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????? For AMERICANS????

A 3% Tax On Tea Eventually Led To The AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Now We Pay Up To 70% Of Our Earnings To A De Facto Government. We're Groped At Airports, Spied On The Street Corners, Spied On In Your Homes, Fed Propaganda By The Media, Lied To By Our Representatives, Have Our Rights Eroded, Your Currency Devalued, And Are On The Verge Of An Overt Police State. WTF Happened to The HOME OF THE BRAVE AND THE LAND OF THE FREE????

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the free and the brave are no longer the voting majority. the takers and self interest groups are now the voting majority collectively.

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EXACTLY, Why Do People Think He's Pushing Immigration So Hard, More Moochers For Him On The Voting Records. It's Going To Be A Tough Sell To Get Enough Voters Out To Overcome The Spin On The Tab Of The Moochers On The List Of Pay Outs By The Government. His List Of Lies And His List Of Directives, Have One Thing In Mind. Destroy The UNITED STATES As We Know It. We'll All Be "DUSTERS" IF WE DON"T BAND TOGETHER AND STOP THIS ASSAULT ON AMERICA. People Please Read Up On This Tyrant. It Makes Me Want To Cry, My Buddies Who Never Made The Trip Back From NAM, We Were Sent There To STOP THE SPREAD OF "COMMUNISM". NOW WE HAVE IT ALIVE AND WELL RIGHT IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!! I'M TELLING YOU PEOPLE, IF THINGS DON'T CHANGE, AND I MEAN THE GOP, IF THEY DON'T GET SOME SUPPORT FROM THE VOTERS OF THE UNITED STATES VOTERS, WE'RE DOOMED!!! ACA IS MADE TO FAIL, OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS BEING DE-VALUED BY NATIONAL DEBT, OUR RIGHTS ARE BEING TAKEN FROM US DAILY. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO WAKEN PEOPLE UP????

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I usually don't weigh in on these post nor do come to off topic section much. Now I'm neither democrat or Republican. I can make my decision without be lead around by my nose by some political party lord knows both sides have major issues. Now after saying that I believe the backbones of most Americans have went away just like most American jobs. There use to be pride in the blue collar workers regardless If you were union non-union worker. Nowadays to me it seems a blue collar worker goes to work knowing that his taxes are paying mostly for some slackers that think their entitled to government hand outs so they can live better than the people that get up and go to work every day cause they were raised you earn what you work for and nothing comes free. Its now wonder these people don't want to work with all free crap they can have and get. I don't even want start on the immigration crap specially the ones that haven't paid a dime into SS but they sure get it. You know I believe in hand ups but not hand outs. Y can't the government figure out a way to put these people on 5 or 6 year program to be able get a post high school education while working for government I'm sure highways and parks and stuff that need maintance and get them to being a self dependent person and contribute to america like the rest of hard working Americans. I just get tired of seeing dead beats. I could go on for hours but why waste my breath and time.

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I usually don't weigh in on these post nor do come to off topic section much. Now I'm neither democrat or Republican. I can make my decision without be lead around by my nose by some political party lord knows both sides have major issues. Now after saying that I believe the backbones of most Americans have went away just like most American jobs. There use to be pride in the blue collar workers regardless If you were union non-union worker. Nowadays to me it seems a blue collar worker goes to work knowing that his taxes are paying mostly for some slackers that think their entitled to government hand outs so they can live better than the people that get up and go to work every day cause they were raised you earn what you work for and nothing comes free. Its no wonder these people don't want to work with all free crap they can have and get. I don't even want start on the immigration crap specially the ones that haven't paid a dime into SS but they sure get it. You know I believe in hand ups but not hand outs. Y can't the government figure out a way to put these people on 5 or 6 year program to be able get a post high school education while working for government I'm sure highways and parks and stuff that need maintance and get them to being a self dependent person and contribute to america like the rest of hard working Americans. I just get tired of seeing dead beats. I could go on for hours but why waste my breath and time. Something needs to be done one side you have greed the other side is what can get for free. And easy to see which side has more by who's in office.

