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bearman
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FCh GrWCh GrCh Chisum-Trail High Stakes Casey is sired by Susan Lloyd' Patch dog, who has Lead in his 4th gen, and her mother is a sister to the Boone dog, above. She was the only living pup in her litter.

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And this is Lead himself!!


Jondle's dog below is Judge, from the cross of Mr Big and Taz. Slate Creek's Jimbo dog is a litter brother. There's another brother in Utah who is doing real well, and the only living female from this litter was just recently sent to New Mexico. A third male from this litter went to Alberta Canada, but don't know anything about him.

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Lead's 5-gen pedigree:

***************PR Deer Creek Drum
************PR Deer Creek Bawler
***************PR Jones Peggy Sue Blue
**********GrNCh PR Williams Blue Jack
***************Ch PR Vaughns Blue Jack
************PR Jones Blue Bell
***************PR Blue Kate
*******PR Castleberrys Blue Joe
***************McKinneys Blue Judge
************NCh Blue Judge Of The Ozarks
***************PR McKinneys Blue Sue
**********PR Castleberrys Blue
***************NCh PR Sandy Creek Warrior
************PR Sandy Creek Ginger
***************PR Sandy Creek Dollie Gay
***PR Watson's Blue Blue (sire)
***************NCh PR Sandy Creek Warrior
************PR Blue Creek Chief
***************PR Sandy Creek Doubledark Kate
**********PR Jarretts Bawling Jubilee
***************PR Little River Smokey
************PR Jarretts Blue Queen
***************PR Little River Dinah
*******PR Blue Lisa
***************PR Bills JV Bugle Boy
************PR Cascade Blue Drift
***************PR Pee Dee River Blue Meuse
**********PR Johnsons Blue Missie
***************PR Dunns Blue Victor
************PR Southern Blue Queen
***************PR Cascade Jitter Bug II

NCh GrCh PR Rankin's Blue Lead

***************PR Vaughns Bawler
************PR Vaughns Blue Wheeler
***************PR Blue Fannie
**********PR Vaughns Blue Mack
***************PR Vaughns Blue Thunder
************PR Vaughns Blue Daisy
***************PR Vaughns Blue Nell
*******PR Watsons Blue Mack
***************PR Vaughns Blue Buck
************PR Vaughns Blue Bill
***************PR Vaughn Blue Lula
**********PR Watsons Blue Bess
***************Ch PR Vaughns Blue Jack
************PR Vaughns Blue Josie
***************PR Vaughns Blue Lula Bell
***PR Watson's Blue Rose (dam)
***************NCh PR Sandy Creek Warrior
************PR Neislers Major
***************PR Aletas Blue Violet
**********PR Adams Rattling Drum
***************NCh PR Smokey River Blue Lead
************PR Heards Blue Dawn
***************PR Ozark Blue Violet
*******PR Stevens Cherokee Connie
***************PR Jakes Ozark Blue Jim
************Ch PR Perrins Midnight
***************PR Blue Creek Blue Sally
**********PR Hugueleys Bonnie Bl. Bell
***************PR Shatterlys Bl. Rambler
************PR Blue Beth
***************PR Sandy Creek Candy

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That's more like it little fella , happy New Years !

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Lead Blood

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Ok Tiny has made it home. lol.....







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Chawn or TinyIs that the female I think it is? I still have her dad if it is and her aunt and uncle. Patch has Lead in his 4th and Steel and Tempi have lead in the 3rd generation.

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HOWDY LONG EARS ! THAT IS HER. SHE IS COMING ON STRONGER EVERYTIME.... HEY HAPPY NEW YEARS.

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mr perry ross

mr perry ross on here knows a fellow that owns a female off lead 11 i think they have raised a litter of pups off of i will check and see.

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Lead?

Was Lead originally owned or bred by a guy named Hauser? Hey, J. Vaught when we go'n hunt'n? Hello Big Ears! Happy New Year to all, hope you did'nt have to work thru it like I did, and I'm still at work.

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TROY

TROY RANKIN WHO LIVED UP THE HIGHWAY A WAYS ORIGNALLY OWNED LEAD. MY DAD HUNTED WITH HIM ON A COUPLE OF COMP HUNTS, BUT I WAS TO YOUNG TO BE DOING ANY HUNTING.

