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I have a line bred Nailor dog I am going to start promoting. He is 16 mo old and has 2 wins toward gr. nt. He will be able to throw a four generation all grand pup when he is finished. He is by Skipper and his great grandmother on the bottom side is a sister to Nailor.

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Anybody got anything out of Texas Lotto? What does he throw?

Nailor dogs seem to be lazy, quite on track and mean. They do throw good mouths though. I havn't hunted with a whole bunch but that is just my experience with them.

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There are good ones in all bloodlines if you hunt enough of them.... from what I've seen Nailor lines as a whole don't hunt and tree too much but have seen a couple decent ones..... constant production of mouth, looks also, don't know about the sons and what they produce lost interest shortly.... Haven't seen the mean everyone else has, seen some gigantic hounds 80-90 pounders.... Nailors production I feel followed alot of his Sire not much hunt and alot of tree but Nailor brought them out of the spooky crap that alot of Tar Rattler dogs carried.... I'm talking as a whole not just the select ones that are in the good category....

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm......the plot thickens....lol....

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Harold I was trying to be nice about it! LOL personally I wouldn't hunt walkers if nailor was the only bloodline in it. I have never seen one worth a bullet.

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I have owned 2 dogs off Nailor and Anna, Sounder and High ball, Sounder Coondog, High ball slick treeing idiot, also owned about 10 other Nailor dogs. most were loud hard tree dogs, never encourage a Nailor dog to tree.

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Of the Nailor bred dogs that you have been impressed with,what bloodline were they crossed on?

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He would cross on anything, but I would cross him on a lot of track and nose. But some Nailor dogs I have had were great track dogs, some had great noses. only had one mean one. Old Sounder is 9 or 10 and is still the right kind. Gets deep in a heartbeat, by hisself 95 percent of time, not a mean hair on him, have the coon. He made a lot of people that talked bad about old Nailor before they hunted him come back to the truck awful quiet.

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sounds like you have the wrong idea of nailor dogs you are welcome to come and hunt with mine my dog is neither lazy quiet on the track or mean he is very cold nosed and can drift a track as good as any dog i have hunted with his mouth on the track is perfect he opens according to how cold or hot the track is he leaves my feet hunting not running for a mile before starting to hunt he is a natural layup dog like the man said their are good ones and bad ones in all bloodlines we can pick out faults in any dog
as far as Texas Lotto I have a litter on the ground right now lotto is definately reproducing just look at the classifieds do you ever see many lotto dogs for sale no because most people are happy with them i think lotto is a very intelligent dog who passes these traits along plus desire and natural ability while visiting Tom he has alot of young dogs in the kennel beside each other I never heard a growl or seen a bristle raised and they definatley have big noses as long as this bloodline preforms I will always hunt it

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you are right, there are good ones and bad ones. I am glad you were fortunate enough to find a good one. It's just my opinion that there are way way more bad ones then good ones. I haven't hunted with a whole lot of them, but I have hunted with enough to form the opinion that I have of them. It just seems that the same bad traits haunt every Nailor dog I have seen. I would love have one to change my opinion, but the fact is that it won't happen. One coondog out of Nailor will not erase the 200 that are awful. Like I said, good luck with your dog, I guess that is why there are red cars and black cars, different strokes for different folks.

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I think the bottom line here is almost half of ukc's current top reproducing list is out of Nailor. And 3/4 of the stud dogs are out of Jr. Someone else needs to do the math on that one.

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titles are not the measure of hound, or what a hound produces. I am sure everyone here will agree with that. So the reproducers list can go out the window.

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Ok , no problem, they may as well get rid of the P A D pedigrees too, they don't don't mean anything.

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I agree, we have to have a standard to go by and the reproducer's list a good place to start. Throw out the reproducer's list and the percentage of Tiltled dogs Sackett Jr produced and all we know is that he was a good reproducer. By looking at the list we know he is by far and away the best ever on record.

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I think that i read somewhere that Nailor died 2 or 3 years ago,how old was he and was he still "at stud" then?

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Sam you are correct my male out of nailor was in the last litter sired by him and he is 3 yrs old I am not sure of his age but I think he was around 10 but I am not sure
do not let alot of the negative comments on this board sway your judgement Nailor did reproduce and his pups and grand pups are reproducing i have hunted with alot of bloodline of walkers and have seen them come and go but if your interested in a certain bloodline do your homework and go for it I have owned walker hounds most of my life and have been active in the competition circuit for over 20 years but nailor lines work well over a lot of different lines hayes harry sackett jr bozo lipper
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Nailor was 8 when he died.....

