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GA DAWG
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I know Rat had another young dog finish to ntch fri night...I think shes about 17 months old..

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rgregory
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Lipper been dead to long there,s an age limit on historical also.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eric Gregory
I think we meant the same thing.


my old dog is still in the reproduce. inthe walkers and he is 12 be 13 in september.

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MikeO
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quote:
Originally posted by rgregory
Lipper been dead to long there,s an age limit on historical also.
oh ok is there any lipper studs that are on the list or reproducing real good.i seen tj's stylish lipper in the cooner i really like the looks of him. ive heard some good things about them.

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Walkerfied
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Not sure about TJ's Stylish Lipper but I have hunted with a few really nice ones off of Cade, unfortunately some really bad ones too. LOL

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Travis Eastman
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why would there be an age limit on historical??? is that not what historical is? that is why there is a current and a historical

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quote:
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why would there be an age limit on historical??? is that not what historical is? that is why there is a current and a historical

true, i agree i dont think there should be a limit on historical.

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Steve Flint
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quote:
Originally posted by Nat Thomas
Todd Kellam JUST called me and informed me that the number of nite hunts is the highest point it has been since he started. The average number of dogs entered in nite hunts is virtually the same.

The major thing is that MOST people in the coonhound world are starting to understand about fixing genetics(ie. linebreeding) to get a predictable outcome and when to outcross. Therefore, we will start to see more studs reproduce higher percentages. It's taken a long time but coonhound breeders are finally starting to learn some of the things that other working dog breeders (ie. German Sheperds, Belgian Malinois) have known for years.

Another thing that I'm starting to see fade away is jealousy within the breeds. People are starting to breed their females to studs that are compatible with their female, and are reproducing. Instead of "I'm not going to breed to that dog because so and so owns it." Which we all know happens.





We will see records broken.



You can only line breed so long then the bottom falls out of the line in coonhounds:
(breeding coonhounds is prob the most difficult thing to breed because you are breeding to get good in so many traits, herding dogs and shepherds don't have to excel in nearly as many traits as a coonhound to be useable)
A line breeding produces cookie cutter litters (means they may all be decent but the chances of getting that great one decline every time you breed!) Most of your freakishly good dogs are from outcrosses. you also get the good with the bad, sometimes line breeding you get more bad than good. Out crossing is what made the coonhounds of 10-20 yrs ago have strong traits, nose, tracking (those 2 are different), locating (accuracy which is not being bred for), IMHO I have seen the Walkers decline in the last 10 yrs to the point it is hard to find a cold nosed dog that can trail and tree a cold coon and move the track like they used to be able to. Too many all Grand Pedigrees. winning hunts on circle points and winning competitions against other average dogs don't make a dog a coondog!

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