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I've been using a garmin astro for just a few times. wow, I see a lot of things I hadn't seen before. tonight my kemmer cur and my 50 cent no name hound got after something together. i'm sure it wasn't a deer because it crossed the road and there were no tracks. so I let them go. the kemmer got stuck at 470 yrds and the 50 cent hound got stuck at 720 yards. before I would have thought they were just messing around and didn't want to come back. with the astro I could see that they were separated by 250 yrds and not moving at all. looks like they must be after a possum in the ground but two of them separated by 250 yrds? that doesn't seem right. they got gone together but separated on two different possums. I'll never know for sure because I didn't and I won't go into the wilderness that far at night alone. they have shock collars on them but they didn't respond to them. I wonder if they were out of range? the sportdog system has a 2 mile range. it's flat here but very think. is 720 yards too far in thick stuff? I guess i'll be going back to get them tomorrow.

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720 yards in n.c. good choice on not going to them . could have run into big foot or a panther .could be when the collar hit them they laid down scared to move if the garmin showed them still in the same place .

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You left them?! At 720 YARDS? Did you ever watch where the red fern grows? They do their part, Billy does his? Around here, a dog typically gets deep to find a coon. So bet on a far walk. Then, I've been into caves, come through cane brakes bleeding they are so thick, been on crazy scary bluff ledges, heck one night last summer, I waded the buffalo river in my underwear to get to the dogs! Getting to them is half the FUN!! I want mine to blow a hole in the dark, and he will. When he loads up on the wood, no matter where it is, he will be there when I get there, because that is the deal we made as a team. He goes gets a coon. Bottom line. Then it's my job to go pet him up, and get him home safely. Cause he's my buddy. Up here in these rough hills, when a dog trees you a coon, he's worked hard for it usually. He deserves to know in his heart I'm coming. I don't want him letting me down, and I'm not going to let him down. I'm sorry, but around here, we go to the dogs.

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I went to get them this morning. When I got to the forest I got a location on one dog, it was ok, so I went looking for the other dog. I never got a signal. I drove all around and never got a signal. I went and got the other dog but as I went to him I lost signal. Went I got to him his collar was dead. I guess the battery gave out and it turned off. I figured that's what happened to the other dogs' collar too. I had to go home and feed puppies and other dogs. After that I went back to the forest, drove around looking and finally found her near where I turned them out. She was ready to come home. She didn't come out because she didn't want to come out. She has a long record of spending the night in the woods. I thought I had her cured of that with the shock collar but she must have been out of range for it to work. I'm going back tomorrow and find that spot where she was just to see for once just what she was doing all night. I expect she was digging out a possum.

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I guess im missing something. Why didn't you walk 2160 ft to get your dogs? I don't get it. With a garmin you never have to leave a dog.

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I left them because it was too far for me to go into this wilderness alone. I don't care to crawl under impenetrable jungle when in most cases I won't even be able to see the tree trunk. You can wade across creeks, swim rivers in your underwear and spend hours crawling to your dogs if you want. That's your business. I do this for fun and doing those things are not fun for me. I didn't make a covenant with my dogs that I would always see them at the tree. My dogs understand that I will be there sometimes and they are still thrilled to
go every time. Of course if I suspected something was wrong or they were in danger I would have gone but not just to join them at the tree.

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is this a joke or are you serious about the 720 yard deep thick jungle forest thing you mention? sounds like you have a couple dogs there that do what a 1000 other guys wish their dogs would do...GO HUNTING!!!! jeez buddy if your dogs go huntin, get struck and get treed then you take your butt in there and get them..you have the best piece of equipment i know of to find your dogs and if you read your instruction book it tells you how to mark where you started so you can get back out..how would you like it if your momma sent you in the woods and left you out there all night cause she thought it was to far and snakey. if this post wasnt a joke then next time you go huntin, go get them dogs after they do their part. dont forget your light

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Some people are afraid of the dark. Watcha gonna do?

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Obvious question is why would you even turn a dog loose you don't intend to go to when it does it's job?
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some are still trying to prove to themselves that they are men. go for it and good luck.

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I wouldn't turn a dog loose if i had no intentions of going and getting it. I f you can't go get your dog when its hunting you shouldn't turn it loose.

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is that like the code of the west or something. Where is it written into law that a man must always go to his dog? Sometimes it isn't prudent. For me, I decide when it's prudent or not. I decide if it's worth it or not. I want my dogs to go hunting and to come back when I call them. Sometimes I call them at the tree and sometimes I call them from the truck. This game of coon hunting and how it is to be done is not etched in granite. It's to be done how ever one wishes to do it. So get over yourself Mr. Coonhunter and put down the coonhunter banner because your opinion means nothing to me. It means nothing to me if you go to your dogs every time or never. Since when was it written that to hunt coons one must do it thus and such? Who's the authority who tells me how I must do it?

