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A grown man that can not get his mind off children is a clear and present danger to all children. Putin calls them растлитель малолетних!

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A grown man that can not get his mind off children is a clear and present danger to all children.


Then why did they elect him? You voted for him.lol

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растлитель малолетних as Putins lap dog would say!

QUOTE]Originally posted by harleydan1956
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растлитель малолетних as Putins lap dog would say!

QUOTE]Originally posted by harleydan1956
Then why did they elect him?
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U.S. President Donald Trump has been the target of multiple accusations that he raped children aged 13 and younger, and he paid at least $35 million to settle most of those claims.



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Reversing job market opens door to larger Biden stimulus
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Fri, January 8, 2021, 9:05 AM CST·6 min read

The latest coronavirus wave slammed the U.S. economy in December, wiping out 140,000 jobs, raising pressure to accelerate vaccinations and blowing the door open for President-elect Joe Biden and a narrowly Democratic Congress to push for even more stimulus spending within weeks.

The December employment report, the last to be released during President Donald Trump’s administration, leaves the nation around 11 million short of the level of jobs from before Covid-19 crushed the economy and wiped out around 23 million jobs. Trump’s record will now include a recovered stock market but an enormous net loss of jobs.

Most of the losses in December, nearly 500,000, came in the leisure and hospitality industries as fresh lockdowns and lower travel led to widespread layoffs. The expiration of some of the first big stimulus package, passed back in March, also left consumers with less money to spend, hitting demand in the economy.


The December tumble, which left the jobless rate at 6.7 percent, suggests the distribution and adoption of coronavirus vaccines must increase rapidly in order to avoid much worse damage and allow for potential recovery in the spring and summer.

And it will give Biden and the Democrats wider leeway to force through trillions of dollars more in stimulus spending — by whatever legislative means available — including significant help for state and local governments. It also means the Democrats will likely be able to approve enough direct cash to reach the “$2,000 check” level they’ve long supported, when including the $600 checks approved by Congress and signed by Trump last month.

“The economy went into reverse in December and we are still 11.5 million jobs short of where we were and the biggest problem was the virus and the expiration of stimulus,” said Harvard professor Jason Furman, who served as chair of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Barack Obama. “Much more action is needed to control the virus and support the economy. And I think that will be enough to generate large improvements over the course of 2021.”

The December jobs report cements a strange legacy for Trump. The nation will have millions of jobs fewer than when he took office, partly due to a slow and halting federal response to the coronavirus. But the stock market has regained all its losses from the spring and now is hitting records once again as many companies that thrived during lockdowns soar and investors bet on a stronger 2021.

The bifurcation has led to a stark “K-shaped” recovery in which the top level of workers have largely if not completely recovered while tens of millions of Americans in lower-paying service industry jobs suffer. Economic inequality, already bad before the virus hit, is now at levels not seen since the 1920s before the Great Depression. Reversing that trend is among Biden’s top priorities. And he now has more weapons at his disposal with the narrowest of Senate majorities following Democrats‘ two special election wins in Georgia.

Biden will have full control of Washington — though not a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate — during the first two years of his term. And his economic advisers plan a heavy focus on spending to boost vaccination distribution, support strapped state and local governments, improve American infrastructure, further expand jobless benefits and pump more direct cash into individual households.

Economists and Wall Street analysts say some of the recent market ebullience is based on the assumption that Biden will be able to deliver on much of this even if Democrats decide against blowing up the legislative filibuster, which requires 60 votes in the Senate to overcome.

But they will have multiple opportunities to use the “budget reconciliation” vehicle to pass significant spending increases with a one-vote margin in the Senate. There is also the chance that more Republicans in the Senate will come around to the need for bigger stimulus spending given the wave of new coronavirus cases and the slow nature of the vaccine rollout.

“With the elections in Georgia giving control to the Democrats, we should expect to get a fairly large and targeted fiscal aid package in the first quarter of the year which investors clearly have seized on,” said Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist at consulting firm RSM. “We are going to get a targeted fiscal aid package quickly then another stimulus package and then infrastructure. And these are all huge things.”

The state and local aid will be especially important as states are already struggling to pay billions in extended benefits approved by Congress last month, leading to several weeks of delays in payments in places like California, Michigan, Florida and Washington. Losses in state and local government jobs forced by lower Covid-era tax receipts and the need to balance budgets is also driving down the national jobs numbers.

Failing to approve larger stimulus spending could push the economy into either a double-dip recession or a repeat of the slow, halting and unequal recovery that followed the financial crisis of 2008. The Biden team, many of whom worked in government during the Obama years, is determined to learn the lessons of the last major slowdown.