Don't be swayed by a couple that got lucky and got good ones either.... No matter what stud or line the majority are less than desirable.... But just as I stated no negativity... the truth only the up side of Nailor hounds looks, mouth, treedogs(hard), the downside no hunt, too much tree. Just don't jump on someones band wagon because so-n-so got a good one.... you need to check them out for yourself and remember its not all the male as the female has 50% of the DNA of the offspring and according to how long the pup is around its mother will adopt learned habits at a young age, they won't affect hunting but will affect handling, demeanor.

After thinking about it I have had 3 grandsons to Nailor 2 were from Cafe got them because of the mother one made a gr.nt. the other nothing (no hunt would tree) one from Cruise I think it was or the other one down his way anyway again no hunt but this dog was good good in company first treedog and had coon.... bought him for 200 at 7 months sold him for 100 at 15 months.... the dog is now 4 and the same but the boy loves him to death as he never hunts alone so he works for him.

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How much of the bad "traits" that all the different bloodlines have,be traced back to the way they were trained?Example:mean dogs

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I think you need to go hunting with a Nailor dog and find out first hand. I am not in the stud dog business, but I have a son of Nailor or a grand-son of Nailor that you are welcome to come hunt with. If you desire information on Nailor I would suggest you contact Jess Dickerson. As for being the best producer, look in Bloodlines, it hasn't changed. Thats not my opinion, its just the facts.

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heres a good question for people who raise pups from any bloodline or breed what is the percentage of pups born who go on to run and tree and do a good job how many pups bought are actually trained and not just put in a pen till they are to old to train its problay less than you think and just because they are not hunted in hunts doesnt mean they do not make good dogs
so if the pups are not given a oppurtunity then the % is lower
I can not be sure that every pup I sell will be trained I have only had 1 litter in 20 yrs that all of the pups would run and tree their own coon if a breeder gets 70% then thats a good % But I have and will always belive unless someone changes my mind that the bozo line was the most consistent line I ever owned I do wished that would have had colder noses though
but I do love that nailor line works well here in the rough mtns of east tenn

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I have only hunted with one Nailor dog so far (or at least that i knew was out of Nailor),he was an older male with an super loud mouth for his age,i liked his track running and treeing ability.That was one reason for my post,to see what other people thought of Nailor's reproducing traits and what was typical in a pup with his bloodline.At least it's a starting point,i have some pro's and con's about his bloodline and can go from there now.

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Has won just as much as any man living in the past 5 years. With his Nailor dogs so all you Nailor bashers quit ripping on the Nailor dogs unless you have won more than Jess. Monty

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I believe Mabel and Xjr were carrying the same portion of Sackett Jr. blood as Nailor...... need to put the credit where its deserving .....on the cross not just one dog. Not really knocking the line just presenting the whole picture album instead of a snapshot.......

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Everbody started somewhere....

Are you saying that Mabel and X Jr. were only coondogs because of their mother? Despite having Nailor in they're pedigree? That makes no sense to me. Thats like saying one dog two generations back in a hounds pedigree has more to do with it than another in the same location.

Do you think all Lipper's sons and daughters were coondogs people? Most of the good Lipper bred hounds were grandsons and granddaughters, or greatgrandsons and daughters, Just like Nailor.

I realize Nailor dogs had there faults here and there but I'd take one just like him today in a second.

C'mon guys I never posted a bad word about different bloodlines on here, and don't plan to start. People put alot of work into their dogs and they mean an awful lot to them. Put yourself in a popular dogs owners shoes and read about someone bashing your dogs pups on the internet, That wouldn't be much fun. Or just dream about being fortunate enough to own one worth talking about.

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You are right and I will be the first to apologize to you. I would get bent out of shape to if I were Jess Dickerson or you or anyone that promotes these hounds. I wish the best of luck with them. That is what makes the walker breed great. Different lines for different people.

1st, 2nd and 3rd impressions last a long time, and that is not fair to judge the whole picture on. So, once again, I apologize for posting my opinion on them. I should have listened to my mama, if you ain't got nothing good to say then don't say nothing at all.

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