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TODD:

CAN YOU USE LIGHTED COLLARS ON YOUR DOG WHILE YOUR HUNTING?



ALSO, WILL THEIR BE DEADLINES FOR THE HUNT TEST? LIKE SAY ANYONE WANTING TO ENTER A HUNT TEST HAS TO BE AT THE CLUB BY 8:30.

WHAT ABOUT DEADLINES TO TURN THE HUNT TEST IN?

DOES SOMEONE HAVE TO STAY AT THE CLUB TO COLLECT THE HUNT TESTS TO BE MAILED TO UKC?

COULD A GROUP OF PEOPLE GO OUT, HAVE AN INSPECTOR, HAVE ONE PERSON HUNT ONE DOG AND WHEN IT'S TIME IS UP, HUNT ANOTHER DOG, AND SO ON? SO THE SAME INSPECTOR COULD INSPECT MORE THAN ONE DOG PER NIGHT IF HE HAD THE TIME TO DO IT?

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Yes, lighted collars are permitted. Same as with nite hunts.

Unlike nite hunts, entry deadlines will not be "firm". That's because you are not competing against anyone. I don't think there will be a return deadline? You do need to get the evaluation back to the club in time to turn it in for credit.

The club does collect the evaluations and fills out the hunt test report. Both passes and fails are recorded on the report. An officer of the club must sign the hunt test report and send it in with a recording fee of $3 per dog.

Yes, an inspector goes out with his group to be inspected. The size of which is going to depend on the number of dogs there to be inspected and how many inspectors the club has on hand. I would say doing two dogs a night per inspector is about right. I did three the other night and it was a long night. Well...for a light weight like me it was long, lol.

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THANKS TODD FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. THEY KIND OF APPOINTED ME THE INFORMATION COLLECTOR SINCE I'M ON HERE ALL THE TIME, AND I WANTED TO BE AS PREPARED AS I COULD WHEN QUESTION TIME COMES!!!


HAVE YA'LL THOUGHT ABOUT TYING THIS INTO THE PERFORMANCE PROGRAM? BECAUSE THIS MORE SO THAN A NITE HUNT IS A TEST OF A DOG'S PERFORMANCE.


IS THERE A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF HUNT TESTS THAT COULD BE HELD WITHIN ONE 30 DAY (MONTH) PERIOD?

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Uh oh, did she just type that?

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Originally posted by Christy

HAVE YA'LL THOUGHT ABOUT TYING THIS INTO THE PERFORMANCE PROGRAM? BECAUSE THIS MORE SO THAN A NITE HUNT IS A TEST OF A DOG'S PERFORMANCE.

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Just wait, she didn't mean that (I hope lol) It's not more of a test. It's an activity designed for different folks, that's all.

No, the hunt test format will not be going into performance fund.

The maximum number of times a dog could compete in 30 nights is 30 times, once per night.

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COME ON TODD....I'M JUST BASING MY QUESTIONS ON WHAT I'M READING....I DIDNT WORD MY SENTENCE LIKE THAT TO OFFEND ANYONE....IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IT LOOK:

THIS IS THE VERY FIRST LINE ON THE HUNT TEST WEB PAGE:

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The idea of “testing” dogs against a basic performance standard is not a new one.

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What is the purpose of this hunt test? Do you earn any kind of championship points for this hunt?

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To see if a dog can stike, track, tree a coon on its own!

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? #1 From what i read there is no time out so if you turn out at 8:00pm it is over at 9:00pm + 15min if the dog is still runing a track and has not yet treed
? #2 Can one handler inter more than one dog per night

We have a meeting SAT. and i know these ? will come up

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Not sure I understand your first question but yes, you just need to hunt the dog one hour. The only time you give him the additional 15 minutes is if he's opening on track and hasn't satisfied his pass requirements yet. If you do find it necessary to move, just make a note of how much time you've used and start it up again when you get to your new spot.

Yes, a handler could enter more than one dog on any given night.

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To see if a dog can stike, track, tree a coon on its own!

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Yes, a handler could enter more than one dog on any given night.

This would make it hard on a club to get the amount of Inspectors it needs to give up there nite of hunting for other's I would do this. for my Club, You would need a lot of suport from members. A LOT!!!!!!!!!

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feeder buckets arent going to be allowed in this are they?

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What do U'ALL think a fair price for a club to ask for this event UKC needs 3$
I think 5$ would be fair
Or maybe 3$ for club and 5$ to the inspectors for each dog he inspects

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Id recomend Ten dollars, per hunt test, Three to UKC, and Seven dollars to the club.

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feeder buckets arent going to be allowed in this are they?

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No, anyone can inspect provided they understand and agree to the following:

1. They have not bred, trained or housed the dog they are inspecting and are not a regular hunting partner of the owner or handler of the dog.

2. They have coonhunted for at least five years, are familiar with and can identify the Standard Requirements and Standard Faults.

3. That the evaluation they sign off on is accurate and any misrepresentation is punishable by UKC sanctions.

4. An inspector cannot participate as an owner or handler on the night they are serving as an inspector.

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I have been wondering about something and since it has not been asked I guess I will be the dummy and ask it. What I "envisioned" was the club pairing 2 guys who are not regular hunting partners together and one judging the others dog for the first hour then the other way around for the next hour. Permissable? Too liberal? I mean lets face it most that show up will want to hunt a dog. I cant see a dozen or more guys showing up just wanting to judge. Thoughts?

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I have been pondering this since I read about it in bloodlines. I think the concept is great for people like me that only comp hunt a few times a yr in the local club. But I have grave questions that until I hear Todd/UKC respond my gut says the buddy system will take it over.
My big question is this
1) Will those on the Barred and Suspened List be allowed to put a dog in these hunt test?
2) Will the club with UKC approval be able to reject a hound that is entered by one of these people or their family or buddies?
3) If a hound has been scartched for fighting be allowed to use the HuntTest as a way to gain a title so that owner can sale pups?

I have a few more but not as important as I think these are. But I do think the concept is great but for sure some details need to be worked out by UKC that covers these points.
Just my 2 cents worth

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If you are barred or suspended you are restricted from having a dog you own involved in any licvenced, sacntioned event. You are also not allowed to participate, in the same said events.

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This hunt testing is similar in some respects to how a dog is judged for single registration. If I was to judge a dog to be registered as one of the breeds, he'd not only have to look the part, he'd have to perform in the woods and show me he or she can track and tree a coon or two. If those requirements can allow a grade dog to be registered as one of the recognized breeds, then that same criteria would seem to be adequate to allow a "pass" for any breed of coon hound. The hardest part is finding someone to judge...maybe get a representative for each of the breeds...or two...or three and have them judge their own breeds. I for one, wouldn't want a hound registered as part of my breed if he or she can't track and tree a coon. It's not that complicated from my point of view...the most difficult thing is to find the people willing to judge the dog honestly. The rule also isn't that complicated...it says the dog has to show that it can track and tree a coon alone. Who cares about style...there's lots of different styles of dogs that can tree a coon and as long as it passes the basic requirement...then it would be a pass. When we let the opinions of different people determine what's acceptable as a coon dog or not...then you've got trouble because one man's treasure is another man's trash. The rule says track and tree a coon alone and regardless of the style, if it makes the owner happy...good enough.

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