Still, even with major stimulus spending, the recovery will depend in large part on effective and widespread adoption of vaccines. And even then, it may take years to return to economic conditions before the virus hit. “I’m worried some of the scarring is extensive enough that we will be far from fully recovered at the end of 2021,” said Furman. “Today’s number expands what was already an open window for more support for the economy, but we will not be back in perfect condition until 2022 or 2023. It’s going to take a while in some places.”

Job losses in December, which ended seven months of gains following the enormous virus-induced declines, largely came in the service industry where restaurants and bars slashed 372,000 positions as cold weather and new lockdowns limited demand. Overall, employment in leisure and hospitality — which includes hotels, tourist sites and other categories, declined by 498,000. Gains in professional and business services, retail and other areas were not enough to offset the giant losses elsewhere. Government jobs declined by 45,000 amid growing budget crunches around the nation.

There are now around 11 million unemployed and the jobless rate remained at 6.7 percent, well below its Covid-era peak of over 14 percent but still double what it was before Covid hit. And there are still nearly 20 million Americans on some form of jobless assistance.

But Wall Street traders and many economists remain hopeful that the slide in jobs will reverse fairly early this year given prospects for vaccines and more fiscal aid. Should either of those things fail, however, the numbers could get significantly worse.

“While we remain very upbeat on the US' medium- to long-term prospects, we have to be braced for more bad economic data that could last well into the second half of 2021,” James Knightley, chief international economist at financial firm ING, wrote in a note to clients on Friday.

Bottom line is Trump could not have left the economy in any worst shape, only thing close was the great depression. What hamppered this recovery was Mitch M. And the Republican SENATE refusing to help Americans.

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WASHINGTON — Legal experts on the congressional power of impeachment believe President Donald Trump could be impeached and tried in the Senate even after he leaves office at noon on Jan. 20. Read on as to what it will remove.

As House Democratic leaders consider a vote on articles of impeachment as early as the middle of next week, here's a look at how the procedure would work.


The House can bring an impeachment resolution to the floor for an immediate vote, bypassing the process of committee hearings, which were held when Trump was impeached in 2019 and acquitted in the GOP-controlled Senate. In the normal course, skipping hearings would deprive impeachment proponents of the opportunity to build credibility and support by calling witnesses.

But in the current circumstances, supporters may consider that unnecessary.


It would take a simple majority vote for the House to impeach. Any articles of impeachment would then go to the Senate, where they could be referred to committee or be fast-tracked to the Senate floor.

In the Senate, a two-thirds vote is required to convict. Democrats, who will soon control the Senate, would need significant GOP support to convict.


If Trump were convicted, the Senate could then proceed to a vote on whether to bar him from holding future federal office. That would require a simple majority vote.

No president has ever been removed from office by the impeachment process, and no president has been impeached by the House more than once.

Legal experts are divided into three camps of opinion, however, on what happens if the president leaves office.

One group says a president can be impeached only while in office. "I tend to believe it is only for current office holders," said Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, author of "Impeachment: A Citizen's Guide."


According to a second group of scholars, if the House votes to impeach while the president is in office, the Senate can proceed to a trial even after the president has left office.

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"Once an impeachment begins in the House, it may continue to a Senate trial. I don't see any constitutional problem with the Senate acting fast or slowly," said Michael Gerhardt, a law professor at the University North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

And a third view is that the entire process can begin even after the president is out of office. And can be convicted!

"The constitutional case for late impeachment has more strengths and fewer flaws than the case against it," wrote Brian Kalt, a professor at the Michigan State University College of Law in a widely cited law review article on the subject.

No president has ever been impeached after leaving office, but there is one legal precedent that may be important and it will happen now, if no 25th.

In 1876, Secretary of War William Belknap was investigated by the House for corruption. Just minutes before the House was set to vote on his impeachment, he raced to the White House and handed his resignation to President Ulysses Grant.

The House went ahead and impeached him anyway, and the Senate proceeded to have a trial. A majority voted to convict, but not the two-thirds required, so he was acquitted. The scholars in the second camp point to this example to bolster their argument that even after leaving office, a president could be convicted and barred from holding future federal office. And this will happen.

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Trump is such a pathetic excuse of a human. Trump lost the presidency by millions of votes not once but twice, first president to ever accomplish that. Then Trump cost the Republicans the two Senate seats they needed to be involved in anything. Now the Republicans can just threaten or murder people which they have already done. They will be a never be a party again and the idiots, yes idiot that killed and destroyed the Capital will go to jail for life if not Captial punishment, maybe the firing squad Trump wanted? They try to scare but they do not remember they are the minority and just got even smaller. Ding Dong Donnie bye,bye!

