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"laid off" letter from a boss

To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this
company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy
has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good
news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten
your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.

However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you
decide what is in your best interests. First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts

employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there
is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by
what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You've seen
my big home at last years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons
of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life.

However, what you don't see is the back story.

I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square
foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted
into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company,
which by the way, would eventually employ you. My diet consisted of Ramen Pride

noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota

Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home
on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business --

hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a
modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove
flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead
of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling
through the discount store extracting any clothing item that didn't look
like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and
lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and
my life into a business with a vision that eventually, some day, I too,
will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am , mentally check
in at about noon , and then leave at 5pm , I don't. There is no "off" button
for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend
all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe
this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend.
There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip
like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of
that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations... you never
realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the
right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who
didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to
the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.

Yes, business ownership has its benefits but the price I've paid is
steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you,
is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell
you why: I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay
enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes.
Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes
on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then
guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and

regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most
of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000
for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada.
Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the
guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000
people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at
home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check?
Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of
this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you'd
quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who
wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why
your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the
economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly government
mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing
that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired
more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees
would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better
salaries. But you can forget it now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't
defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do
you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of America
and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it.
Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the poor of America
are the essential drivers of the American economic engine. Nothing could
be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this?

It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be
swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead
with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's
future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and
retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the
productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs
will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it
will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this
country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape
forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and
with no employees to worry about....

Signed,
Your boss

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wow powerful statement but still you will be looked at as the man. and no employees ever fill that there geting what there worth. I fill the goverments plan is to make this country in to two classes. the very very rich and the very very poor.

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I'd be lookin for a new job! haha.

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Hey boss without me and the 14 other employees you wouldn't have made enough money to have to pay $288,000 in quarterlies.And I'm sure the sacrifices that you made have gotten you a long ways but without us overspending,luxory living middle class 9(or mentally 12) to 5'ers you wouldn't be driving your mercedes or have that nice house.So maybe you should think about taking on 14 partners instead of employees that way you can all cry to each other at tax time because you feel that every one who decided to not be self employed must bow down to you employers.By the way I quit!

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Careful, if the company ain't making money, he has no reason to keep you hired! I see both sides. Can't stand an employee that complains that his boss is doing well, but also can't stand an employer who rapes the company and never puts anything back into it just so he can pad his pockets.

I work for a good employer (construction) where the two owners are on the job everyday along with the 20 employees. They keep low overhead, pay fair wages, take fair wages themselves, and always keep us in the tools and equipment we need to work with and do the job right!! It's a good job, but because of the company we are almost out of work. The bosses are bidding houses at their cost just to try to keep us employed. Hope it works! If anyone in So IL wants a customized house built, let me know, I know where you can get a deal!!

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Had suddenly government
mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing
that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired
more employees,


I wonder why the CEO's taking home millions in bonuses didn't think that way. Human greed would make most put the 288,000 in their own pocket.

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quote:
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I wonder why the CEO's taking home millions in bonuses didn't think that way. Human greed would make most put the 288,000 in their own pocket.



I would prefer to take my chances with the "greed" of the free market than the good intentions of poiticians.

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This letter does not refer to ceo's with million dollar salaries it refers to american small business as it reads (14 employees) which many struggle in this day and age.

I cant see sending 850billion out to huge corporations which will blow the money again, how will this stimulate the ecomony.

It would be better suited to put the money in the hands of american families split that 850 billion between all american households it will then be spent to pay the mortgage, pay bills and of course it would stimulate as everyone would be spending some one way or another. also that 850 billion would not be the actual spent since the government would tax what they give everyone in that check so 25% would be saved and go right back to uncle sam thus causing the stimulus to be less.

$850,000,000,000 stimulus divided between 100,000,000 households would mean a check for $8,500 per household.

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quote:
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This letter does not refer to ceo's with million dollar salaries it refers to american small business as it reads (14 employees) which many struggle in this day and age.

I cant see sending 850billion out to huge corporations which will blow the money again, how will this stimulate the ecomony.

