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Location: Jodaviess Co. N.W. IL.
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ARE THERE ANY OLD SCHOOLERS OUT THERE THAT HUNTED WITH, HAD KNOWLEDGE OF, ASSOCIATED WITH E.T.C. ANY OF THESE DOGS.
McCOYS MICH BLUE REBEL
WARRESONS TRAPPER
KIRBY'S BUZZ- POSIE
JUNKYARD BLUE DAVID
RUSS TREEIN BLUE LUKE
COON CREEK BLUE RANGER
DOUGLAS BLUE GERT
HAMMER2
ADAMETZ BRUISER
PLATNERS MASH
RUSS TREEIN BLUE TOAD
GERMONS SHADOW
KIRBYS SPIKE
ADD ANY DOG TO THE LIST FROM LONG AGO THAT YOU KNOW, LETS STICK TO FACTS AND FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD POST FOR THE NEWER MEMBERS OF THE BLUEDOG FRATURNITY TO GAIN SOME FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THESE DOGS AND THE PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
LETS'S HAVE SOME FUN AND RELIVE SOME MEMORIES WITH THIS ONE THANKS, PERRY

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Location: Wyoming
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Perry,
Good post. Did you ever hunt with Michigan Blue Rebel? I never realized how much of an impact he had on the breed until I looked over some old Blue Books. I know there are a few(well maybe one) on here that will say it is attributed to Hammer II. But Michigan Blue Rebel had a hand in most of the ones you listed
(I think). I know that a good many of those on there go back to him and in turn Hammer II.

Ken Grant

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Location: Iowa
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As you know I hunted with old Mash all his life. from the time that dog was 11 months old til the fall before he died. I saw him look good..bad ...and Super. HE could wind a coon as well as figure out an old track. Maybe not the fastest track dog but he didnt make many looses. I measure all the dogs I own or even hunt with agasint the memories of the old Mash dog. When I got started I hunted with Mash and LArry in all the competition hunts so I hunted against some of the other dogs on the list. Hunted with Denny Kirby and posie a couple times. I think it was a 50-50 deal in the hunts once Mash won and one night she did but I cant be sure. You and I hunted against each other with Luke and pleasure hunted one other night with him, or it might have been toad I dont remember that either. Maybe you do,,,cold early spring night down on Larry's brother in laws place. Anyway, Mash is the one I hunted with the most. Almost 13 yrs if I remember right. He ended up having a stroke and Larry kept him alive letting him live in the house and carrying him in and out. He passed on opening night of coon season in 1994 I think it was. Larry laid him to rest the next day and that night we hunted near his grave. That old dog taught a pretty green kid what coon hunting was all about, and I am glad to say I got to be a part of it.

Marty

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THIS POST KIND OF EXCITES ME, JUST TO SEE WHO WILL ANSWER, WHAT NEW INFO WILL BE HEARD. HEY KEN, IDIDN'T HUNT WITH REBEL I WAS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL AND JUST GETTIN STARTED HUNTIN WHEN HE DIED. ONE OF THE FIRST HOUND MAGS
I EVER LOOKED AT HE WAS IN IT. I HAD A FEMALE CALLED RUSHCREEK SADIE, TOOK HER UP AND BRED HER TO JET4, ED TOOK ONE LOOK AT HER AND SAID HE NEVER SAW ADOG MALE OR
FEMALE THAT LOOKED LIKE OLE REBEL. SADIE WAS OUT OF RUSS
TREEIN BLUE LUKE ANDDUAL CH. CORY. CORY WAS A GRAND DAUGHTER OF REBEL. SHE DIDN'T STICK TO 4. MARTY, HOWS IT GOING? MASH WAS A TOP SHELF COON DOG. I REMEMBER THAT NIGHT IN MARCH JUST CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH DOGS EXACTLYEITHER. FUNNY THING I DO REMEMBER, LARRY GAVE US
THOSE INSULATED FS SWEATSHIRTS FOUND MINE IN A BOX OF WINTER CLOSE THE OTHER DAY. 86 ZONE HUNT WAS A GOOD ONE. GRNT. CAST BOTH NIGHTS RUSS TREEIN BLUE LUKE ME HANDLING, PLATNERS MASH- LARRY PLATNER MADDOG SMOKEY2
JERRY SIMMONS ADAMETZ' BRUISER-JOHN ADAMETZ. AWESOME HUNT ALL DOGS WHERE TOUGH. FOOT NOTE-DUALGRAND COON CREEK BLUE RANGER WAS A HALF BROTHER TO LUKE BOTH OUT OFDAVID . MORE INFO TO SPAWN OFF OF. PERRY

