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I have a pup out of a stud that will rename nameless. He is out of a half brother half sister cross. I read once that tight crosses can result in a very wired hound.

He is 6 months old and extremely wired, to the point he acts like a jack russel in a coonhounds body. I have a fenced in area, where he gets plenty of exercise probably 2 to 3 hrs a day. He still wakes up barking every morning. On the other hand shows an extreme amount of drive. I have been told these types of pups that tend to be a pain in the butt, will often make good hounds because they have that extra gear. Agree or disagree?

What has been your experienced with this trait? Do you find this extra energy to be worth the trouble?

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Depends if they have the brains to use the extra energy.

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I also have a 19 month old "pup" out of a half brother/sister cross. He is very energetic and hyper at times. I like his enthusiasm and drive, his batteries never seem to run out. He is also what most would consider a late bloomer. Was around 13-14 months old before the switch turned on, I was about to give up on him.
Stick in there, some dogs need more time to mature. IMO if they are still acting like pups ( chewing, jumping around, barking, digging, easily excited ) you are dealing with a pup. Let'em grow up some, you never know.

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I also have a 19 month old "pup" out of a half brother/sister cross. He is very energetic and hyper at times. I like his enthusiasm and drive, his batteries never seem to run out. He is also what most would consider a late bloomer. Was around 13-14 months old before the switch turned on, I was about to give up on him.
Stick in there, some dogs need more time to mature. IMO if they are still acting like pups ( chewing, jumping around, barking, digging, easily excited ) you are dealing with a pup. Let'em grow up some, you never know.

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Remember when you were a little boy running around causing havoc like a bull in a china shop, bugging the heck out of who ever. Patients Fisher13, patients. Lol. I know it's hard to have sometimes. But that pup just wants your attention. Bond with it, and maybe get it some bones to chew on. Good luck.

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i had a pup over the summer she was wired 440. In the kennel she would run around her dog box,her feet never stoped,she would bark like crazy if i let her,tree hard on a drag 100-120 bark tree dog but take her to the woods she would not get 20 yards from you not even if she could see another dog 60 yards away. she didnt stick around long

i have another one that is wired just as bad at a young age he would be bounceing off the kennel sides barking none stop all day. He calmed down in the kennel, but to put the gps and shock collars on he is jumpin all over the place ready to roll. He is double stylish harry bred. He wont be leaving there is a lot that i like about him.

your dog might calm down or it might not, it might make a real good hound or it might not. you will just have to wait and see.good luck

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i had a pup over the summer she was wired 440. In the kennel she would run around her dog box,her feet never stoped,she would bark like crazy if i let her,tree hard on a drag 100-120 bark tree dog but take her to the woods she would not get 20 yards from you not even if she could see another dog 60 yards away. she didnt stick around long

i have another one that is wired just as bad at a young age he would be bounceing off the kennel sides barking none stop all day. He calmed down in the kennel, but to put the gps and shock collars on he is jumpin all over the place ready to roll. He is double stylish harry bred. He wont be leaving there is a lot that i like about him.

your dog might calm down or it might not, it might make a real good hound or it might not. you will just have to wait and see.good luck

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I have a buck wild,crazy,hiper pup and not sure how to handle it.I need all the advise I can get before I loose my sanity.

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Them wired 220 suckers never run out of energy.

Best part is when your halfway through a 2hr coonhunt and the other hounds are getting tired and sucking wind, your hound is just getting warmed up and they really turn the heat on .

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I would rather follow a dog that may lapse into a coma at the tree than deal with a dog that wakes up barking every morning. To each their own, but I have found that brains and temperament tend to go hand in hand. MANY of the dogs that I have owned and hunted with that were good in a late round were very calm hounds.

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I have a buck wild,crazy,hiper pup and not sure how to handle it.I need all the advise I can get before I loose my sanity.

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I have a pup out of a stud that will rename nameless. He is out of a half brother half sister cross. I read once that tight crosses can result in a very wired hound.

He is 6 months old and extremely wired, to the point he acts like a jack russel in a coonhounds body. I have a fenced in area, where he gets plenty of exercise probably 2 to 3 hrs a day. He still wakes up barking every morning. On the other hand shows an extreme amount of drive. I have been told these types of pups that tend to be a pain in the butt, will often make good hounds because they have that extra gear. Agree or disagree?

What has been your experienced with this trait? Do you find this extra energy to be worth the trouble?

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Kind of plain and simple,every pup is different the pup might stay that way it might not,might be a nice hound and might not.its just a waiting game and just up to u if the pup is worth the wait.

