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Dog coming in to closed tree after cast arrived, Shine time starts dog comes in But never checks tree, dog gos to the handler and he handles him, Question is his strike scored depending on how the tree is scored or is he minus for quitting track?

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Minus strike for quitting track, if he never went to the tree.

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The strike points are determined by the way the tree is scored. He is NOT minus for "QUITTING HIS TRACK" when coming into a closed tree.

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I think he is scored depending on how the tree is scored. He is not considered to have quit his track, he is handled at the tree and scored as such. Rule 5(b).

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2 questions before I answer. Did the judge say to handle him? Was any other dogs at large?

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No dogs at large.
No he never asked if he could handle him.

Another Question,
Ch cast so let’s say there was a possum, he never showed treed just came to the handler an was handled is he scratched or minus for quitting track ?

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How close was the handler to the tree ?



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Apx 10/15 yards shining the tree, what is the distance that would change the call? The answer should be the same rather it was a possum, coon, cycle or slick, he either quit the track or it depends on how the tree is scored, how do you score it?

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I thought we went over this awhile back even a ntch if he comes in after the judge gets there he gets a free pass unless there is a coon. Gets circled !!



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Originally posted by nitehunter2004
No dogs at large.
No he never asked if he could handle him.

Another Question,
Ch cast so let’s say there was a possum, he never showed treed just came to the handler an was handled is he scratched or minus for quitting track ?

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I agree, I throw the possum in just to see how the two handlers an the one that said minus on track would vote same if it was a possum.
Now I don’t like it, I think the dog quit his track an came in, I think he would had came in if we was at the truck and not the tree.

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I agree anytime that dog comes in to a tree after the cast gets there he deserves a minus in my books but that's not the rules if a possum he should get what they get. But if he comes in you got to handle him.


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It wasn’t mine, my 1 year old got 3rd strike 1st tree on 1st drop then she blows out cross a big Rd I withdrew, my nerves can’t handle hunting near them roads.

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I thought the judge had to tell you to handle your dog. At that point he could determine if the dog quit track or come in to the tree. And the way I've read the rules if a Ch is caught treeing off game regardless of what's been scored until the hunt time is up they are scratched.

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Originally posted by nextcoonhunters
I thought the judge had to tell you to handle your dog. At that point he could determine if the dog quit track or come in to the tree. And the way I've read the rules if a Ch is caught treeing off game regardless of what's been scored until the hunt time is up they are scratched.

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I've been reading these questions and all of the responses. I haven't hunted a lot of UKC hunts for the last few years but if a dog comes into a handler at anytime if it isn't minused, then it should be. I haven't been up to date on the rules but surely somewhere in the rules they should be a common sense rule, and common sense tells me the dog quit its track. However this is only my opinion but we have way to many rules if that dog don't get minused.

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Better ask Allen but I'll bet he gets scratched

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I've been reading these questions and all of the responses. I haven't hunted a lot of UKC hunts for the last few years but if a dog comes into a handler at anytime if it isn't minused, then it should be. I haven't been up to date on the rules but surely somewhere in the rules they should be a common sense rule, and common sense tells me the dog quit its track. However this is only my opinion but we have way to many rules if that dog don't get minused.

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Better ask Allen but I'll bet he gets scratched

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If they just come in and don't tree they are fine. But if they tree they are done. As long as it's still hunt time. The moment hunt time is up view can carry in a possum in. And I'm just going by what Allen told me 3 months back.

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Originally posted by nextcoonhunters
If they just come in and don't tree they are fine. But if they tree they are done. As long as it's still hunt time. The moment hunt time is up view can carry in a possum in. And I'm just going by what Allen told me 3 months back.

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Originally posted by nextcoonhunters
If they just come in and don't tree they are fine. But if they tree they are done. As long as it's still hunt time. The moment hunt time is up view can carry in a possum in. And I'm just going by what Allen told me 3 months back.

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I said minus cause of rule 4, a. The exception to that rule is 5, b. But in this case, the dog did not in fact come into the tree but came into his handler and without being told to handle, the dog was handled. Jmo, and we all have one, based on the rule, the dog should be minuses for quitting his track. It would be different if the dog was handled on the tree.

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As has been mentioned a dog coming into a tree after everyone’s has arrived can not be scratched for off game. Now the way I read the post the guy wasn’t told to handle his dog so may be able to scratch him for handling his dog.

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Tim, read the first 2 sentences of your original post. You say "comes in to" twice. The rule doesn't say anything about treeing, it just says comes in to. Whether you agree with it or not doesn't matter, you have to go by the rule.

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