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I have a black dog and blue dog. If I dump them together some times they will be split treed but most the time they will be together..........Now if I cut one and wait a few minutes then release the other most the time they will be split. Now who would consider them me too and who wouldn't?

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Based on the information I would not consider either of them me too dogs. Which is older and were they trained together. Of course as a pleasure hunter we dont want split trees we like to hear a good race with all the dogs together.

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The black dog is around 20 months and the blue is 9 months or so. I didn't get the black till it was 11 months and had it started before the blue. The blue started at 4 months treeing a release and treed it's first wild coon by itself just before or right after it turned 5 months.

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All I got to Say is it sure must Be nice too have so many coons that your hounds are always Split Treeing !!!

Were lucky to put up just 1 Coon in Several Drops !!

This Winter was very hard on a Very Low Poupulation to start with . We were Totaly Frozen from the End on November till Mid Febuary with a total snow fall of 68", this took out alot more coon than what Years of Distemper had done ..

What if theirs only one coon out their !!! Do these Independant Hounds Just Wonder thru the Woods and Don't do Anything ???

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All I got to Say is it sure must Be nice too have so many coons that your hounds are always Split Treeing !!!

Were lucky to put up just 1 Coon in Several Drops !!

This Winter was very hard on a Very Low Poupulation to start with . We were Totaly Frozen from the End on November till Mid Febuary with a total snow fall of 68", this took out alot more coon than what Years of Distemper had done ..

What if theirs only one coon out their !!! Do these Independant Hounds Just Wonder thru the Woods and Don't do Anything ???

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All I got to Say is it sure must Be nice too have so many coons that your hounds are always Split Treeing !!!

Were lucky to put up just 1 Coon in Several Drops !!

This Winter was very hard on a Very Low Poupulation to start with . We were Totaly Frozen from the End on November till Mid Febuary with a total snow fall of 68", this took out alot more coon than what Years of Distemper had done ..

What if theirs only one coon out their !!! Do these Independant Hounds Just Wonder thru the Woods and Don't do Anything ???

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This thread wasn't put on here to bash an independant dog or a dog that will back or even a me too dog. I put it up to get an idea of how many people want there dog to be alone all the time and what most would call a me too dog................

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Sounds to me like you have one of each. couldnt tell ya without being in the woods with them. But the bottom line is most of the time your feeding and hauling two dogs to the woods to do the job of one.

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Sounds to me that they are to young to tell any way. Heck a 20 month old and a 9 month old shouldn't be hunted togather. The 20 month old needs to be by it's self and the other one needs to be going with an older broke dog.

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Sounds to me like you have one of each. couldnt tell ya without being in the woods with them. But the bottom line is most of the time your feeding and hauling two dogs to the woods to do the job of one.

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send me the black dog and I'll let you know in about 8 yrs.

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Your two sound independent and also work together enough to suit me.
Yes, all my trained and started dogs can tree a coon by themselves. If they couldn't I wouldn't have them.
It's not a matter of having two dogs to do the work of one to me. It's the fact that I, myself, have six good trained dogs and I also have friends come and hunt. When hunting by myself I might turn out two or all six. I'd hate to have four, five or six splits I had to try to get to. Also, the people who let me hunt their land require that I kill every coon I tree. So, when they split, I only have one that I'm sure is "stay put" enough to be squalling and shooting around. The reason this dog won't pull is because he is old and nearly deaf.

When I hunt with a person that has an Independant, has to be by himself type dog, sometimes I drag around putting on my boots and stuff and tell him to go ahead and turn loose. Maybe if we're at a place where coons ought to be he won't just blow out but maybe get struck in a hundred yards or two. If he strikes close, I'll turn in one dog. Both of us thinking, now, we'll hear a race. But, if my dog gets ahead, or even caught up, his might "go silent" for awhile and then you hear him a half mile over yonder across a piney ridge while the other dog is still charging for all he's worth. Then, If my dog trees first or second it doesn't matter cause we are going to go to the closest dog first (that's just the way it is when you're really coon hunting). My buddy almost begs me not to shoot the coon out cause he knows he'll pull to a rifle. So I let him take off to his dog.

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Sounds to me like you have one of each. couldnt tell ya without being in the woods with them. But the bottom line is most of the time your feeding and hauling two dogs to the woods to do the job of one.

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Your two sound independent and also work together enough to suit me.
Yes, all my trained and started dogs can tree a coon by themselves. If they couldn't I wouldn't have them.
It's not a matter of having two dogs to do the work of one to me. It's the fact that I, myself, have six good trained dogs and I also have friends come and hunt. When hunting by myself I might turn out two or all six. I'd hate to have four, five or six splits I had to try to get to. Also, the people who let me hunt their land require that I kill every coon I tree. So, when they split, I only have one that I'm sure is "stay put" enough to be squalling and shooting around. The reason this dog won't pull is because he is old and nearly deaf.