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Richard Striner: President Trump must go to jail for our democracy to get back to normal | COMMENTARY
By RICHARD STRINER
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DEC 09, 2020 AT 4:00 PM


Donald Trump must go to jail.

It’s the only way to make things right in this country after four long years of unprecedented hell, and it’s the best way to guarantee that this will never happen again. So says his niece Mary Trump, who is right.


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Sean Hannity says that Trump should pardon himself, a grotesque misdeed to end them all. Let him try. He could still be hauled into court if the prosecutors make the obvious case that self-pardon is at odds with the original intent of the Founding Fathers. Let the smug “originalists” on the Supreme Court dig their teeth into that.

Then indict Hannity for aiding and abetting sedition.


This goes beyond the issues in Trump’s behavior that is crying out for prosecution: the tax fraud, the obstruction of justice, the perjury, the collusion with a foreign enemy, the conflicts of interest, the bribery, the nepotism, the subversion of the work of many federal agencies that constitutes nothing less than a conspiracy to defraud the United States by undermining the clear intent of statute law. It goes beyond the career progression that took Trump from the status of a con man to a white-collar criminal to a megalomaniac who seeks to drain the law of any substance.

It goes beyond all that, for in his mad compulsion to make his own will supreme, he has threatened our basic institutions. And he continues to threaten them.

He is spreading an infection of insanity that puts us in danger. His followers — about a third of our fellow citizens — are so seduced by his antics that they now consider it normal for the occupant of the White House to rant, hurl insults in every direction, and generate a massive torrent of lies. They copy what he does and such behavior is poisoning our culture. It is a threat to democracy itself.

After four years of back-handed but unmistakable compliments to neo-Nazis, Trump spreads his own version of Hitler’s “stab in the back” delusion. He spreads the lie that he won the election, that the Democrats “stole” it. He — of course — is the one who is attempting to steal an election, to overturn the will of the voters. The fraudster is at it again with his greatest fraud of all: the claim of fraud.

Trumps odds of being jailed In a Federal prison have jump to a 72% chance.

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LOL

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Re: LOL

3 PLAY so your telling me you have stopped responding, sounds like a Trumper as you just lied again! Please stay on topic and stop acting like Trump, as you know he is going to end his career!

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3 PLAY so your telling me you have stopped responding, sounds like a Trumper as you just lied again! Please stay on topic and stop acting like Trump, as you know he is going to end his career!

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Trump dropped by biggest lender Deutsche Bank for future business - NYT

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Tue, January 12, 2021, 4:35 AM EST
FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Deutsche Bank will not do business in the future with U.S. President Donald Trump or his companies in the wake of his supporters' assault on the U.S. Capitol, the New York Times reported.

Deutsche Bank is Trump's biggest lender, with about $340 million in loans outstanding to the Trump Organization, the president's umbrella group that is currently overseen by his two sons, according to Trump's disclosures with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics dated July 31 last year, plus banking sources.

The move, reported by the NYT and citing a person familiar with the bank's thinking, comes as Signature Bank - where Trump's ethics disclosures show he has checking and money-market accounts - called for him to step down.

"The resignation of the president ... is in the best interests of our nation and the American people," Signature Bank said on its website.

A spokesman for Deutsche Bank declined to comment on Tuesday on the NYT report.

The Trump Organization did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment outside normal business hours, and the White House press office did not answer the phone.

Christiana Riley, the head of Deutsche Bank's U.S. operations, condemned the Jan. 6 violence in Washington in a post on LinkedIn last week.

"We are proud of our Constitution and stand by those who seek to uphold it to ensure that the will of the people is upheld and a peaceful transition of power takes place," she wrote.

Reuters reported in November that Deutsche Bank was looking for ways to end its relationship with Trump after the U.S. elections, as it tires of the negative publicity stemming from the ties.

Trump's loans with Deutsche are for a golf course in Miami and hotels in Washington and Chicago.

The president was handed a rebuke by the world of professional golf this week, with the PGA of America and the R&A both announcing they would shun two courses owned by the President in the wake of the Capitol storming.

Twitter and Facebook have shut down Trump's social-media feeds.

Banks across the world shutting it off with Trump as he owes too much and no way to pay off his current debts much less new ones.

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Trump is out and that is still all that you have. What will the Trump haters do now? Bester will have to get a new hobby. They can't defend Biden and his green, socialist, increase taxes, increased regulations, open borders, censorship and anti guns policies. The Trump haters will have to retreat to their basements and hide.

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Early warning signs emerge for GOP after US Capitol riots, fleeing the Republican party by the thousands.
MARC LEVY, THOMAS BEAUMONT and NICHOLAS RICCARDI
Tue, January 12, 2021, 12:14 AM EST
HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — In the 36 hours after last week’s deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, 112 Republicans reached out to the election office in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to change their party registration. Ethan Demme was one of them.

