Registered: Mar 2007
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some of you guy are liven in the other world,, there are only a hand full of dogs who tree the first time out every year , so yes you have to teach a dog to tree. 90% of dog have to learn this if by you or other dogs. that is the truth i know it and you know it. . now whether she should breed the dog is a long time off at this point. i think 50% of all dogs breed should have been cull'd at some point it is the only true way to stop the crap we see and hear abot with this sport. but if he and she like the dog and want to spend the time with it let them keep going and let us just give them the right thing's to try and help and when they think they have spent the last night with it let them make the right call. keep in mind red dogs and black dogs are still 75 yr's behind you walker dog breeding .they are not breed just to tree they tend to like to know what it is there running up a tree.

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Fella go back and read the first post on this thread. That dog wasn't out for the first time. She said the dog was two years old and had been hunted since last fall. And if you really believe 90% of all dogs have to be taught to tree, I'd like to know what you are hunting so I can stay away from that stuff.

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Fella go back and read the first post on this thread. That dog wasn't out for the first time. She said the dog was two years old and had been hunted since last fall. And if you really believe 90% of all dogs have to be taught to tree, I'd like to know what you are hunting so I can stay away from that stuff.

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Ive got a dog that didnt start until 3 and i have a dog that was born a tree dog no dog is the same only thing you can do is keep working it.

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myself i have the best luck letting the coon get a few good bites on my dogs that seems to flip the switch.

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Ive got a dog that didnt start until 3 and i have a dog that was born a tree dog no dog is the same only thing you can do is keep working it.

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You know, when I first started coon hunting a good bit, I was a very patient person. The more I do it and the less spare time I have, the less I can tolerate a year of useless time spent on a dog that cannot get the job done with plenty of chances. It is your dog and your choice of what you want to do, but don't get upset with folks that are telling what they would do. To be dead honest though, I don't really have the time to be walking around the woods at night looking for a dog that is staying still and not barking. I mean really when you think about it, it is almost comical.

I hope one of two things. The dog doesn't hunt deep, or you have a nice tracking system.

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i dont think it was the dog in my case it was me not having the time to realy go out hunting enough.

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hey
at least she wont wake up an angry landowner at 3 am. LOL

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at least she wont wake up an angry landowner at 3 am. LOL

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Trust Elvis to look on the bright side.

Tell me you didn't laugh when you read Jim's post that I threatened to harvest for a sig line--

The only reason I don't is that he is afraid it will contribute to his unpopularity on the board.

Seriously ,for all the Redboners, if everybody was as dedicated as the Red dog men, it would be something.

The first sure enough top coon dog, and the most foolproof, mistake free dog night after night that I ever hunted with was an old Redbone female.

She was absolutely a check dog, the only one of those rare individuals I ever actually saw. You could not make her bark off, and she would tree coons all around trashy dogs, lying dogs, etc. Couldn't rattle her.

Unfortunately, she was speyed as a young bitch, and never had pups. Some kind of health issue.

She treed coons well into her 13th year.

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Registered: Jul 2003
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If I show a pup a coon or two they better be showing some tree interest or they are subject not to have a long tenure at my place. I told a story on this thread of a gyp that made it after being hunted several months and not treeing. That would not have happened today. I would have started over with a better prospect today.

Try walking to where the gyp knows your on your way to the tree. Let's say 50 yards of the tree she is on. Turn your light out and set down for ten or twenty minutes to see if she starts barking.

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Registered: Jun 2004
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Alrighty.. let me clarify..

She was started on caged coon and drags last fall. This past spring he drug the cage and hung it up for her, did really well with that. He only got to take her out maybe 5 times before summer. Didn't hunt anything the entire summer for personal reasons, just started again two weeks ago. So really for all practical purposes this dog may be two, but is just now getting worked with the way she should.

Can't figure out how to put the video on here, but she is very loud and aggresive with a caged coon in the tree. But for some reason when it's just the coon, she will stay on the tree, but be quiet.

Coarse part of it is probably our fault, we had problems with neighbors complaining about the dogs and taught them not to bark in the kennel. Now we're trying to get her TO bark, that has to be confusing.

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Registered: Oct 2007
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I look at it like expecting a first grader to go to school on their first day and be expected to pass the college exam. Mine played that game at 11 months. I'm not patient and came out of it fast but now he's 4 and my best dog. Turn him loose on a moonlight night. He barks just enough to let you know where he's at but not enough to get every coon running in a 5 mile radius. Let's out a long bawl locate and rolls it over to a all night hard chop. Only gets better and never has been any reverse. Some are worth a little patience.

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