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I find it amazing that many of the coon hunters on this message board don't study the Raccoon (Procyon lotor)

I don't mean this as a negative towards anyone, but I look at deer hunters and they study deer habits, deer managment, deer reproduction...if a deer farts in the woods there are 12 deer hunters there to study the methane produced.....

We as coon hunters don't understand that first and foremost coon population is drive by denning sights. We as coon hunters don't understand the relationship between food source and hunter success rates. Sure, we know when the coon are eating white acorns, but what about the rest of the year?

We find it amazing that a block of timber that holds a health population of coon can suddenly appear to have never had a coon in it at all. Yet we don't think of the fact that the wet spot in the middle, that normally holds water is now DRY and has been for several months...what do you think the coon have been drinking all that time.

Am I really the only person that studies coon?

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I let my dog worry about the coons and its habits. I just study what my hound is doing. But we got quite a few coons where I'm at not much of a shortage on ringtails so its just never been much of a thought for me. I can pretty much drive anywhere within fifty to hundred miles and tree a coon in a mile block.

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I let my dog worry about the coons and its habits. I just study what my hound is doing. But we got quite a few coons where I'm at not much of a shortage on ringtails so its just never been much of a thought for me. I can pretty much drive anywhere within fifty to hundred miles and tree a coon in a mile block.

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in your LOCAL area you could put up nest boxes in your local woods, or by planting wild cherry trees for late summer food sources to carry them over until the acorns come on?

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I let my dog worry about the coons and its habits. I just study what my hound is doing.

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I tend to agree. If you want to find coon, it is really pretty simple.

Corn+Creeks+Cottonwoods=plenty of Coon to study

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I AM KINDA IN THE SAME BOAT AS ALOT OF FOLKS JUST LET MY DOGS DO THE WORK BUT I HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO PUT THEM IN PLACES WHERE I KNOW WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE GETTING ON TO ONE THEN NOT. LIKE WHEN CHERRIES ARE IN I TRY TO HUNT WHERE I KNOW WHERE CHERRY TREES ARE AND WHEN DRY HUNT WHERE LOTS OF WATER ARE JUST STUFF OF THAT NATURE. THANKS SCOTT WEDDLE

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Am I really the only person that studies coon?

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Joe,

I am hurt that you think your the only one.


Joe, do you know that a coon's intelligence level is on par with rhesus monkeys? Also, that coons migrate to and/from food sources? Or migrate to river bottoms in deep winter. Or the huge impact that round worms have on coons? Or how efficient coons are as predators?

I can't tell you how many hours as a kid that I watched several of the coons that I raised as they foraged down creeks. Do you think you how far a male coon will roam doing the rut? I know because as a teenager I would follow their tracks in the snow sometimes over 5 miles.

One of the most interesting thing I witnessed about coons is that they will actually dig holes in trees to create dens.

Have you scoured through Goggle Scholar looking for research studies of raccoons?

I have to find something to do when the snow gets too deep.

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I find it amazing that many of the coon hunters on this message board don't study the Raccoon (Procyon lotor)

I don't mean this as a negative towards anyone, but I look at deer hunters and they study deer habits, deer managment, deer reproduction...if a deer farts in the woods there are 12 deer hunters there to study the methane produced.....

We as coon hunters don't understand that first and foremost coon population is drive by denning sights. We as coon hunters don't understand the relationship between food source and hunter success rates. Sure, we know when the coon are eating white acorns, but what about the rest of the year?

We find it amazing that a block of timber that holds a health population of coon can suddenly appear to have never had a coon in it at all. Yet we don't think of the fact that the wet spot in the middle, that normally holds water is now DRY and has been for several months...what do you think the coon have been drinking all that time.

Am I really the only person that studies coon?

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I just put the dogs where I think the coon are feeding. As long as you are where the coon are feeding, you should tree coon.

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You think denning sights are more important than food ? If so how far behind is food ?

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Joe,

I am hurt that you think your the only one.


Joe, do you know that a coon's intelligence level is on par with rhesus monkeys? Also, that coons migrate to and/from food sources? Or migrate to river bottoms in deep winter. Or the huge impact that round worms have on coons? Or how efficient coons are as predators?

I can't tell you how many hours as a kid that I watched several of the coons that I raised as they foraged down creeks. Do you think you how far a male coon will roam doing the rut? I know because as a teenager I would follow their tracks in the snow sometimes over 5 miles.

One of the most interesting thing I witnessed about coons is that they will actually dig holes in trees to create dens.