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GRNTCH'PR'BOWIE RIVER BO ...............................................
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"JESUS" SAID WE CANNOT COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH HIM"HE IS AWESOME,HES MERCIFUL,HES THE KING ABOVE ALL KINGS" DO YOU KNOW HIM "
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Bearman, I am so glad she is doing well. I love the pictures of her you send me. She is looking great too. I might like to get a pup from you so I can get some of that blood back here myself some day. Keep me in mind. Patch is still doing well and having nice pups. Steel has settled down and also still does a really nice job, now that he dose not have to hunt in competition. Tempi is just Tempi, I do have a pup out of her and Patch doing a really nice job. I think she will be the last one from Tempi though. Happy New year to you guys too. and Happy hunting.

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Hi Susan. Casey's quite the character!! We're still hoping she'll decide to hunt at night so we can try to put a hunt title on her. She can definitely get it done during the day. (Hmmm, maybe we should do a daytime hunt test with her.)
You've always been at the top of the list for a pup from Casey if you want one, since we weren't able to send you a littermate. We were thinking of breeding her this year but just haven't been able to find the right stud.

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Re: Lead?

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Originally posted by Slate Creek
Was Lead originally owned or bred by a guy named Hauser? Hey, J. Vaught when we go'n hunt'n? Hello Big Ears! Happy New Year to all, hope you did'nt have to work thru it like I did, and I'm still at work.


I don't know for sure but I think maybe Johnny Watson was Lead's breeder???

Lead was never the main focus of our breeding program. I started out linebreeding on Loud, and obviously you don't get Loud without Lead.
Over the years we've sent a lot of letters, emails, and made a lot of phone calls but we ran into a lot of dead ends with breeders not wanting to ship pups or semen, which severely limited what we had to work with.
We were able to buy several female pups with Loud/Lead breeding that we had hoped to breed to Rebel, but they were never anywhere near as good as what was born and raised in our own kennel. Taz was the only one we raised pups from. It was a mistake we've learned from, but now it's too late to get any of that blood back.
There's no fast, easy or cheap way to drive across the country, and nobody with the blood we were looking for was interested in breeding to a stud in California, so Rebel was only bred to females we owned. (He's sterile now.)

I'm guessing there must still be a few dogs out there somewhere bred close on Lead, but if they don't post on coonhound boards or advertise in magazines or blue books, we don't have much chance of finding them. It's too bad his value wasn't realized sooner, before the pedigrees became so watered down.

Chor's Blue Wheatie, Uchtman's Blue Cheater and Wilmoth's Chelsea Blue were daughter's of Lead that you still see in pedigrees. Dawson's Wolf Creek Judge and Leatherman's Blue Ring are sons that still show up too. Uchtman's White River Chief is being advertised at stud now and he's got Lead at least twice in a 5 gen ped (I don't know all of his ped). Uchtman's So Blue Fly and So Blue Speed were 1/2 siblings sired by Hornet, which puts Lead on top and bottom.

Anyone know what ever happened to Glenn Johnson's Deep South line? They were heavy Lead bred and I'd sure like to find some of them still close in a pedigree.
Just recently saw where Kuszmaul's Blue Thunder was a great grandson of Lead. Any littermates or offspring still around?

It would be awesome if this thread helped find some of those dogs that must be out there. Hard to concentrate this blood in pedigrees if people who know about it don't work together.

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I have a Lead bred female, hoping to get a litter of pups this summer,

--------------------GRCHGRNCHPR Rankins Blue Lead II
------------PR Rankins Blue Lead III
--------------------PR Bryants Blue Sis
-------PR Rankins Blue Lead IV
--------------------NTCH PR Mays Blue Blaze
------------PR Rankins Blue Pepper
--------------------PR Rankins Blue Dixie

Lizzy

--------------------PR Vaughns Blue Mack III
------------NTCHPR Rogers Little Mack
--------------------PR Blue Mae
-------PR Simmons Dry Creek Gin
--------------------PR Rankins Blue Boss
------------PR Johnsons Dry Creek Ginger
--------------------PR Rankins Blue Dixie


She is a big Dark Blue female about 90 lbs Bawl mouth all the way. We owned a full sister to Uchtmans Cheater out of Lead and Clipper she was one of the best coonhounds we ever owned.

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bluefrost316

do you have a pic of this female,how old of a female is she,if you raise some pups might want to get one from you
Thanks
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Going to try to get some pics today, she is 7 years old. If I get pups i will let you know have half a dozen people interested allready.

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I owned the blaze dog and pepper female

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Here is Lizzie


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