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JET4
NORTHERN BLUE CURLY
JET5
NORTHERN BLUE COONMAN-PAUL CURRIE-CANADA
NORTHSTAR BLUE STAR
BLUERUN GENTLEMAN-DREW HIM 2 NIGHTS AT NATIONAL HUNT I THINK WON THE CAST 1 NIGHT LUKE GOT SNAKE BIT ONE NIGHTTHUR NT. PLACED5TH IN ALL BLUE WITH GRNTCH. RUSS TREEIN BLUE LEAPER ALL THIS IN THE ALLEGANY MTS. OF P.A.
I REMEMBER GUYS LIKE TORRENCE WILKINSON ANDY POWELL, EDDIE GILBERT, ED MEAD, DAVE DEAN ETC. MADE THAT TRIP WITH RUSS DOWNING AND RICK TOMTER. AWESOME HUNTIN PRICELESS MEMORIES. THIS POST IS MEANT TO LEAVE NO ONE OUT. LIST THE DOGS AND ROLL WITH THE INFO. PERRY

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I hunted with offspring of Hammer II and Warson's Trapper.. They were the real deal..... Saw Junkyard Blue David, didn't get to hunt with him... Knew Torrence Wilkenson..... That hunt you had in the mountains of Pa.. Was that National Bluetick days in 1986 ??? I was there and had a great time.... Remember talking at great lenth with Dave Dean there and seeing Hammer 9 and 10... Also met Warren Haslour I believe in 82 or 83 when he had Combs Jack at stud... Hunted with Buddy Jordan's Tree Banging Rivit [remember Buddy?] Been enjoying blues for over 30 yrs. and its been a great ride..........

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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Add HAMMER V to the list. I don't know how he hunted, but he could sure throw some nice pups. And speaking of his offspring, add BELL CREEK BLUE BUCK to the list too. My uncle owned a nice dog out of Buck and I'd like to hear how he hunted.

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Perry V, What's up this is Saunders. Sorry to see you are still chasing those Blue dogs around but you were always hard headed anyway. If you ever see the light and decide to switch I might have a spotted dog around that could show you the way.
Tell Beak and Wayne I said Hi.

Give me a call I've here are my new ph# home 937 289-2709 or cell 513 284-5028. Be sure to give my new number to Beak.

By the way the best BLUE dog I ever hunted with was Goose Creek Tack. But you and Russ did have some good ones!!

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I am having another relaps to 1979 lol lol......... Ken and I are working on a deal on some pups...and I get his old Bragg / Vaughn male..He's a beauty but old 9 yrs... Couple of seasons left in him I hope... I enjoyed your post........... Wayne

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Fan of the of the Bragg and Vaughn Blues !! TREE OLD HUSSLER in Memory of DOC Householder... Rest in Peace Rev. Kenneth Adkins my dear friend !! Home Will's Creek Savage Sioux-Zee!!
Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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Location: Columbus, Ks
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Natural Blue Willy wasn't widely known but one of the best coondogs that ever treed a coon. I started hunting Willy in the hunts at 13 months old 22 hundred points later, three hunts, and 9 days he was a night champion. I sold Willy to Curt Harrington who was a great person and hunter. Curt , if still living would have many memorable stories. Curt had told me during that first coon season he had kept track of Willy's score against the elements. When hunting Willy alone he had failed to finish 4 tracks out of 102 that he had struck. For those who wonder what it takes to be a coondog. Start keeping track of strikes and finished tracks. If you have something that is 80% you are toting a fine hound. Curt told me one time he took Willy to Idaho on a dig game hunt just to tree a few coon out west. Willy treed 9 singles up 1/2 mile of a small stream. You will see Willy in a few pedigrees today. Willy was from a cross of Quail Creek Jimmy and Natural Blue Belle. I understood that Willy died with his boots on, treed on a ringtail. They get better after their gone but memories are just memories.