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I gurantee if that pup was hear it wouldnt wake up barking!!! I hunt hard and ive had pups like that and after about a week of hunting you have to wake them up to get them to go!!! Lol even if you take them and they dont do nothing at least their out of the pen!!!

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Only time this pup barks is feed time.I have two littermates.The male is very wired but listens and learns very quick.The female is buck wild and totally ignores me.When I tie her out she destroys my year digging and running cable.Im planning on keeping both and they are 8 months old.Both act good in the woods.Just curious how to settle the crazy one down.

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MOST of the time I would agree........though I have seen a few "high voltage" dogs who never got past useless........and I will warn you that even the talented ones who "have an extra gear" are not for the faint at heart. Most coonhunters THINK they want one....but more often than not they burn out before the dog is finished and go back to the more common " coffee shop coonhunter" variety.

Most think they want to run the Kentucky derby on Secretariat.......when in truth there barely able to hold on to the carousel pony at the fair.

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that is were u need to judge the energy level. some dogs take minutes to hunt out the same amount of ground as it takes another dog to hunt out in half hour or hour. i love hunting a fast hunting good hound its alot of fun but it spoils you fast.

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Ive had some wired ones. My best dog Ive ever had was wound up tight. She had no quit. Me and a few buddies of mine tried to wear her out one season between all of us hunting her and we couldn't do it. We all took a night off before she did. The hot nights in the 2 hour hunts the other dogs were slowing down she was still pulling on the lead. I couldn't put her on the bench until she was 4 years old because of being high strung. Shes calmed down a lot but shes still got the drive. If she ever checks in(really rare) you better grab her or your walking a ways.

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I have learned that if you have a dog any dog that is for hunting or just a pet and is a high strung dog or even a calm dog, what works best for me is starting off with obedience classes not only are you building a bond with them but they are learning to obey you with others around and not just a one on one thing, but before you start any training for hunting make sure you build that bond with them , and they need more then just 2-3hrs a day of your time, would you like to just sit in a kennel all day? I know I would rather run around play with my family and be a part of it all and I would think that alone would make me "want" to work for them even harder , but if your having fun "working" it isn't really work it's more of play time or a game we call the hunt lol , so if they are the high stung ones you must give them something to do but make it a game so they are having fun and so are you but still doing just what you wanted them to do , remember they are just pups and will grow out of it some do take longer but the more time you spend with them the better the outcome will be ,just need to allways give them something to do and spend as much time as you can with them ,even if it's a ride in the truck to get some icecream, or to the lake/pond for a swim just spend time with them and they will do anything you want and they will do it with style and class!

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R Blanchfield we think a lot alike...I keep my pups in the house for about a month when I first get them and I rarely buy a dog older than 8 weeks just for that reason. It has been my experience when you have to potty train em and keep up with em all day you get to know them better and they learn what you expect out of them. I keep my pups in a small kennel in my house so they learn to sit and wait for me to open the door and they learn manners around people. But I also walk them through the woods daily to get them excersise . Im dealing with my first wired up pup but I don't mind cause she keeps me busy. But she does mind well so that makes all the difference. I take my pups with me almost everywhere I go to get them used to strange environments and people. It just something I have always did and has always worked for me

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Let me guess your wired pup is outta Prophet? Spending a lot if time with them would be fine if I didn't work a lot and have 2 kids.The mother to my pups is a mello,and layed back coon treer.Guess she spoiled me.

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The pup that started this post treed a coon his first night in the woods and has been making old dogs look bad and telling on some old ones down in sc where coons are thin and some rougher hunting !! Every pup in this litter are wired 220 plus but every one of them listens better than most house dogs and most kids for that matter !! I let my pups run every evening from the time they are weaned and give them a lot of attention!!!with that said most every pup outthere requires a lot of attention and exercise daily are they will get bored and we all know what happens when they get bored!! Raising pups isn't for everyone and not everyone has a suitable place to raise pups correctly !!with that said pups are like everything in life you get out what you put in and it's def not for everybody but canbe very rewarding experience if that is what you like !!! Shane towe owns smoke now and as far as I know there is not a stack of dead presidents deep enough to get him to part with ole smoke!!!! As a matter a fact he thinks so much of him at such a young age he drew semen offs smoke and bred is Skuna river Fred female !! And they should be born soon if not already !!!!another nice starting cross

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I would rather follow a dog that may lapse into a coma at the tree than deal with a dog that wakes up barking every morning. To each their own, but I have found that brains and temperament tend to go hand in hand. MANY of the dogs that I have owned and hunted with that were good in a late round were very calm hounds.

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Very true. A dog you can't live with is hard to justify feeding in my opinion.

I guess I just think it's important for a dog to know WHEN to get fired up and turn on that hi voltage, and when to turn it off.

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