied to you on the other post, but answer what night did you hunt with Bud and what night did River Rat hunt with Bud?

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