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In my original post I tried very hard to make a problem with what thought to be an overly bias judge about me . What do you instead being able to get my point out I was told repeatly get over it and grow up. So here is my real problem .

Recently at the Ga. State hunt I honestly felt like myself and my dog were judged differently because of the breed of hound I choose to hunt. As we preparing to make our first cast it was evident that what I had on the end my leash wasnt worthy to hunt the same ground as his . During the first cast the judge was 1st an 1st with a fine man holding all 2nd during 5 I ask could we move closer for my dog wasnt treed and request denied until others spokeup. When get to tree it is maybe 10 ft tall wirh NO leaves at all . During the whole 10 mins. which he gets he repatly ask me wheres my dog . I stated hunting with 2nd which left tree the whole time his dog is treed an english do is treeing with him every breath handler is made to strike or handle dog on closed tree ( 5MINS. OR BETTER) but as soon as my dog appears in the lite I am instructed to handle my dog . This continues the entire nite wanting to minus my dog for everthing possible while others hunt .

MY POINT MORE RULE INTERPTS NEED TO GO TO CAST VOTE WHEN YOU HUNTING JUDGES WHO HAVE ONLY THEIR INYREST IN MIND

TRIED NOT GET UNDER BUS ALONE BUT YA'LL WOULDNT LET ME

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What...?

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Virtually every decision a hunting judge makes can go to a cast vote, every single one.

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In my original post I tried very hard to make a problem with what thought to be an overly bias judge about me . What do you instead being able to get my point out I was told repeatly get over it and grow up. So here is my real problem .

Recently at the Ga. State hunt I honestly felt like myself and my dog were judged differently because of the breed of hound I choose to hunt. As we preparing to make our first cast it was evident that what I had on the end my leash wasnt worthy to hunt the same ground as his . During the first cast the judge was 1st an 1st with a fine man holding all 2nd during 5 I ask could we move closer for my dog wasnt treed and request denied until others spokeup. When get to tree it is maybe 10 ft tall wirh NO leaves at all . During the whole 10 mins. which he gets he repatly ask me wheres my dog . I stated hunting with 2nd which left tree the whole time his dog is treed an english do is treeing with him every breath handler is made to strike or handle dog on closed tree ( 5MINS. OR BETTER) but as soon as my dog appears in the lite I am instructed to handle my dog . This continues the entire nite wanting to minus my dog for everthing possible while others hunt .

MY POINT MORE RULE INTERPTS NEED TO GO TO CAST VOTE WHEN YOU HUNTING JUDGES WHO HAVE ONLY THEIR INYREST IN MIND

TRIED NOT GET UNDER BUS ALONE BUT YA'LL WOULDNT LET ME

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Jim
Was told not that and believe rules state must handle when told to

Also have typo english dog was never made to be handle handler did out of respect and sportmanship

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He had one us keep running he no stop watch anther one of us kept the mins. running on regular watch and he dont think he even had a pencil.

As soon as I had enough and insisted he put ? and other cast members agreed with me he change his tune .


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Virtually every decision a hunting judge makes can go to a cast vote, every single one.

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Originally posted by cody jaster
Except for a time out if dogs Could Be in danger...etc

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According to Paul Frederick the dog must be handled or scratched . The guy knew what he was doing . This cant even be questioned . When according to judge a dog comes in after tree is closed out he must be handled

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What happens if a non hunting judge gets mad and turns the card over to a cast member, and goes home!!!!!


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David i thank you could have made a complante on this guy for handler misconduct

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No, there are no exceptions.

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Don't tug on SUPERMAN cape, SWING on SPIDER MAN"S WEB and question JiM cause YOU STILL DE MAN.

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Dang what kind of dogs you hunt? I've never discriminated against a dog cause of its breed.

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When a guide says the dogs are on posted land you must call time out , handle dogs and leave there is no vote. UKC says you must follow state laws. No ? no vote. This happens alot in my area with patch woods. Dogs get were they can't be from time to time.

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The rule under a hunting judge is very simple, it takes a majority to call time out.. There are no exceptions to that rule. Not for roads not for posted land, not for nothing. There are no exceptions to that rule.

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Getting back we need more chances to cast vote when using hunting judges to insure fairness

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You can ask for a vote at any time on any call you don't agree with and it will be fair along as you are not fighting the buddy sys! In that case grin and out coon dawg them and/or never return to that club!!!!

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You are all wrong according to ukc

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You are all wrong according to ukc

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Maybe you should contact ukc and tell them they have the rule wrong . My goal which is unreachable is to put less absolute power in the judges hands and more up to cast vote . Your rite I should know the rules better but at some point as a point of interest we all take a stand for what we believe to be rite . Also you have the rite not to read any post or respond to any post on this site . WHY DOES EVERYBODY TODAY COMPLAIN ABOUT ANY OPINION THAT'S NOT THEIR OWN . I DO APOLOGIZE TO THOSE WHO ARE OFFEND BY ATTEMPT TO INJECT AN LITTLE INSIGHT ON A MATTER THAT HAS HAPPEN BEFORE ME AND WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AS LONG WE REMAIN WITH OUR HEAD IN THE SAND . THIS USED TO BE A GENTLEMENS SPORT AND BY SOME REAPONSES ON HERE AND FROM THE ONE BEFORE THIS IT REMINDS WHY I STOPPED COMP HUNTING FOR SO LONG . IT USED TO BE A GOOD TIME NOT ONE JERK TRYING TO OUT DO ANOTHER JERK .

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Maybe you should contact ukc and tell them they have the rule wrong .

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According to many as well as paul frederick when tree is closed and you are told to handle your dog you must or be scratch . But all of you still miss the point its about insuring hunting judges dont push own agenda .I could care less what the rule was . This guy constantly looked for reason to minus me . We had a 3-4 cast vote to circle a nasty viney tree he made alone and this guy continue to shine shake and try to talk the other two into changing their vote .

ONCE AGAIN FOR EVERYOBE WHO HAS BECOME CONFUSED ITS ABOUT HUNTING AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE UP FOR VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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so what you are saying is you want to change the rules to suit your way of thinking lol.

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I give up !!!!!!!!!! Its about All All members of the cast being given the chance to vote up and down on a controversy your call I'm not sure how so you'll get a table everyday to eat .

I'LL TRY 1 MORE TIME

IT'S ABOUT THE CAST BEING RUN FAIRLY

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