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Brandon did you hunt with Doc before you bred your female? How did he do? Just curious about hunting/tree style mouth, etc. Have not heard much about him or his litter mates in a while.

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No Mr. Roger I havent had a chance to go with Doc. When Salley came in heat i decided at the last minute to make this cross. We bred her on or around the 14th day of her heat cycle so wasnt much time for hunting and not to mention he is an 8 hr. drive away. I have seen a few small clips of Doc treeing and from what i see he has a hard Bawl chop on tree similar to old lipper. From what i have been told he is an independent dog that goes as far as he needs to go to find a coon. A good loud lipper mouth and looks to go with it. I have been told his litter mates are doing very well. You will have to ask Mr Tom a little more about the littermates, he has one that lives close to him he is keeping up with. I have met with Mr. tom twice and talk to him alot over the phone. He is a good guy and will tell you the truth on the dog. just give him a call.

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puppies

Well my female was an escape artist and got herself bred thankful to our male. We wasn't wanting puppies quite so soon with her. Wanted to get her going a lil more before this but things happen. She had her pups during g a big storm Thursday. Had five gorgeous lil pups 3 males and 2 females all blanket back. Going to look like there daddy jman. Gotta say him and allie throw some pretty babies. Will post some pics soon as the mom calms down a bit.

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Buzz's Ragin Rock






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doc x salley pups

pups are looking good
Lipper's screamin Jet

Lipper's crooked lawman


Mr. Tom's pups Glock & Loxie

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Rock finally got his 1st place win on the weekend. If you like a big hound with a big mouth come check him out. He's about a 70 lb muscled up hound.


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WAY TO GO KEVIN!!!!!! I KNEW HE'D GETTER DONE!!!!!!!

You should really get some pups on the ground out of him, you never know how long they will be around.


Congrats Doug

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I wondered the same thing

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So before we go talking about the "Litter of Impact's" first litter, what has the "Litter of Impact" accomplished so far besides breeding a female? Any Nite Champions? Grand Nites? PKC Champs? Have any of them won any big hunts or placed? Just curious. That litter has been really hyped up since way before they were born and now we are talking about their offspring. They should be close to two years old by now and it seems like a key step in dog promotion has been skipped.......................... the step called winning hunts. But it could be that they have been doing a lot of winning and I just have not heard about it.

I enjoyed reading about this litter and am wondering how they are making out in the hunts or if they are even being hunted in any big hunts.

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Lavell,

I enjoy looking at this topic and the pictures. When is cat season and how could a fellow make a hunt with you. We talked a little sometimes back, but I really would like to talk with you. You can e-mail me @ basco.e@pg.com and we can talk some.

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Re: I wondered the same thing

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I enjoyed reading about this litter and am wondering how they are making out in the hunts or if they are even being hunted in any big hunts.


Guys The Litter of Impact is really doing quite well. They are 14 mos.
old and have been treeing coons on their own for some time.
One female show ch is an independent cold nosed coon treeing
machine. One female entered in 1 UKC hunt and won a first place.
Doc is doing an outstanding job in the woods and the stud pen.
Thanks ...
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Re: Re: I wondered the same thing

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Guys The Litter of Impact is really doing quite well. They are 14 mos.
old and have been treeing coons on their own for some time.
One female show ch is an independent cold nosed coon treeing
machine. One female entered in 1 UKC hunt and won a first place.
Doc is doing an outstanding job in the woods and the stud pen.
Thanks ...
Tom Hopkins
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That's great to hear I imagine having a litter with such high expectations could carry a bit of pressure for them to make coondogs also. I'm glad to hear they are turning out and hope they continue to make you happy.

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Hey Tom I got my first place win on my Extream Insane X female this weak end at the Okla. State hunt. Has any of the X dogs been crossed on Lipper and if so how did they come out?

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LIPPER X JANE...

Hey Okie Dawg... Congrats on your win... I don't know of any direct crosses of Lipper and X dogs ... But I do know of a special
mating of LIPPER and INSANE JANE ... LOOK OUT !!!!!

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Really nice young line bred house female on classified board for sale cheap. Full sister to Paul Camp's Tank dog.

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Re: I wondered the same thing

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I enjoyed reading about this litter and am wondering how they are making out in the hunts or if they are even being hunted in any big hunts.


