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Im talking late 50s early 60s P S gonna hunt with Aaron P. in the next few days Tony...Blueticks since 1954

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I drew out with Jim Combs at the OK state hunt. He said Warren was in a nursing home somewhere. I forget where he said it was.

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Im talking late 50s early 60s P S gonna hunt with Aaron P. in the next few days Tony...Blueticks since 1954

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Well Im going to only say a few words on this. My uncle is 75 and he knows and hunted with Warren. He has talked to me numerous times about hunting with the ole timmers! I really enjoy this. But he did say Warren was a very well liked man and he did raise some nice dogs. But he told me that Warren bought alot of his stud dogs. But he did go on to say he had Rambler and Sage to metion a few. He said Rambler was one of the finest blue dogs he ever hunted with. Duane my uncles hounds and my Annie will show Sage aways back after several generations. He always liked the Sage blood. Not to take anything away from Warren! He has helped the breed alot.

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The Man was one of the top bluetick breeders for along time or should we say a lifetime.The first time I went coonhunting in 1961 with my uncle and old Blue,He was very young just under a year old and he treed a coon by himself.Blue was out of SMOKY RIVER BLUE EVA and SOLLYS TREY both blues were bought from Warren by Walter Solly of Attica NY in the 1950's.I can still remember the day my uncle and I went to see old Walt ,I still can see old Trey and Eva ,I have been hooked for ever on Smoky River bred hounds.In 1971 I bought a young female that went back to Trey and Eva,NITE CH CAN DEW BLUE LADY She treed her first coon my herself before a year old.I had a female from Goose Creek Tack and Hills Sally,I bought a female from Warren out of SMOKY RIVER CRYIN JACK AND SMOKY RIVER MAYBELL II and now have one from Andersons BL Jake and Mayberry blue Nippet,they all treed coon by themselfs before a year old.

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Larry, glad the female is working out for you. All of the pups that I know of are progressing at an above average rate. My male is making a nice hound, goes hunting and making a real tree dog. He has a good mouth that carries well. Not running much track yet, but will be on the tree.

I recieved the information from you, and hope to make a cross soon. I'll keep you posted. Thanks.

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IS THE WORD FOR MR. HASLOUER HE NO DOUBT TOOK BAD RAPS THE SAME AS ANY OTHER BLUETICK BREEDER AND HE DID STAND THE TEST OF TIME AND COME OUT WELL AT THE END. HE MIXED THEM UP LIKE ALL OTHER BREEDERS UNTIL HE GOT WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT RECIPE. I SAY HE WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE BLUETICK BREED AND HE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY WHAT HE NEEDED TO IMPROVE ON WHAT HE HAD. HE WAS NO DOUBT A BREEDER AND IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO THE BREED THAT HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIM THE BLUETICK BREED WOULD HAVE MISSED OUT ON SOME THINGS THAT HIS KNOWLEDGE BROUGHT FORTH AND IMPROVED THE BLUETICK HOUND...........

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Jesse,

In the game of coonhunting, like a lot of other things, there are those who somehow duck the radar.

I guarantee you Voyd has forgot more about coonhunting and hounds than you and I put togather have ever known.

Its not my place to give you names of hounds he has worked with, that's up to him, but it would blow your mind.

This ain't his first rodeo.

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Warren was certainly a breeder of bluetick hounds. He was first and always a hard nosed coon hunter. Warren loved to hunt and done lots of it. The one thing I noticed about Warren's breeding program was: the name on the females he had started with Grand Nite Champion. Not all of them but lots of them.

You hear of crap like mixing in a little walker blood along the way. If this did happen, I bet it was one fine walker dog. However, if you get a super fine hound and beat a few of those non beatable hounds, it won't be long until rumor has your dog with major holes in it. Normally the first thing you hear is the dog is rough.

Warren sure increased the ability of the blue dog and so on.

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He beleived in what he was breeding and it showed in the hunts.. Hunted lots of times with Warrens dogs and when you drew them, be on your toes because he didn't bring junk to hunts.


i'm a walker and English man so take it from there.

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I don't consider him the founder of a particular bloodline, at least not in the sense of Dave Dean or the Uchtmans.

Smoky River is a kennel name more than a bloodline.

This doesn't take away from the fact that he raised a lot of fine hounds and stood some good ones at stud.

It just depends on what you define a breeder as.

Warren typically bought his studs based on their ability, their breeding and lineage notwithstanding.

Nothing wrong with that, but it isn't the same thing as a man starting with a particular line and staying with it for decades.

Both methods produce good hounds, it all depends on what you want to do.

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When the name Smokey River is mentioned the first thing that comes to my mind is Warren. Over the years I have ran into hunters that have quit. They say," is Warren still breeding those Smokey River Hounds". From this, I place him right beside Mr. Dean and others.

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When the name Smokey River is mentioned the first thing that comes to my mind is Warren. Over the years I have ran into hunters that have quit. They say," is Warren still breeding those Smokey River Hounds". From this, I place him right beside Mr. Dean and others.

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I guess from that perspective Dave Dean has kept his genetic pool true to a certain line. Most others have hammer, uchtman, Smk. Riv., jet, vaughn, mad dog, dancer the list goes on.

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imo, anyone who is responsible for making a well thought out cross is a breader. im sure warren was responsible for a bunch of matings, so i say w/o a doubt he is a breeder. did he breed a pure starin of dogs, i dotn know? i do know a ton of winners carry the name smokey river with both of their parents carrying the name smokey river. it is also my understanding that alot of the dogs warren bought were off crosses he made, no different than farming out a bunch of dogs to local hunters/freinds and getting the good ones back.

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