“Ever since they started denying the election result, I kind of knew it was heading this way," said Demme, who is the county's former Republican Party chairman and has opposed President Donald Trump and is now an independent. "If they kept going, I knew there’s no way I can keep going. But if you’ve been a Republican all your life, it’s hard to jump out of a big boat and into a little boat.”

Officials are seeing similar scenes unfold elsewhere.

In Cumberland County, Pennsylvania, 192 people have changed their party registration since the Jan. 6 riot. Only 13 switched to the GOP — the other 179 changed to Democrat, independent or a third party, according to Bethany Salzarulo, the director of the bureau of elections.

In Linn County, Iowa, home to Cedar Rapids, more than four dozen voters dropped their Republican Party affiliations in the 48 hours after the Capitol attack. They mostly switched to no party, elections commissioner Joel Miller said, though a small number took the highly unusual step of cancelling their registrations altogether.

The party switching pales in comparison to the more than 74 million people who voted for President Donald Trump in November. And it's unclear whether they're united in their motivations. Some may be rejecting politics altogether while others may be leaving a Republican Party they fear will be less loyal to Trump.

But they offer an early sign of the volatility ahead for the GOP as the party braces for political fallout of the riots that Trump incited.

“I do think there’s a palpable shift, from knee-jerk defense of the president to ‘wow, that was a bridge too far,’” said Kirk Adams, the former Republican speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives.

Adams said he knew several people, including once-solid Trump supporters, who are switching their registrations. He said it may be weeks or months before the full impact of the insurrection is clear.

“Minds are being changed," he said. "But you can’t go overnight from ‘I think the president’s right and the election is being stolen’ to ‘I guess he was wrong about everything.’”

Party registration doesn't always preview how voters will actually cast their ballots, especially when the next major national elections are nearly two years away. But party leaders across the country are expressing concern that the riots could have a lasting impact.

The GOP cannot afford any slippage in its ranks after an election that, even with record-breaking Republican turnout, saw them lose control of both the presidency and the U.S. Senate.

“Increasingly I’ve looked at my party in this state and our numbers are dwindling,” said Gary Eichelberger, a commissioner in suburban Cumberland County, Pennsylvania. “If we narrow the base of the party, we are going to lose this county.”

Republicans in Washington are approaching the moment with caution, denouncing the insurrection and providing scant defense of Trump. But so far, few have joined Democratic calls for the president's impeachment and immediate removal.

Just two Senate Republicans, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Patrick Toomey of Pennsylvania, have called on Trump to resign.

Multiple GOP officials said there was some unease about the party’s direction at the RNC winter meeting on Amelia Island, Florida, which took place a few days after the attack. Serious conversations are underway at the committee to conduct a comprehensive look at the 2020 election results to determine what the party did wrong and how to better appeal to voters, according to Henry Barbour, a RNC member from Mississippi.

But Trump still has a pull on swaths of the GOP base.

A Quinnipiac Poll released on Monday found roughly three-quarters of Republicans believe Trump's false statements that there was widespread voter fraud in November’s election, which is what triggered the attack on the Capitol after Trump urged a crowd of supporters to go to Congress as it was set to certify the victory of President-elect Joe Biden.

Overall 7 in 10 Republicans approved of Trump’s performance as president, compared to 89% in Quinnipiac’s December poll.

“When you love President Trump, you love President Trump,” said Michele Fiore, an RNC committeewoman from Nevada. “With all of our hearts, we support him. We know he did not create the chaos that happened in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6.”

Rae Chornenky, who stepped down as chair of the Maricopa County Republican Party in Arizona shortly after the election amid a power struggle with those in the state party claiming widespread election fraud, said she thinks the president still has a hammerlock on the party’s grass roots.

“They just believe it was a stolen election, and they’re not going to back off that position,” Chornenky said. “He’ll be the driving force” of the GOP for years to come, Chornenky predicted of Trump.

The 2022 midterm elections may provide a test of that. Former Rep. Ryan Costello is strongly considering a run for Pennsylvania’s open Senate seat as a Republican. A longtime Trump critic, he sees the time as ripe for an explicitly anti-Trump GOP candidate.

“We need people willing to lose races, lose political campaigns, over this,” Costello said. “We need campaigns about the cleansing of the party. Sometimes it’s not possible to dance around landmines. Sometimes, you’ve just got to jump in there.”