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To Answer Your ??? Because He doesn't Want Them To Excel, He Wants Them To Be Another Statistic, On The Doll Of The Federal Government. That Way, Nobody Will Vote To Cut Their Check Off, Thus Keeping The LIBERALS In Power. Here's A Little Knowledge For You Pilgrims: In Jan/09-21.5 Million People Were Out Of Work. Now It's 23.1 Million, For A 1.6 Million More. In Jan/09 Gas Was $1.89, Now It's $3.91 For An 111% Increase, In Jan/09 The National Debt Was $10.6 Trillion, Now It's $17 For An 51% Increase. In Jan/09 Family Income Was $ 54,962, Now It's $50,054 For A For A Loss Of $4,908. In Jan/09 Number Of People Considered To Be, American Poverty Was 39.3, Now It's 46.2 For A Increase Of 6.9 Million. This Is Sure Not The Path I Want To Keep Going Down!!

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Re: ????? For AMERICANS????

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A 3% Tax On Tea Eventually Led To The AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Now We Pay Up To 70% Of Our Earnings To A De Facto Government. We're Groped At Airports, Spied On The Street Corners, Spied On In Your Homes, Fed Propaganda By The Media, Lied To By Our Representatives, Have Our Rights Eroded, Your Currency Devalued, And Are On The Verge Of An Overt Police State. WTF Happened to The HOME OF THE BRAVE AND THE LAND OF THE FREE????
Let's see here…..
expanded groping at airports=W Bush
expanded spying=Reagan and W Bush
expanded propaganda=all corporate media and all Presidents
Lying Reps=majority are Republicans
rights eroded=patriot act anyone? which president signed that one? oh yeah, W Bush
currency devalued= you talking about the big bank bailout led by Bush?
police state=anyone seriously think it's any different under Obama than W Bush?
If you think the Republican party has the answers to these problems you are sadly mistaken.

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Re: Re: ????? For AMERICANS????

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Let's see here…..
expanded groping at airports=W Bush
expanded spying=Reagan and W Bush
expanded propaganda=all corporate media and all Presidents
Lying Reps=majority are Republicans
rights eroded=patriot act anyone? which president signed that one? oh yeah, W Bush
currency devalued= you talking about the big bank bailout led by Bush?
police state=anyone seriously think it's any different under Obama than W Bush?
If you think the Republican party has the answers to these problems you are sadly mistaken.



So on top of lacking backbone that Americans suffer from, there also seems to be an extreme lack of information as well as ability to think for oneself.

truly, I imagine you being a 20 year old that either lives with your parents, or in an appartment paid for by your parents. Because you don't seem to have much information to back the random Bush bashing that you like to throw around when you are upset with people bashing Obama.

Bush had nothing to to with the added security at airports. That was the TSA.

Bush signed the Patriot Act, which I am not a fan of, that was written by bi-partisan committees in the House and Senate. The bill was passed with bi-partisan votes in both houses of Congress. Also, Obama signed the extension in 2011.

If you want to talk about lying, elected officials, should I even bring up the ACA? Probably not huh?

The bailout was decided upon by a Democrate led Congress. Bush signed it. The deterioration of the American dollar has nothing to do with that. It was merely giving big banks, that made poor decisions, our tax money. The printing of money with no gold standard backing it, is what causes that to happen. Do you remember the President discussing the creation of a trillion dollar bill to pay US debt to China?

I sure don't recall Bush standing in front of our country and demanding that Congress pass legislation to limit our firearms, ammo, and magazine capacities. Even a Democrate led Senate wanted nothing to do with that (except Feinstein).

I'm not saying that the Republican party is the "end all" party that will solve everyone's problems, but I sure don't see any Democrates arguing with the President's policies that he is forcing upon masses like a dictator.

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im still laughing at the bailout of banks devauling the currency. i would love for ole truely to explain that one.

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I'm still laughing at obama sit in fron of the cameras and admit what a utter failure his great healthcare is. News obama YOUR a complete failure!