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THANKS FOR ALL THE POSTS FOLKS. LAURA THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AWESOME POST. CHRIS, HEY BUDDY, I'M NOT
TOTALLY BLIND, I OWN A DUALCH WALKER FEMALE AND LOOK IN
NATHEN LATTIMERS LAST AD. THE RUPERT PUP HE JUST CAME OUT TO HANOVER AND BOUGHT HIM BACK FROM ME. GOT HIM AT 8WKS
OLD LAST YEAR AT AUTUMN OAKS. ALSO HUNTIN A DOG FOR MONTE OUT OF ROCK RIVER BLISTER. WHAT DO YOU HAVE OUT THERE? ANY YOUNG DOGS, I'M ALWAYS LOOKIN FOR A BARN BURNER. BEAK IS STILL FIGHTIN CHICKENS WAYNE TO. I WENT BACK TO THE DOGS AWHILE BACK. THE BIRDS ARE ALOT OF MAINTENANCE ONLY TO FIGHT A HANDFUL OF BRUSH FIGHTS A YEAR. IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY WHEN MISSOURI WAS LEGAL COULD BE AT ALEGAL PIT IN 5 HOURS. THOSE ALBANY AND ALBANY
CROSS ROOSTERS WE HAD KICKED SOME BUTT ON A REGULAR BASIS DOWN THERE. GOOD HEARING FROM YOU. YOU BETTER START GETTIN BACK OUT HERE BOW HUNTIN, BEEN SEEIN SOME
REAL SLOBS. CATCH YA LATER. BOBCAT V

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Bobcat,I've got one called Trick she is my last one out of Jinx just turned 3 last month, leading the PKC state race in Ohio. Still have Shiver she's 7 but I don't get to hunt her much anymore, too busy training.

Also have two 8mo old females off Shiver and Troy Ferrari's Wild Style that have my mouth watering. Troy's got one out of that litter that he has been hunting alone for the past week or so treeing coon every time out and the other two male pups from the litter are running and treeing consistently. Mine will have to sit in the pen until the state race is over before I can really get serious with them. Can't seem to draw a bow tag since they changed to over the phone system its tougher. I might and come out before it get's too bad just to coon hunt, but then I'd start seeing slob bucks running around and go into withdrawal LOL. Are you going to AO if so let me know, I'll be down the road in North Vernon but I might drive up to visit.

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CHRIS,
RUSS SAID THE TAGS FOR IL. WERE SOLD OUT THE SAME DAY, EXPENSIVE TO. DID YOU COME OUT TO IOWA TO BREED TO STYLE?
WE LIVE IN EPWORTH IA. RIGHT NOW. MY DAUGHTER GOT HURT REAL BAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, HIT ON HER BIKE BY A CEMENT TRUCK. WE SPENT ABOUT3 MONTHS IN THE HOSPITAL.
WE HAVE TO STAY LIVING IN DUBUQUE CO. UNTIL EVERYTHING IS SETTLED. WE STILL HAVE THE PLACE IN HANOVER, ALL MY HUNTIN IS STILL DONE IN JODAVIESS CO. ARE YOU GOING TO SELL EITHER ONE OF THOSE PUPS? I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A HOPPED UP HOLSTEIN. MAYBE OWN ONE ON HALVES WITH YA OR SOMETHIN. MY # 5638769093 CELL#563-581-1202 E-MAIL JODAVIESS1@AOL.COM SEE YA. P.S. MESSED AROUND AND DIDN'T GET ENTERED AT A.O. PLUS SOLD WHAT PUPS I HAD TO SELL SO I'M NOT MAKING THE TRIP THIS YEAR. BOBCAT

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No way Perry you live in Epworth! I'm from Epworth, my dad is from West Union and my mom is from Peosta.

How about Oak Hill Mindy and Coon Creek Sadie of Wes Blue's.
Not that far back but will do. Met Curt harrington once along with his grandson Zane. His trophy room is one of a kind. He has Willy and 3 other of his best dogs stuffed treeeing on a full tree inside the room. That room is amazing.