Beaumont reported from Des Moines, Iowa, and Riccardi from Denver. Associated Press writers Summer Ballentine in Columbia, Missouri; Scott Bauer in Madison, Wisconsin; Hannah Fingerhut in Washi

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THE 7 BIGGEST FAILURES OF TRUMPONOMICS

Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress keep crowing about the economy, when in reality Trumponomics has been a disaster. Here are its 7 biggest failures:

1. Trump promised to bring down America’s trade deficit “as fast as possible.” Instead, the trade deficit has hit an all-time high. The United States is now purchasing more goods and services from the rest of the world than we sell abroad than at any time in history.

2. As a presidential candidate in 2016, he said he could completely eliminate the federal debt in 8 years. Instead, the federal debt has exploded thanksto Trump and the GOP’s $1.9 trillion tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations. They’re already using the growing debt to threaten cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

3. He promised to boost the wages of American workers, including a $4,000 pay raise for the average American family. Instead, wages for most Americans have been flat, adjusted for inflation. Meanwhile, over the same period, corporate profits have soared and the rich have become far richer, but the gains haven’t trickled down.

4. His administration said that corporations would invest their savings from tax cuts. Instead, corporations spent more money buying back shares of their own stock in 2018 than they invested in new equipment or facilities. These stock buybacks provide no real benefit for the economy, but boost executive bonuses and payouts for wealthy investors.

5. He promised a tax cut for middle-class families. Instead most Americans will end up paying more by 2027.

6. He promised to keep jobs in America and crack down on companies that ship jobs overseas. Instead, his tax law has created financial incentives for corporations to expand their operations abroad. Trump’s trade wars have also encouraged companies like Harley Davidson to move production overseas.

7. He promised to “drain the swamp” of Washington lobbyists. Instead, he’s put them in charge of health, safety, and environmental protections–which has endangered most Americans while increasing corporate profits even further.

The real recipe for economic growth is to invest in Americans–in their health, education, job training, and infrastructure.

But Trumponomics has exploded the deficit, hurt ordinary Americans, and lined the pockets of the wealthy and corporations.

Don’t let Trump and Republicans claim otherwise.

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96 Percent of Trump’s China Tariff Proceeds Has Gone to Bail Out Angry Farmers
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October 28, 2020


Where Has Trump's China Tariff Revenue Gone?
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“China” is “paying billions and billions of dollars” on U.S. tariffs, President Trump said in his debate with Joe Biden on October 22. “And you know who got the money? Our farmers. Our great farmers.”

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Since 2018, the president has repeatedly insisted that China pays the tariffs he has imposed on Chinese imports. This claim is false—the tariffs are paid entirely by U.S. importers. His advisers, such as Peter Navarro, knowing the claim is false, have tried to defend him, and the tariffs, by arguing that China pays the tariffs indirectly, through currency depreciation and lowering export prices. These arguments are also false, as well as illogical—since the advisers also claim that such Chinese behavior benefits China and hurts the United States.

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The president’s statements do, however, check out on his other point. American farmers have indeed laid claim to nearly all his China tariff revenue, which now totals $66 billion.

In 2018 and ’19, Trump authorized payments to U.S. farmers of $28 billion to offset their losses from Chinese trade retaliation. This year, with farmers struggling under the twin crises of the trade war and the pandemic, bailouts have soared way higher. Trump promised angry farmers another $19 billion in April and $14 billion in September—bringing his bailouts to a grand total of $61 billion. He has pledged to continue these bailouts until the trade war ends.

That trade war has cost U.S. companies many billions in new import taxes (while undermining their competitiveness and increasing consumer prices), yet it has earned the government far less. As the chart above shows, payouts to farmers battered by Chinese retaliation have eaten up over 92 percent of the trade-war tax proceeds.

The president is therefore right when he says farmers “got” his tariff money. That money came not from China, however, but from taxes he imposed on Americans.

Oh, and the border wall? It was not, as the president said at the debate, paid for by a “border tax” on Mexico. It too has been financed entirely by taxes on Americans.

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Block Him like I did or don't respond let him go pout when he can't get any one to response . It is pretty obvious He is only is trying to aggravate or stir up trouble Pretty soon he'll get tired of playing by him self
Never has any thing useful to contribute instead of STUPID and unintelligent comments like the other RATS..
Probably how he gets his excitement every day . Besides maybe going to the bathroom for his fun.

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Stay on track, little slow I understand but please do try.

I’m praying that we are witnessing the demise of the Republican party. I’m also praying that the end of the Democratic party is close on its tail. Political parties are the primary reason why the promise of democracy has not been fulfilled. They have solidified the winner-take-all system we suffer through, where the only people who are ever truly satisfied are the politicians themselves. They are the reason we can’t get rid of corruption, divisive campaigning and lobbyists. They are the reason that no matter where you live, nearly half of your neighbors feel they’re not represented. They are the root of the polarization and hatred.