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I can only hope the uninformed who voted this puppet for a second term, will get hit the hardest on their new obamacare health care premiums! What a sad day in America, when a man who has done nothing in his whole life, prior to hoodwinking America, can dictate how our healthcare is to be designated! His take from the hard working people, and give to the bums, moochers, and leeches!

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I Hope They Get "SHOCKED" Into Reality Before Then, Hopefully Before The Mid-Term Elections In 11/2014. Without Something Happening Before Them, The Moochers Will Never Vote To Cut Their Funding!! So, We Need To Start A Grass Roots Program And Get These New Kids On The Booth Some Education About How This Tyrant Is Destroying This "ONCE GREAT COUNTRY"!!!!

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im still laughing at the bailout of banks devauling the currency. i would love for ole truely to explain that one.
I am a bit busy with my full time employment. Trust me, I will get back to explain this. But in the meantime if you don't think that the bailout of the banks has devalued our currency then you tell me what has. Or explain to all of us that in fact our currency has not been devalued over the past decade.

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I am a bit busy with my full time employment. Trust me, I will get back to explain this. But in the meantime if you don't think that the bailout of the banks has devalued our currency then you tell me what has. Or explain to all of us that in fact our currency has not been devalued over the past decade.


the banks have essentially paid all that money back in a very short period of time. Quantitative Easing 1,2,3 ect ect and all the govt spending and debt and future obligations being racked up, along with the choatic govt obama is leading is what is devaluing our currency.

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2014....

Wait til the mid terms boys, then you are going to say......

"What just happened ".........just like the Election in '08 and '12......

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Re: 2014....

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Wait til the mid terms boys, then you are going to say......

"What just happened ".........just like the Election in '08 and '12......



too bad yall aren't as good at running the country as you are campaigns.

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I Believe The Central Bank Printing Money 24 Hrs. A Day, Leads To The De-Valuing AMERICAN DOLLAR, Trying To Pay Off "o""s Debts!!!!!

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Hey truly just anwser me one question. It's not even a hard one either! How do you stand up for///justify a president that has spend hundreds of millions of tax payer money on a law that is broken before its even started?

The one thing obama has actually got accomplished (if you even want to call
it that ) is a total train wreck costing millions each and every day. Sure isn't his money hes blowing through now is it?

One thing obama has been great at his whole life is stealing tax payer dollars.

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Re: Re: 2014....

Re: 2014....

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Wait til the mid terms boys, then you are going to say......

"What just happened ".........just like the Election in '08 and '12......
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too bad yall aren't as good at running the country as you are campaigns.


Only thing the dems run well is there hand through our tax dollars.

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Re: Re: Re: 2014....

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Re: 2014....

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Originally posted by Triple K Kennel
Wait til the mid terms boys, then you are going to say......

"What just happened ".........just like the Election in '08 and '12......
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Only thing the dems run well is there hand through our tax dollars.




I forgot, the Repubs don't tax any do they, LOL.....!!!
You boys weren't complaining when Bush was spending Millions on top of Millions for the Iraq war, for what.......Nothing....!!!

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George puts 2 wars on credit card yet no blame just shows how smart the right is all they can do is blame Obama George cuts taxes during wartime first time in history while saying it creates jobs yet when he left office we were losing 750 thousand a month from his Reagan trickle down voodoo economics the right just shut down the government and then caved not getting a single thing making us pay all federal employees back pay for doing nothing you guys got it all figured out ! I know of 3 self employed people that are saving over 400 a month on insurance and this list will grow as many on here are retired and have no clue what there talking about all those on here that are not retired or that don't have employer based health insurance please step forward so I can hear from you on how bad Obama care really is !

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Correct.......

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George puts 2 wars on credit card yet no blame just shows how smart the right is all they can do is blame Obama George cuts taxes during wartime first time in history while saying it creates jobs yet when he left office we were losing 750 thousand a month from his Reagan trickle down voodoo economics the right just shut down the government and then caved not getting a single thing making us pay all federal employees back pay for doing nothing you guys got it all figured out ! I know of 3 self employed people that are saving over 400 a month on insurance and this list will grow as many on here are retired and have no clue what there talking about all those on here that are not retired or that don't have employer based health insurance please step forward so I can hear from you on how bad Obama care really is !