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You are correct, there us not a written code to alwaysbe go get your dogs, but it is the right thing to do. You do not seem to have any confidence in your dogs and you may be correct in what they were doing. Yourdogs dogs will never be any good if you do not handle them any better. You should get you someboots fox dogs to listen at them run and you will never have to go to them treed. You should expect negative comments to your post as most of this board consists of coon hunters. We alwaysdo goto to our dogs or wecan do not turn loose. Dave Please excuse extra words misspelled,etc chubby fingers.

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Not to long ago this croationkid was posting on here how his neighbor didn't take care of his dogs and such! And now he just leaves his in the wood when he knows exactly where they are? Tht doesn't seem very responsible to me. This must be where the activists get their ammunition from people just abandoning hunting dogs cause they just don't feel like going after them. The repercussions of being so irresponsible are felt throughout the hunting dog world. I'm very ashamed.

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It's the right thing to do says Dave. So you be sure to always go to your dog. I'll go when ever I want and it fits the way I hunt. I do have little confidence in my dogs treeing coons They frequently tree possums, chase fox and rabbits and sometimes even a coon. They're bad about treeing possums in the ground and will spend all night trying to get one out. That's ok with me. Some times I will help them get a possum out but not as often as I once did. I don't care to kill stuff but if my dogs do I don't worry about much. You see, I don't competition hunt. I hunt just for the fun of it. My dogs are great, to me. I don't want fox hounds because I have my dogs and I'm not going to dump them on someone else or shot them as the real men do. None of you hunt as I and I never write negative stuff about you real coon hunters. I've been coming here for a while. The moderators don't seem to mind what I post. And Rob, I left them in the woods, well away from any black top roads. I don't turn loose until I'm one mile in just because I don't want them to get on a road. This is a wilderness area. I'm not hunting someone's farm. They are reasonably safe except for the risk of snake bite. And no, the activists don't get their ammunition from me. They get it from all the so called real coon hunters posting pictures of dogs stretching and molesting coons as part of their training. And they get it from real coon hunters who shot their dogs because they don't measure up. I keep my culls and make the most of it. My 50 cent dog is a rescue. He's not good enough for a real manly coon hunter like you.

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It's the right thing to do says Dave. So you be sure to always go to your dog. I'll go when ever I want and it fits the way I hunt. I do have little confidence in my dogs treeing coons They frequently tree possums, chase fox and rabbits and sometimes even a coon. They're bad about treeing possums in the ground and will spend all night trying to get one out. That's ok with me. Some times I will help them get a possum out but not as often as I once did. I don't care to kill stuff but if my dogs do I don't worry about much. You see, I don't competition hunt. I hunt just for the fun of it. My dogs are great, to me. I don't want fox hounds because I have my dogs and I'm not going to dump them on someone else or shot them as the real men do. None of you hunt as I and I never write negative stuff about you real coon hunters. I've been coming here for a while. The moderators don't seem to mind what I post. And Rob, I left them in the woods, well away from any black top roads. I don't turn loose until I'm one mile in just because I don't want them to get on a road. This is a wilderness area. I'm not hunting someone's farm. They are reasonably safe except for the risk of snake bite. And no, the activists don't get their ammunition from me. They get it from all the so called real coon hunters posting pictures of dogs stretching and molesting coons as part of their training. And they get it from real coon hunters who shot their dogs because they don't measure up. I keep my culls and make the most of it. My 50 cent dog is a rescue. He's not good enough for a real manly coon hunter like you.

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See, there you go. Another real coon hunter who won't go to his dogs unless it's a coon. If it trees a possum, he'll leave it in the woods. My dogs don't take long to catch up to a possum. They were probably running a fresh fox track and stumbled on to a possum that went underground. And unlike real coon hunters, I never beat my dogs off of holes because it ok with me.

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If I'm already a mile in I don't think I'd worry about another 700 yards. Come on boys go get your dogs, for their safety. Those are your buddies right, wrong, opossum, coon, fox, Bigfoot, big bird, purple people eater, etc.

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this is priceless lmao

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Must be true..... You can't make this stuff up!!!! Lol

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Wow absolutey the laziest thing I have ever read and if it is cause your to scared to go into that terribly thick forest then get a different hobby a real man can admit his fears lol

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Man, I am 16 days shy of turning 69 years old. I went hunting tonight by myself ( in the mountains ) one dog and myself. I knew when I turned loose that it might be a short hunt or I might be out all night, but I was coming home with my dog. He treed accross the highest ridge in the mt. I huffed and puffed my way to him, but go to him I did. You have all the fun you want to hunting the way you want, but no pat on the back from me. I owe it to my dogs, you may not!. Dave

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See, there you go. Another real coon hunter who won't go to his dogs unless it's a coon. If it trees a possum, he'll leave it in the woods. My dogs don't take long to catch up to a possum. They were probably running a fresh fox track and stumbled on to a possum that went underground. And unlike real coon hunters, I never beat my dogs off of holes because it ok with me.

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I don't know if it's real but, this is funny stuff. Enjoyed reading all these posts.
North Carolina must be real rough hunting, maybe it gets darker there. HA HA HA.

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