Political parties only seek electoral wins and sustained power. They form their platforms to pander to those who are passionate about specific issues, and to secure their votes, with no thought to an overarching philosophy – or even a real vision or end game to secure one. A person passionately against abortion is forced to vote for someone who believes the wealthy should pay no taxes and that industry can freely destroy the environment. A person passionate about expanding individual freedom and ensuring fairness in the justice system is forced to vote for someone who supports ideological censorship, cancel culture and universal “political correctness” - not acknowledging that something that may be inappropriate to say in a workplace meeting, or a Sunday school, can be just fine in a comedy club or an intellectual forum.
Is it right that conservatives in California have no real representation? Is it right that progressives in Indiana have no real representation? Both those unrepresented groups still pay taxes. Didn’t we fight a war over just such an issue?

Fantasize with me for a moment… imagine that in every congressional district, the representative or senator’s voting record matched up with the political demographic of his/her constituents, rather than simply voting with the party 99% of the time. Would you be more satisfied with a slow, steady march toward the will of the people, or with the current 4 to 8-year cycle of lurching between political extremes? Would you accept disagreeing with your representative a good portion of the time if his record showed that ALL his constituents were being proportionately represented? Would you vote for an unaffiliated candidate who promised to do just this if you currently live in a district where your political party is the majority?

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Block Him like I did or don't respond let him go pout when he can't get any one to response . It is pretty obvious He is only is trying to aggravate or stir up trouble Pretty soon he'll get tired of playing by him self
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Probably how he gets his excitement every day . Besides maybe going to the bathroom for his fun.
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Trump’s final grade on the economy: C-
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Tue, January 12, 2021, 2:53 PM EST
It could be worse. The last year of Donald Trump’s presidency involved widespread business shutdowns as the coronavirus pandemic disrupted nearly everything. Many critics grade his presidency an F, across the board.

But the Trump economy has a few redeeming traits, according to the final rendition of the Yahoo Finance Trumponomics Report Card. We inaugurated the report card after Trump took office in 2017, to measure the economy under Trump compared with six prior presidents, going back to Jimmy Carter in the 1970s. We use data provided by Moody’s Analytics and follow a strict methodology that involves no interpretation.

The high-water mark for the Trump economy was an A- in September 2017 due to Obama's work, when he had the low score among the seven presidents for hourly earnings, and the Average score for GDP growth and manufacturing employment. The Trump economy was in the B range for most of his term. It dropped to C in April, as layoffs surged, and it has stayed there ever since.

Plumbing the components of our report card shows where the real damage to the economy persists, and where recovery has begun. Trump now ranks worst among the seven presidents in three of the six categories we track: total employment, GDP growth per capita, and exports. The economy has lost 3 million jobs since Trump took office, the worst performance by far. Next worse was the 74,000 jobs lost during George W. Bush’s first term, from 2001 to 2005. All of the Trump job losses have come in the last nine months.


GDP per capita has grown just 1.6% since Trump took office. GDP growth under Trump was solid until the second quarter of last year, when it plunged and went negative for the entirety of Trump’s term. It rebounded in the third quarter to become slightly positive for Trump’s presidency. The second-worst reading was 2.4% growth at the end of George H. W. Bush’s term.


Exports also plummeted at the onset of the pandemic, as trade flows contracted. Exports are down 4.4% since Trump took office, again, the worst showing by far.


What saved Trump from a D or F grade were top numbers for earnings and a relatively strong showing for manufacturing employment and the stock market. Average hourly earnings under Trump have been the highest of any president since October 2019, and that hasn’t changed. It might be surprising that earnings are strong in a grueling downturn, but the coronavirus layoffs actually pushed measured earnings higher. That’s because many of the layoffs were among lower-paid workers, which pushed average wages higher for those still lucky enough to have a job.


The manufacturing sector has lost 60,000 jobs during Trump’s term, but that’s still better than under four other presidents. Manufacturing has sharply declined during the last 30 years, with the worst job losses—2.8 million—coming during George W. Bush’s first term. Trump policies didn’t bring many new factories to America—even though he claimed they did—but manufacturing may have held up under Trump simply because it had bottomed out after a 30-year decline and begun to stabilize. Manufacturers also managed to adopt coronavirus protections that let them keep cranking out products Americans needed during lockdowns.


Then there’s the bubbly stock market, which endured one of the shortest bear markets ever last spring, before stocks took off again and began hitting new record highs. The S&P 500 stock index under Trump registered the third-best performance, with only Barack Obama and Bill Clinton enjoying better returns during their first terms. Stocks have had a lot of help, mostly from the Federal Reserve’s aggressive monetary stimulus measures. That’s one reason stocks have sailed far beyond the broader economy, which remains depressed. But the Fed rolled out similar measures during Obama’s first term, when the economy was still reeling from the 2008 financial wipeout. Friendly Fed policy has buoyed stocks for most of the last decade, in fact.