The right had 1 goal when Obama took office, to go Against Everything he was for....that's it.
Yes, when Bush was in 750,000 jobs a month were being lost, ......He was doing such a Great Job, .............

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the banks have essentially paid all that money back in a very short period of time. Quantitative Easing 1,2,3 ect ect and all the govt spending and debt and future obligations being racked up, along with the choatic govt obama is leading is what is devaluing our currency.
Well I am sure glad that we agree on QE1, 2, 3 being a major element of devaluation of the U.S. dollar. I think it is very disingenuous of you to not consider this a part of the bailout of our banks and our financial system. It should also be noted that the QE program has been run by Bush's appointment to head the fed, Ben Bernanke. He started the QE program in 2008 in response the Global Economic Crisis that Bush led us into. And as much as you righties can't wrap your heads around it, we are still paying the price for Bush's horrendous mismanagement of our economy. As groworg CORRECTLY points out, by the end of the Bush reign of terror we were loosing 750,000 jobs per month! This is the wreckage that Bernanke has been trying to salvage us from. The 700 billion dollars that Bush spent on the TARP funds was just a drop in the bucket compared to the 7 trillion that the Feds have had to spend to clean up the Bush catastrophe.

Just one correction to my statement above- while Bush had meant to hand out 700 billion dollars to the banks the final total came in much lower. Why you might ask? Dodd-Frank and the wonderful Democrats:
"The TARP program originally authorized expenditures of $700 billion. The Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act reduced the amount authorized to $475 billion."

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I Believe The Central Bank Printing Money 24 Hrs. A Day, Leads To The De-Valuing AMERICAN DOLLAR, Trying To Pay Off "o""s Debts!!!!!
Please note that our Fed is still being run by a Bush appointee- Bernanke. These decisions rest in his lap.

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Re: Re: Re: ????? For AMERICANS????

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So on top of lacking backbone that Americans suffer from, there also seems to be an extreme lack of information as well as ability to think for oneself.

truly, I imagine you being a 20 year old that either lives with your parents, or in an appartment paid for by your parents. Because you don't seem to have much information to back the random Bush bashing that you like to throw around when you are upset with people bashing Obama.

Bush had nothing to to with the added security at airports. That was the TSA.

Bush signed the Patriot Act, which I am not a fan of, that was written by bi-partisan committees in the House and Senate. The bill was passed with bi-partisan votes in both houses of Congress. Also, Obama signed the extension in 2011.

If you want to talk about lying, elected officials, should I even bring up the ACA? Probably not huh?

The bailout was decided upon by a Democrate led Congress. Bush signed it. The deterioration of the American dollar has nothing to do with that. It was merely giving big banks, that made poor decisions, our tax money. The printing of money with no gold standard backing it, is what causes that to happen. Do you remember the President discussing the creation of a trillion dollar bill to pay US debt to China?

I sure don't recall Bush standing in front of our country and demanding that Congress pass legislation to limit our firearms, ammo, and magazine capacities. Even a Democrate led Senate wanted nothing to do with that (except Feinstein).

I'm not saying that the Republican party is the "end all" party that will solve everyone's problems, but I sure don't see any Democrates arguing with the President's policies that he is forcing upon masses like a dictator.


Michael,
First off you couldn't be more wrong about your imagination of what sort of person I might be. My parents made me start paying rent of $300 dollars per day the day that I turned 18 ( in 1986- that was a lot of money to pay to live in an old farmhouse!). I have not received one day of free lodging in their home since.
re TSA and airport groping- yes, check your facts and history- Bush did that. TSA was one of the largest expansions of the size of the U.S gubt in the history of our country:
The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings in the Senate,[3] passed by the 107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on November 19, 2001. Originally part of the United States Department of Transportation, the TSA was moved to the Department of Homeland Security on March 9, 2003.

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