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That's the problem with your view point. When it comes to Obama the burden of Prof falls to us. However that is not how it works when it comes to anyone else. The burden of Prof for a simple D.L. was on me. I don't see your sense of fairness in this.

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Pretty sure it falls on the Supreme Court. More specifically Chief Justice Roberts. As I stated above, I believe Obama would have had to prove his citizenship to him before he was swore in.

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I mean No Disrespect to you but
We have no way of knowing "IF" that ever took place and we should have the right to know.

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jess,
you just make the assumption that Obama has not validated to your satisfaction, but you and I are not privy to such documentation, I have never seen the birth certificate of any president or elected offical personally, but am sure that the powers that be on both sides of the fence have validated-verified this or it would have been dealt with long before now... again,if he does not meet the criteria he should not be president, but that has not been proven, but would have ben if could have been long before now...

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you just make the assumption that Obama has not validated to your satisfaction, but you and I are not privy to such documentation, I have never seen the birth certificate of any president or elected offical personally, but am sure that the powers that be on both sides of the fence have validated-verified this or it would have been dealt with long before now... again,if he does not meet the criteria he should not be president, but that has not been proven, but would have ben if could have been long before now...

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The whole thing has never been in question before.
"I say Trust But Verify"
You seem to be on the side of trusting of things when it comes to Obama but not very demanding on the verify side of things.

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jess,
last time, should have to verify period-meet the criteria or not serve, trust that the powers that be have vetted-verified-validated that Obama is qualified to serve or he would have never made it into the position to be the candidate and than elected... would have been been handled long before now, sure the demos as well as the gop did all of the research that can be done on this issue... all finished with this as debating-discussing is mute, a done deal....

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jess,
last time, should have to verify period-meet the criteria or not serve, trust that the powers that be have vetted-verified-validated that Obama is qualified to serve or he would have never made it into the position to be the candidate and than elected... would have been been handled long before now, sure the demos as well as the gop did all of the research that can be done on this issue... all finished with this as debating-discussing is mute, a done deal....

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To become president you have to prove citizenry. I think that whenever there is doubt, I say man up and prove yourself. That is how I live and I would like to think our president would do the same.

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To become president you have to prove citizenry. I think that whenever there is doubt, I say man up and prove yourself. That is how I live and I would like to think our president would do the same.

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I appreciate your conversation

Thanks for the Friendly disagreement

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last time, should have to verify period-meet the criteria or not serve, trust that the powers that be have vetted-verified-validated that Obama is qualified to serve or he would have never made it into the position to be the candidate and than elected... would have been been handled long before now, sure the demos as well as the gop did all of the research that can be done on this issue... all finished with this as debating-discussing is mute, a done deal....

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jess,
agree that the citizen is at the bottom of the heap and that powerholders are more in tune to the other powerholders than us, but that the power is the ultimate goal and they will do whatever it takes to get it or prevent it....

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I thought I was done.

Jess,
What does a Republican Chief Justice Roberts, who is EXTREMELY conservative, who has a NEVERENDING seat as Chief Justice gain out of having a black Dem President. Don't you think that he and "his" supreme court would have more to gain having a republican President in the white house? I guarantee you a republican President wouldn't have nominated a Liberal judge to fill that vacant seat in the supreme court like Obama did with Sotomayor.

I understand what you are saying that the powerful take care of the powerful. But if Roberts had the opportunity to not swear in Obama he would have taken it for the reasons I have stated.

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Still a lot of assumptions in what you are saying. Neither of us has any clue what Roberts would or would not do in a back room meeting with top Dem's or Rep's

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I feel sorry for you that you have so little faith in your fellow Christian Republican Chief Roberts. Although, I guess look at some of the other conservative Christian senators and congressman lately. Pretty sad really.

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It's SAD that you would attempt to be snide after posting in a gentleman's fashion in the beginning, I had thought better of you.

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Jess,
I was not trying to be snide, sorry if it came off that way. Just trying to make my point. Sorry if I offended you. I will leave this thread alone b/c it is obvious that I am not going to change your mind. And that is what is fine and good about this country. That we can disagree about this BS and still go make a drop with the blue dogs. Have a great evening.

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You are mistaken on one thing, I have never said that I had a opinion about Obama's being a citizen I just think that he should man up and dispel any questions.

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I never claimed that Obama should show me anything personally, I do feel that he has the responsibility as the president to ease the doubts of millions of people across the nation whenever and however he can. Something a simple as producing a legitimate birth certificate and a large question go's away,

Why Not just do it ?

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always the same with you, avoid-deflect, etc...

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I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but your post just made me think of something.

A very well known republican Chief Justice Roberts was the one that swore in Obama as President. You don't think that as the leader of the Judiciary Branch he wouldn't have made sure that Obama was a US Citizen before he swore him in. I mean it would have been in the Chief Justice's (remember, republican) best interest to keep him out of the White House.

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