When I hunt with a person that has an Independant, has to be by himself type dog, sometimes I drag around putting on my boots and stuff and tell him to go ahead and turn loose. Maybe if we're at a place where coons ought to be he won't just blow out but maybe get struck in a hundred yards or two. If he strikes close, I'll turn in one dog. Both of us thinking, now, we'll hear a race. But, if my dog gets ahead, or even caught up, his might "go silent" for awhile and then you hear him a half mile over yonder across a piney ridge while the other dog is still charging for all he's worth. Then, If my dog trees first or second it doesn't matter cause we are going to go to the closest dog first (that's just the way it is when you're really coon hunting). My buddy almost begs me not to shoot the coon out cause he knows he'll pull to a rifle. So I let him take off to his dog.

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I guessd im different from most guys. as soon as that blue pup treed its own coon alone that would have been it, My experience has been that a young dog will learn more alone in 30 nights than they will following an old dog for a year. Most of my dogs end up pretty independent because they learn to do it alone. Pup trainers are way overrated and moreoften than not just a hinderence in a young dog having to figure out how to work a track past a loss or how to locate a tree. Mostly what a young dog learns when hunted with a broke dog is how to hitchhike and metooooo. It all depends what you want to have in the end.

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Sounds like you have an exceptionally nice blue pup if its splitting at 9 months. Hows it bred?
Hunt that pup alone 4 or 5 nights a week with rest nights inbetween and before you know it you wont need Two dogs to do the work of one, and you will be the guy at the hunts they dont want to draw.

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Sounds like you have an exceptionally nice blue pup if its splitting at 9 months. Hows it bred?
Hunt that pup alone 4 or 5 nights a week with rest nights inbetween and before you know it you wont need Two dogs to do the work of one, and you will be the guy at the hunts they dont want to draw.

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I guessd im different from most guys. as soon as that blue pup treed its own coon alone that would have been it, My experience has been that a young dog will learn more alone in 30 nights than they will following an old dog for a year. Most of my dogs end up pretty independent because they learn to do it alone. Pup trainers are way overrated and moreoften than not just a hinderence in a young dog having to figure out how to work a track past a loss or how to locate a tree. Mostly what a young dog learns when hunted with a broke dog is how to hitchhike and metooooo. It all depends what you want to have in the end.

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I guessd im different from most guys. as soon as that blue pup treed its own coon alone that would have been it, My experience has been that a young dog will learn more alone in 30 nights than they will following an old dog for a year. Most of my dogs end up pretty independent because they learn to do it alone. Pup trainers are way overrated and moreoften than not just a hinderence in a young dog having to figure out how to work a track past a loss or how to locate a tree. Mostly what a young dog learns when hunted with a broke dog is how to hitchhike and metooooo. It all depends what you want to have in the end.

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Well I am a little lazy I guess. If I don't feal like walking and the blue doesn't go deep enough to get struck I send the black. Then I can pic them up at the other side if neither finds anything. Most the time he can find something in the first quarter or less.
If you dump them by them selves my GPS screen will look like a 3 year olds colloring book a lot of scribbleing but they don't go very deap. If I put them out together they will go more in a straight line till they hit something. That is why I hunt them together part of the time.

That is if I sit on the tail gate of course. If I get out and walk either one will go the way I walk and keep pushing forward.

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what i consider a me too dog is one that will quit a track its working to come to other dogs treed or one that will quit its track or tree to go to another hound that is opening. i have a young blue dog that is just about perfect for me loves to get split treed and will not pull his track or tree to cover another dog but will honor another dog if they are working the same track and the dog gets treed ahead of him. also if they have nothing going on i want them to get a piece of the others unless they are quite a distance away then just keep on hunting looking for your own don;t go running 5oo yrds to find out what is going on.

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what i consider a me too dog is one that will quit a track its working to come to other dogs treed or one that will quit its track or tree to go to another hound that is opening. i have a young blue dog that is just about perfect for me loves to get split treed and will not pull his track or tree to cover another dog but will honor another dog if they are working the same track and the dog gets treed ahead of him. also if they have nothing going on i want them to get a piece of the others unless they are quite a distance away then just keep on hunting looking for your own don;t go running 5oo yrds to find out what is going on.

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I don't believe you will ever see a me too dog getting split treed. Thats beter known as being independent. A me too dog will only do as the other one does and won't do anything or do very little by itself.. JMO

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Four guys went coonhunting one night at the marsh. They didn't take dogs. The had good head lights, tennis shoes, and carried hoe handles. 22s would be in the way out there but the hoe handle could be used for killin and if they got a little bogged in the mud in the little creekbeds it could be used to help pull their way across, being that it was low tide and the creeks were dry. This Marsh was mostly hard and mostly covered with short grass but there were patches of waist high grass the coons liked to duck into and again the hoe handles were used to "beat the bushes" and drive the coon out. Now these guys knew they were fit and fast and built to last. They figure they'll spot one in the marsh but surely they'll find one fishing at the river edge. Then they'll give chase and either overtake him or chase him all the way back to the hill where he being tired out would surely climb the first tree he got to. In that case they would get a 22 and shoot him out.

Well not too long into it one fellow decides that this might be more than he bargained for and starts lagging behind. For whatever reason, he decides to head back to the hill. About the time he gets there he hears one of the fellows open way out in the marsh. Then another. Towreckly, those boys sound like a bunch of geetchie gullahs whooping. He can see the headlights darting too and frow but even that doesn't rouse him to join the freakus.

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