Trump, of course, is leaving office amid unprecedented turmoil, much of it generated by Trump himself. The economy may not figure as much in his legacy as the Jan. 6 riots at the US Capitol, which he encouraged, or his flagrant effort to overturn the 2020 election results to keep himself in power. If there’s a coda to the final Trumponomics Report Card, it may be that the nation is lucky it might be able to recover once Trump is gone, instead of failing for good.

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Trump impeachment may define the Republican Party
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Wed, January 13, 2021, 7:21 AM EST
WASHINGTON — With an impeachment vote Wednesday, Republicans stand on the brink of a historic decision over whether to punish or protect a president who many say incited a deadly mob to overrun the U.S. Capitol in a push to overturn the election result.

The decision could define the party and shape American democracy for generations to come.

A handful of House Republicans have endorsed impeachment, most notably the third-ranking Rep. Liz Cheney, of Wyoming, who said President Donald Trump "lit the flame of this attack" and who accused him of an unprecedented "betrayal" of his oath to the Constitution.

Others Republicans who announced support for impeachment Tuesday were Reps. John Katko of New York, Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington. The impeachment measure is likely to sail through the Democratic-led House, with or without Republican support.


What happens after that is unclear. The Senate requires a two-thirds majority to convict a president, which will mean at least 17 Republicans would need to join Democrats if the vote is taken after Jan. 20. That's a tall order.

The judgment of history looms. And for some who want to make a break from Trump and chart a new path for the Republican Party, time is running short.

"It sure seems like the last best chance to stand up to the guy while it still matters," said Liam Donovan, a lobbyist and former GOP campaign operative. "Republicans can speak up now or they can follow the path of least resistance, but at some point there will be a reckoning, and it will come at a political cost."

The political calculation is complicated for GOP lawmakers as core voters in the party have latched on to Trump's groundless claims of mass fraud in the 2020 election and continue to support him.

The outcome may center on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., a Trump ally who broke with him on Jan. 6 when making an impassioned plea to affirm President-elect Joe Biden's victory. But McConnell's intentions aren't clear. His office had no comment Tuesday on impeachment.

Others say his position could determine the outcome.

"I think if McConnell supports conviction in the Senate then the votes will be there to convict the president," said a senior Republican aide, who requested anonymity to speak candidly.

A Quinnipiac poll taken after the violence at the Capitol found that, among Republicans, 51 percent approve of Trump's job performance and 43 percent believe he is protecting, not undermining, democracy. Among voters overall, 68 percent disapprove of his performance, and 81 percent saying he's undermining, not protecting, democracy.

"The political calculus is impossible for members to ignore, but if ever there was a time, it's now," said Rory Cooper, a consultant and former House GOP leadership aide who is critical of Trump.

"The public's reaction to the Capitol attack is nearly universally negative according to polling done since, so attaching your condemnation to those events and those events only probably softens political blowback and gives members some shielding," he said. "Elections aren't for two years and so the electoral risk is low today and grows exponentially."

The House voted Tuesday to pass a measure calling on Vice President Mike Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove Trump, along with a majority of the Cabinet, by declaring him unfit to serve. It was a symbolic vote with no practical impact as Pence made clear earlier Tuesday he would not do that, and Congress lacks the authority to compel him.

Many Republicans rose to Trump's defense during the debate Tuesday night, accusing Democrats of being divisive.

"Why are the Democrats stoking the fire instead of dousing the flames?" asked Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., who recently supported the effort to overturn the election result by voting against counting electoral votes from Arizona and Pennsylvania.

The 25th Amendment measure was just a prelude to the main event on Wednesday, when the House is slated to vote on an article of impeachment charging the president with "Incitement of Insurrection."

If it convicts Trump, the Senate also has the power to bar him from holding office again, a move that could instantly change the shape of the 2024 primary and make way for a new kind of GOP leader. That may not be what Republican voters want, but it has some appeal among lawmakers.

"I think there is a sizeable majority in both chambers that desires an outcome where Trump cannot run for public office again," Cooper said. Both Republicans nor Democrat's want to go through this again.

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EXPLAINER: How Trump's 2nd impeachment will unfold
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FILE - In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo, Trump supporters try to break through a police barrier at the Capitol in Washington. For America's allies and rivals alike, the chaos unfolding during Donald Trump's final days as president is the logical result of four years of global instability brought on by the man who promised to change the way the world viewed the United States. (AP Photo/Julio Cortez, File)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The House is expected to impeach President Donald Trump for his encouragement of supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol, a vote that would make him the first American president to be impeached twice.

