truly
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: minnesota
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i took a good long look at that card last night. having been on several cast that have gone over 1000+ plus points legitimately, it is amazing how you can suddenly put 600 points on the card in the blink of an eye. when i drew out with jet 8 two years ago when he was really clicking, he put up something like 1575 on a night that didnt even seem that good of hunting. i figured he had a score of about 800-900, til we did the math and had to rethink the whole hunt to make sure we hadnt written a drop down twice or something like that.
so after looking that card over in last months cb and trying to imagine exactly how the hunt went based on strike and tree positions, i have come to the conclusion that it absolutely could be a legit card. the cast would have had to have hunted along tree lines where shining was quick and easy. there was a drop where i believe three dogs were split and all plussed 125.if they got treed nearly simultaneously, near each other, they would not have had to wait the five on any of those trees. if the coon are there, shining goes a lot quicker. the part that i find hard to believe is that there are 3 circle trees and one minus scored during the hunt- rarely do people not use almost the full ten to shine a circle tree, and even more rare that a tree can be scored quickly if it is minused. in a normal hunt those four trees would have burned up probably 30-40 minutes alone.
on the first drop alone because dog b was out trailing the entire time [strike deleted] the three trees scored would have required waiting the five, considering that two of the trees were circled, which would usually require at least five minutes of shine time. three times five[waiting] plus three times five[shining circle trees] put you at thirty used on the first drop. on the 2nd and third drops they scored six more trees, and after that dog b withdraws and signs off on 29 minutes used.
from the point that dog b withdraws everything is possible timewise. when dog b withdrew, there would have been 4 people present when the card was signed. do we really think that four people together would falsify a scorecard together? a few of these guys are kinda bigtime. would they really risk there future in UKC to help out one dog? maybe, but i kinda doubt it.
this card really tells us the importance of signing the left hand column, filling in times and scores before leaving a cast. i would say the only possibility of fraud on this cast is if it wasnt , and was filled in later falsely. note that the original judge was the owner of dog b. there is no way that a judge leaving a cast would not know the time or scores properly when leaving, and fill it out properly.
all that aside, i would love to hear a play by play of the first few drops from someone on the cast. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE SHOULD LAY OFF THESE GUYS. THERE WERE 790 DOGS ENTERED IN THIS HUNT. THAT MEANS ABOUT 200 CASTS OF DOGS. THE ODDS OF ONE DOG AND ONE CAST HAVING EVERYTHING GO RIGHT FOR TWO HOURS OF HUNTING TIME IS EXCEPTIONALLY HIGH. from a minnesotans point of view, we dont 790 dogs entered in all of our night hunts in an entire year. we dont have the coon population that ohio, indiana have, and yet inevitably every year someone comes in with a 1000 point night. if 1000 can be done here, 1750 can be done there.
just my two cents worth.
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10-03-2008 03:40 PM