Have you scoured through Goggle Scholar looking for research studies of raccoons?

I have to find something to do when the snow gets too deep.

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Larry,

Sorry I forgot about you! Okay, I'm amazed that Larry and I are the only ones that......

To answer your question(s)
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

I didn't know how far in miles, but I knew it was a "long way". I once watched a coon "hollow out" a tree that had a hole in it but the hollow was not big enough for it to turn around comfortably.....

Never heard of Google Scholar....but now I have something to do when the snow gets too deep.....

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I got permission to hunt a woods a while back that looked like a heck of a spot, corn on all sides, a little creek that ran through it, I thought man this is a great spot....Hunted it 3 times , never struck a track, on the 3rd night I got to looking around, no den trees, and I chalked that up to why those woods that looked so good on the outside, didnt hold any coons.

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Very true guys... dens are the secret. I was down near the north/south carolina border huntin with a friend a couple years ago and the coons were thin, the guy has feeders out but no coon. After a couple nights we realized the timber companys had cut down every hardwood tree big enough for a coon to climb and planted a damm pine tree. Ever find a coon den in a pine? Id bet if those guys put up some breeder boxes they would have coon again. They need dens, water, and a food sorce all in close proximity to raise young.

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Very true guys... dens are the secret. I was down near the north/south carolina border huntin with a friend a couple years ago and the coons were thin, the guy has feeders out but no coon. After a couple nights we realized the timber companys had cut down every hardwood tree big enough for a coon to climb and planted a damm pine tree. Ever find a coon den in a pine? Id bet if those guys put up some breeder boxes they would have coon again. They need dens, water, and a food sorce all in close proximity to raise young.

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A coon will live in anything. Did you know that a coon will spend all summer in a rice field? They sleep on the levees. The ones I have seen would rather raise a littler in a dozer pile than a den tree. At least were I'm from. Did you know a coon can see green light better than any other light? They do not travel more than a 1 mile there entire life as long as the food is there they will find a place to sleep. No Joe you’re not the only one that has read everything they could find on coons.

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In the cities coons live in the sewers. They also cause millions of dollars of damage moving into houses, attics, and boxed-in eaves.

Ask me some day about the coon and the crack house.

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In the cities coons live in the sewers. They also cause millions of dollars of damage moving into houses, attics, and boxed-in eaves.

Ask me some day about the coon and the crack house.

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oak ridge, you're just the guy i've been looking for. someone that knows coons. i've got a question and hope you'll answer it for me. coons make dens in hollow trees. so den boxes are made more vertical and something like 12"x 12"x24". i think a coon family would be better served with a box 12deepx12hx24w. in other words, it would be better to lay the box on its side and put the entrance in the end. the box could then be mounted on a limb with the entrance near the trunk. otherwise, a vertical den should be more like 18x 18x 3 ft tall to give ample room and that's a lot of wood and quit heavy to pulling up a tree. your thoughts?

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In Eastern Ky there are bluffs and holes everywhere but not many coon.

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I will agree with you on the study of coons .I look at as lookin at my spots for food water & cover .Not for the easy walking. And for the most part all things work out. The dog does the work,,but if you drop him in a dead zone you walk to the HOT ZONE JMO

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oak ridge, you're just the guy i've been looking for. someone that knows coons. i've got a question and hope you'll answer it for me. coons make dens in hollow trees. so den boxes are made more vertical and something like 12"x 12"x24". i think a coon family would be better served with a box 12deepx12hx24w. in other words, it would be better to lay the box on its side and put the entrance in the end. the box could then be mounted on a limb with the entrance near the trunk. otherwise, a vertical den should be more like 18x 18x 3 ft tall to give ample room and that's a lot of wood and quit heavy to pulling up a tree. your thoughts?

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oak ridge, you're just the guy i've been looking for. someone that knows coons. i've got a question and hope you'll answer it for me. coons make dens in hollow trees. so den boxes are made more vertical and something like 12"x 12"x24". i think a coon family would be better served with a box 12deepx12hx24w. in other words, it would be better to lay the box on its side and put the entrance in the end. the box could then be mounted on a limb with the entrance near the trunk. otherwise, a vertical den should be more like 18x 18x 3 ft tall to give ample room and that's a lot of wood and quit heavy to pulling up a tree. your thoughts?

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I have watched coons and other animals around me most of my life. Have thought of making den boxes but with all the hollow trees around me have not built any as of yet. Food is pretty available in the woods around home. Water has been our biggest problem for the last few years. Have really seen coon migrate towards new water sources.

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