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YEP, EPWORTH IT IS, BEHIND HORSFELD CONSTRUCTION ON MOZENA LANE, BILL KRAMERS PLACE. MINDY WAS OUT OF HIS BROTHER TERRY'S NT.CH. MALE DOG, CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME
ITHINK HE WAS DIAMOND JIM BRED. LIL SADIE WAS OUT OF GARY HOOPMANS RINGO DOG. SHOULD KNOW THE BOTTOM SIDES TO , MY CLUTCH IS SLIPPIN AT THE MOMENT. MINDY WAS A SLEEPER THAT WES JUST PULLED AND STARTED HUNTIN, TERRY HAD HER
STANDIN THERE WES NEEDED SOMETHING TO HUNT SO THEY WENT HALVES. ITHINK BOTH FEMALES WERE HIGH SCORING FEMALES AT THE WORLD HUNT DIFFERENT YEARS OF COURSE.
HUNTED WITH MINDY A COUPLE TIMES. SADIE WAS A BALL OF FIRE
TREEDOG DELUXE. ANYTHING THAT GOT AFTER HER WISHED THEY
DIDN'T. I'VE SEEN HER STRAIGHTEN OUT MORE THAN ONE GROUP OF HEATHENS ON A TREE. HAD TO BE CAREFUL CATCHIN HER OFF THE TREE SHE WENT INTO A BUGEYED TRANCE WHEN SETTLED IN.

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HAMMER5 AND BELL CREEK BUCK. I DON'T KNOW FIRST HAND BUT THATS WHAT I'VE HEARD TO POOLECW. NEVER HEARD ANY NEGATIVES ON EITHER ONE OF THESE. WAYNE V. 1986 PITTSFIELD P.A. I CAN STILL SEE DAVE DEAN STANDIN ON THE TAILGATE OF HIS TRUCK HAMMER10 TIED THERE PEOPLE GATHERED LISTENING TO ONE OF MANY SERMONS GIVEN BY DAVE AT A COONHUNT. I REMEMBER BUDDY JORDAN OUT OF TEXAS. GOT TO SEE TREE BANING CASEY ONCE A.O. OAK HARBOR OHIO OR MAYBE JASPER IN.BLUETICKER, NEVER KNEW CURT H. SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO MEETTHOUGH, AND WILLY SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPE TO OWN ALSO.
I LIKED THE DOGS THAT HAD SOME JIMMY IN THEM. WAS BELLE OUT OF NATURAL BLUE ROSE? THANKS GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REPLY. PERRY

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did you keep those old articles from Full Cry ??? I know there is info. in there some would like to see/know..

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Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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Location: nw Iowa
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When I was a kid we went to Michigan on vacation and stopped at Terry Warresons. What I remember was how well trained Trapper was. He was a house dog and could do tricks. Iremember Mr. Warreson putting a cookie on Trappers nose and he just sat there until he was told to eat it. He had the obedience of a border collie. my dad always said he was a whale of a coon dog too.

Tim Hickman

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Just wondering, anybody on here ever hunt with Utchmans Hawk??

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: California
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Anyone ever gone to the woods with Hammer X and can say how he hunted and what his mouth was like? My husband had a few Hammer X sons and grandsons when I met him and they were above average as both coon and bear dogs out here. They also did pretty good in water races and bench shows. We don't have anything now that shows him closer than the 5th or 6th generation.
I started out hunting around blues out of IV and V and they didn't seem to be quite as versatile as X was (I have no idea what the call names on these dogs were).

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Did Kirby get anything good out of his old female Ivory? What is Denny hunting as of late?
Perry, I know exactly where that is! I lived on the other side of the tracks north of town. I have alot of family in that area. Nauman's, McDermott's, Kluesner's.................

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I've got a ton of old American cooner mags from the the early 80s through mid 90s. I've also got some old Full cry, Prohound, and Coon hound blood lines mags too. Lots of good info and pics of the dogs we only hear about in pedigrees and discussions like this. WAYNE V., I even saw an old ad that you ran in one of those mags.

Chris

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I did advertise my old Scout dog a little back then.... He was powerful.... Not many dogs in those days showed Dean's original Hammer dog in the 3rd gen. like he did. Also Smoky River Lead and all those Bragg dogs.... Miss America, Bell, Diamond,ect.... Lots of fun and tons of coon treed, thats fer sure !!!!!!!

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Fan of the of the Bragg and Vaughn Blues !! TREE OLD HUSSLER in Memory of DOC Householder... Rest in Peace Rev. Kenneth Adkins my dear friend !! Home Will's Creek Savage Sioux-Zee!!
Yeah, I competition hunt !! All Fall and Winter long.. My Blues compete with the local coon.. My Blues win a ton !!! We use and recommend MOONSHINER LIGHTS, Peggs , Ok.

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I've hunted with jet 5 and jet 6, jet 5 is everything he was expected to be sounded like a frieght train rolling down the track

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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Intense , ran with him and Dave at the cabin many moons ago as a year old , super nice hound .

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