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John Carroll
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Here's a mystery dog.

I bet Voyd can tell us which dog is chewing on the coon just from what little shows.

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Double Springs Echo, the other dog is Star which was out of Echo and Polly.

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John, did you shoot this coon or did Echo catch it.

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there isn't much better than looking at bluetick pics, besides looking at blueticks under the coon.

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John, did you shoot this coon or did Echo catch it.


He caught it.

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That Echo dog could mortally fly.

I wish I had bred Belle to him once.

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I think Echo could catch more coon on the ground in one month than what most hunters will see caught in their life time, he had a knack for it, oh and the old rascal was a wide open track dog with more mouth given than I like.

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John, I had a little female named Linda that was pretty decent that was from Echo and a female that had some of the same breeding as your bell female, the cross from Bell and Echo should have been a goodun.


Linda could catch a coon if he didn't run to far or fast.

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I got unexpectedly busy, and I'm having trouble figuring this scanner out.

I did get one more--Ranger V.

This dog should have been bred to more.





THIS PICTURE REALLY DOESNT DO JUSTICE TO OLD 5 , HE HAD LOOKS TO BURN AND WAS A REPRODUCER TO SOME OF THE MOST NATURAL PUPS I HAVE EVER SEEN .

I BRED A GR.NT. FEMALE OFF HAWK TO HIM TWICE AND SHE NEVER TOOK .

HE COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREAT REPRODUCERS IF HE WOULD HAVE GOT THE FEMALES . THAT IS JUST MY OPINION

THANKS FOR POSTING THE PICTURE , BRINGS BACK SOME GOOD MEMORIES , I GOT TO SEE OLD 5 TREE A FEW COON BACK IN HIS DAY , HE WAS A NICE HOUND .

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When Belle was treed by herself, this was the way she would be treed most of the time.





you can sure see belle in Docs treeing style

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This dog was a youngster I bought from Mr. Bob Gaither.

I got mad at him one night and let a buddy have him. That was probably the biggest mistake i ever made in the hound business.

He was as fast a hound as I ever put a collar on, and had a good mouth.

His mother was Bob's old Pearl bitch, and his sire was Gr. Nt. Ch. Craig's rocky.

I called him Choctaw, Choc for short.

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you can sure see belle in Docs treeing style


I thought you'd notice that, Mike.

I hope he makes as good a hound as she was.

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Ranger VI was one good looking sucker. That's what a hound ought to look like. I also really liked old Newton. I still hate it that my old female didn't stick when I bred her to him. He sure threw some nice dogs, and I think that there would have been some good ones out of that cross.

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Ranger VI was one good looking sucker. That's what a hound ought to look like. I also really liked old Newton. I still hate it that my old female didn't stick when I bred her to him. He sure threw some nice dogs, and I think that there would have been some good ones out of that cross.


ranger VI is the hound I measure others by.

He made every coon look easy. It didn't seem like he ever had to labor on a coon. He treed them so slick it was almost no challenge, or so it seemed.

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This is a dog I called Bojack. He was Owl Creek Moose and Arkie bred.

He was a hard hunting dog, only about medium speed, but a real accurate tree dog. he had a big mouth and maybe the prettiest locate I ever heard on a hound.

He was my first good hound, and I sold him when an older guy with lots of money offered me more than I could turn down for him.

I sure missed that dog. I'd love to hear him tree another one.

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This was old Belle and a Walker dog named Rolex.

They got after this coon on a nasty February night and ran him about a mile.

He ran in a pond and they brought him out of there.

I got there in time to take this picture of them coming out of the water with him.

He was a big boar coon and put up considerable fight.

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This old gentleman forgot more about Blue dogs than most of us will ever learn.

Bob gaither is holding his Joe dog.

I bred old Belle to him, but she didn't stick. I always hated that. he was an athletic, quick actioned hound.

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This was a Walker dog I called Buck.

He was out of Pac man and a Woodscreek Loose bruce female.

He was a natural, a track driving sucker, and a one bark tree dog.

He was also the trashiest dog I had ever messed with up to that time.

I broke him off trash, but he got ill and had to take early retirement. I think I made him mean by not handling him right. i was used to dogs that needed tightening up on the tree, and was just a kid really. I didn't know how to handle that caliber of tree dog at that time.

I wish I could bring Buck back and have another chance with him.

I think things would be different.

A prime example of a top young prospect ruined by an ignorant hunter.

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This is Belle and a couple of Walkers that were Rattle Shaker bred.

They went back to Crowding Billy and Finley River Dan on the bottom side.

This was a hard running coon that didn't run quite hard enough in some coal pits down by Sallisaw, Oklahoma.

They were a bloody mess, and covered in that old black sludge when the old coon finally gave up the ghost.

I can recall that race like it was yesterday...

I hope this thread isn't getting tiresome to anybody. I finaly got a scanner and am going over some old pictures.

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TIRESOME!?!

Are you kidding? Keep them coming they are Wonderful!
HappyScanning! Heather

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The Walker dog in the picture with belle here was a dog that my cousin owned out of House's Lawyer.

He was a good son of a gun, and could smoke a coon track. He also had about as pretty a long, keen bawl mouth as was ever hung on a Walker hound.

As you can see, he wasn't hard to look at either.

His name was Ruler--my cousin called him his "measuring stick."

We had a lot of fun hunting these two dogs together. Belle would tree a coon he couldn't open on in bad nights, but he was faster than her on a red hot coon. I never saw him outrun on his kind of coon track. He was a cutting, slashing track dog.

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What did you think of them shaker breed dogs. I raised shacker tell he was about 15 months old. just curios thanks

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Ranger VI is colored,and built the way i like um.Wish he was still around.

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I liked them, Wade.

Every one of them I hunted with were above average track dogs.

They weren't as tree minded as most Walker dogs are now--they wanted to have a coon before they would sit down.

They had good mouths too.

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Ranger VI is colored,and built the way i like um.Wish he was still around.


You and me both, Roger.

He was for real, as good as I ever saw.

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