While the previous three impeachments — those of Presidents Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Trump — took months before a final vote, including investigations and hearings, this time it will have only taken a week. After the rioting at the Capitol, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said "we must take action,” and Democrats — and some Republicans — share her view ahead of Wednesday's vote.

For now, the Republican-led Senate is not expected to hold a trial and vote on whether to convict Trump before Democrat Joe Biden is sworn in as president Jan. 20. Still, Democrats feel that action by the House would send an important message to the country.

A look at what will happen as the House moves closer to impeaching Trump in his last week in office:

THE BASICS OF IMPEACHMENT

In normal order, there would be an impeachment investigation and the evidence would be sent to the House Judiciary Committee, which would hold hearings, draft articles and send them to the full House. That’s what happened in 2019, when the House impeached Trump over his dealings with the president of Ukraine. It took three months.

This time, with so few days to act — and a feeling among Democrats that there is little need to investigate what happened, since most members of Congress heard Trump speak to his supporters and were in the Capitol when the mob broke in — impeachment is going straight to the House floor for a vote, which would come as soon as Wednesday.

Once the House votes to impeach, the articles and evidence would be sent to the Senate, where a trial would be held and there would be final votes to convict or acquit. That's what the Senate did in early February of last year after Trump was impeached the first time.

THE ARTICLES

Democrats will begin debate Wednesday on a single impeachment charge: “incitement of insurrection."

“President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of Government,” reads the four-page impeachment article, which was introduced by Democratic Reps. David Cicilline of Rhode Island, Ted Lieu of California and Jamie Raskin of Maryland.

“He will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office,” it reads.

The article says the behavior is consistent with Trump’s prior efforts to “subvert and obstruct” the results of the election and references his recent call with the Georgia secretary of state, in which he said he wanted him to find him more votes after losing the state to Biden.

Trump has falsely claimed there was widespread fraud in the election, and the baseless claims have been repeatedly echoed by congressional Republicans and the insurgents who descended on the Capitol. Just before the riots, Trump spoke to the supporters near the White House and encouraged them to “fight like hell."

As the protesters broke in, both chambers were debating GOP challenges to the electoral vote count in Arizona as part of the process for certifying Biden's election win.

REPUBLICAN SUPPORT

On Tuesday, five Republicans said they would support impeachment. No Republicans supported Trump's first impeachment in 2019.

Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the No. 3 Republican in the House and the daughter of former Vice President Dick Cheney, said she would vote to impeach Trump because "there has never been a greater betrayal by a President of the United States of his office and his oath to the Constitution.”

Cheney said Trump “summoned” the mob that attacked the Capitol last week, “assembled the mob, and lit the flame of this attack.”

New York Rep. John Katko was the first Republican to say he’d vote to impeach. A former federal prosecutor, he said he did not make the decision lightly.

“To allow the president of the United States to incite this attack without consequence is a direct threat to the future of our democracy," Katko said. “I cannot sit by without taking action.”

Also saying they would vote for impeachment were Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington.

SENDING TO THE SENATE

Once the House passes the articles, Pelosi can decide when she sends them to the Senate. Under the current schedule, the Senate is not set to resume full sessions until Jan. 19, which is the day before Biden's inauguration.

Some Democrats suggested Pelosi might wait to send the articles and allow Biden to begin his term without impeachment hanging over him. But many other Democrats have urged Pelosi to move immediately.

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, who will be in charge once Biden is sworn in, suggested in a letter to colleagues Tuesday the chamber might divide its time between confirming Biden's nominees, approving COVID relief and conducting the trial.

If the trial isn't held until Trump is already out of office, it could still have the effect of preventing him from running for president again.

Biden has said it’s important to ensure that the “folks who engaged in sedition and threatening the lives, defacing public property, caused great damage — that they be held accountable.”

SENATE POLITICS

It's unlikely, for now, that enough Republicans would vote to convict, since two-thirds of the Senate is needed. Yet some Republicans have told Trump to resign, including Pennsylvania Sen. Pat Toomey and Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, and few are defending him.

Republican Sen. Ben Sasse has said he would take a look at what the House approves, but stopped short of committing to support it.

Other Republicans have said that impeachment would be divisive. South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, long a key ally of the president, has been critical of his behavior in inciting the riots but said impeachment “will do far more harm than good.”

Only one Republican voted to convict Trump last year — Utah Sen. Mitt Romney.

WHAT IMPEACHMENT WOULD MEAN

Democrats say they have to move forward, even if the Senate doesn't convict.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders tweeted on Friday that some people might ask why they would try to impeach a president with only a few days left in office.

“The answer: Precedent,” he said. “It must be made clear that no president, now or in the future, can lead an insurrection against the U.S. government.”

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