Guys The Litter of Impact is really doing quite well. They are 14 mos.
old and have been treeing coons on their own for some time.
One female show ch is an independent cold nosed coon treeing
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Doc is doing an outstanding job in the woods and the stud pen.
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Really nice young line bred house female on classified board for sale cheap. Full sister to Paul Camp's Tank dog.


Man, Roger I thought you and Molly would be lighting it up.
She ought to make a good one.

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She will make a nice one Paul and I'm probably making a big mistake but I have a litter coming out of my personal all time favorite female and House's Hardwood Hunter and I just have to make room. Could you imagine this female crossed on one of those young Lipper dogs you guys have? I don't think you could get any tighter Joe House breeding than that anywhere.

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Lippers Screamin Lucille about to load up.
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Paul... You've got her looking good in the pics and in the woods !!

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Re: LIPPER X JANE...

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mating of LIPPER and INSANE JANE ... LOOK OUT !!!!!

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Yea those are going to be some awsome pups. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mine just came in heat. Wish one of those pups were ready. LOL
I won't breed her this timethough. She likes 35 points of being nitech and I would like to grand her before I breed her.

Her sire is Extreme Insane X. Her grand parents on the bottom is Hardwood Big Kahuna and Beards Just Rattling Dixie. The dam got sold off and I don't know were but her name at the time was Miss M. It could had been changed though. I don't know anything about genes but it seams like an Insane Lipper pup would make her a nice stud.

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House Bred half brothers.

Got TANK and CASH together the common traits were abundant.
Coy's got a COONDOG, and quite a selection of house blood.
Enjoyed every minute gonna do it again.

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Those are some really nice looking hounds.

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TANK & CASH

THANKS PAUL I REALLY ENJOYED HAVEING U & BEN UP HERE TANK AND CASH ARE A LOT A LIKE WHEN THEY TREE U GOING TO SEE A COON WE HAD A GREAT HUNT I LOOK FOR THESE TWO DOG TO MAKE THERE MARK IN THE HUNTS AS WELL IN THE STUD PEN LOOKING FORWARDED TO HUNTING WITH TANK AGAIN HE IS A GREAT HOUSE BRED COON DOG THANKS AGAIN PAUL & BEN
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CASH & TANK

Men with all the HOUSE BLOOD out there i'm glad to see you both behind a HOUSE"S REBEL PUP!!!!!! THEY WILL SHOW YOU COONS!!!!!!!!


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Okie Dawg I have a female out of insane X and a daughter to houses lipper she is 11months old and doing great has a lot of tree and is a very smart dog. She is oklahoma with Coy right now and is learning a lot . This is an outstanding cross and I wish the best for the Litter of Legends.

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Okie Dawg I have a female out of insane X and a daughter to houses lipper she is 11months old and doing great has a lot of tree and is a very smart dog. She is oklahoma with Coy right now and is learning a lot . This is an outstanding cross and I wish the best for the Litter of Legends.


bc_coon_runner....I like the breeding on your female...Best of luck
with her. Thinking ahead if all goes well ... She and Hopkins' Insane Lipper from the litter of legends might work really well! Have a good one.
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Tom I had the same thought. I also hope we get several good ones from our Doc and Macy cross, they should have some great mouths, thanks again. I really enjoy hunting with Lucille and Paul she is really nice and should have a great future.

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Okie Dawg I have a female out of insane X and a daughter to houses lipper she is 11months old and doing great has a lot of tree and is a very smart dog. She is oklahoma with Coy right now and is learning a lot . This is an outstanding cross and I wish the best for the Litter of Legends.


This gyp I have is allso a hard tree dog and smart as a whip. I want to breed her to as close to Houses Lipper as I can get. Just haveing a hard time makeing my mind up as to witch pup.
I have been wondering if a pup out of the Jane x lipper cross would be to close. I know very little about genes. The gyp I have is pretty high strung. I hope to hunt with Tom some time and get his opinion of what would be best to breed her to.
She is in heat right now and not able to hunt so maybe by next time I will be ready to do something.

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INSANE LIPPER..

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This gyp I have is allso a hard tree dog and smart as a whip. I want to breed her to as close to Houses Lipper as I can get. Just haveing a hard time makeing my mind up as to witch pup.
I have been wondering if a pup out of the Jane x lipper cross would be to close. I know very little about genes. The gyp I have is pretty high strung. I hope to hunt with Tom some time and get his opinion of what would be best to breed her to.
She is in heat right now and not able to hunt so maybe by next time I will be ready to do something.



Good morning Okie Dawg...I'd love to see your female go sometimes. As far as her crossing well on INSANE LIPPER (Lipper X Insane Jane), in my opinion that would be a super cross. Definitely not to close and would bring a lot to the table. Just my opinion, but I would expect some real deal coondogs to come out of that cross. Have a good one Grady. Oh yea Okie Dawg, did you
get my pm the other day ?
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Hey Kevin you ever raise any pups?

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Hey there Paul! you got Lucille looking good. I have raised a litter on occasion but usually buy pups and raise them up. I probablly would of had more but some sort of tragedy usually came first. I would like to breed the ones I got now before something else happened. It's not the best pup market up here. I really like this House line and want something out of them for the future. I like to have titles on them too but with limited hunts in the area it's hard to do.

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Hey there Paul! you got Lucille looking good. I have raised a litter on occasion but usually buy pups and raise them up. I probablly would of had more but some sort of tragedy usually came first. I would like to breed the ones I got now before something else happened. It's not the best pup market up here. I really like this House line and want something out of them for the future. I like to have titles on them too but with limited hunts in the area it's hard to do.


I think you should. They should be some GOODUNS.

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Re: INSANE LIPPER..

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Good morning Okie Dawg...I'd love to see your female go sometimes. As far as her crossing well on INSANE LIPPER (Lipper X Insane Jane), in my opinion that would be a super cross. Definitely not to close and would bring a lot to the table. Just my opinion, but I would expect some real deal coondogs to come out of that cross. Have a good one Grady. Oh yea Okie Dawg, did you
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Nope Tom I don't have anything in there. Hadn't been on here in a couple days. Tink is out of heat now. Maybe we can get together at the battle of the breeds in Jan. or some time around there. If you are ever going to be up this way let me know and we will go run some.

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LIPPER'S DR. LAW...



LIPPER'S DR. LAW..on the wood...

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LIPPER'S SCREAMIN' LUCILLE


LIPPER.S SCREAMIN' LUCILLE ...on the wood
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LIPPERS DOCTOR LAW

TOM THEM ARE GREAT PICS OF 2 VERY NICE HOUSE BRED TW.

KEEP THEM COMMING.

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Tom those are great looking hounds. I really like the looks of Dr. Law.

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Heres my favorite



Timbers pedigree
************ChGrNtCh Southern Sound Matlock
**********GrNtCh Strawberry Mt Korn
************Collins Timber Ghost Lady
******Strawberry Mt Vini Vidi Vici
************Hound Dogs Super Trooper(Lipper top and bottom)
**********Gallahers Siwash Missty
************Corleys Racing Roxy(Lipper top and Bottom)

GrNtCh Strawberry Mt I'm A Lumberjack (Timber)

************GrNtGrCh Houses Lipper
**********GrCh Rough Rv. Lip's Ozark
************Lippers Kate(Lipper daughter)
******Rough River Jewell
************GrNtCh Nocturnal Nailor(Lipper grandson)
**********GrCh Coal Creek Singing Sally
************River Bottom Sandy(Lipper bred)

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DR. LAW'S GLOCK..

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Tom those are great looking hounds. I really like the looks of Dr. Law.


Thanks Okie Dawg...it has been fun watching these young dogs progress. it's also hard to believe that th LIPPER X INSANE JANE pups are 6 weeks old today. I am gonna make room for my long anticipated HOPKINS'INSANE LIPPER to come to Texas next month. I have always been a one man on one dog guy.I am especially looking forward to this with INSANE LIPPER. So, I am gonna have a super nice pup out of Dr. Law and a Cade and double Lawyer bred female to sell.
DR. LAW'S GLOCK..


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I want an invitation to watch that Insane Lipper go threw the woods some night. It would be well worth the drive. I have to see how they turn out. They are sure a pretty litter but that isn't going to be the half of it if they do what I think they will. To me that is an ultimate cross.

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'PR' Grady's Barley - Treeing Walker

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