It would be better suited to put the money in the hands of american families split that 850 billion between all american households it will then be spent to pay the mortgage, pay bills and of course it would stimulate as everyone would be spending some one way or another. also that 850 billion would not be the actual spent since the government would tax what they give everyone in that check so 25% would be saved and go right back to uncle sam thus causing the stimulus to be less.

$850,000,000,000 stimulus divided between 100,000,000 households would mean a check for $8,500 per household.



I agree with this Idea !!!

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Tax cuts and

Loosing the federal lending strings for small buisness would go further and faster toward an economic recovery than, this ridiculus pork laden so called stimulus package.
Just imagine the trickle down and up that would be created if 3-4 million new small buisness were to open doors! Not to forget all those other current buisness that would also helped.

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As a small business owner that employees 8-10 employees I can agree with this letter 100%.

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how it is..

To those who read this, you need to stop and think of how you can help your company survive.I'm laid off from work and not having any calls from the people I send my resume to.

It's a shame that the above listed scenario is a reality and not
a what if.


Great post,

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quote:
Originally posted by jtwsr
This letter does not refer to ceo's with million dollar salaries it refers to american small business as it reads (14 employees) which many struggle in this day and age.

I cant see sending 850billion out to huge corporations which will blow the money again, how will this stimulate the ecomony.

It would be better suited to put the money in the hands of american families split that 850 billion between all american households it will then be spent to pay the mortgage, pay bills and of course it would stimulate as everyone would be spending some one way or another. also that 850 billion would not be the actual spent since the government would tax what they give everyone in that check so 25% would be saved and go right back to uncle sam thus causing the stimulus to be less.

$850,000,000,000 stimulus divided between 100,000,000 households would mean a check for $8,500 per household.

The check per household would be $8,500,000,000 not $8,500. I do like the idea though!! Oh and with ONLY 14 employees why did he give letters instead of just having a "little" meeting.

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The check per household would be $8,500,000,000 not $8,500. I do like the idea though!! Oh and with ONLY 14 employees why did he give letters instead of just having a "little" meeting.

you might need to check your math 850 billion divided by 100 million is not 8.5 billion
I have tried the little meeting with my 10 employees, a couple will actually listen, 3 more will remember half of what you said and the other 5 will have no idea what you said 5 minutes later. hopefully when it is on paper they can go back and read it again if they did not throw it in the garbage.
travis s, 14 partners instead of 14 employees won't work. most of the 14 employees will quit thinking about business at 5 oclock regardless of what they are paid. if you have ever tried to run a small business you would know it takes more than 9 to 5. it will take alot of nights and saturdays and sundays. if your time is alot more than your benefits should be alot more.

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The letter is great and all, but I just work for the highest bidder, I aint married to my Job. LOL

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if it wasent for his employees he probly would`nt have a business, employers need us as much as we need them.

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Blake

Your right , I was WAYYYY off on that!! I added to many 0's. I have never had to use that many before. If I had 10 employees and only 2 got what was said in a meeting , I would be looking for new empolyees!

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we all need to be a little more thankful i think

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I wish I had to use that many zeroes myself lol.
it seems the larger companys have the better employees. when dealing with larger groups you can afford more benefits and other things. I know better hands are out there, although they seem to be hard to find.I guess thats why I still put up with the headaches after 13 years of doing this. my work is very seasonal (furniture), it is hard to keep decent hands when work slows down.
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quote:
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This letter does not refer to ceo's with million dollar salaries it refers to american small business as it reads (14 employees) which many struggle in this day and age.

I cant see sending 850billion out to huge corporations which will blow the money again, how will this stimulate the ecomony.

It would be better suited to put the money in the hands of american families split that 850 billion between all american households it will then be spent to pay the mortgage, pay bills and of course it would stimulate as everyone would be spending some one way or another. also that 850 billion would not be the actual spent since the government would tax what they give everyone in that check so 25% would be saved and go right back to uncle sam thus causing the stimulus to be less.

$850,000,000,000 stimulus divided between 100,000,000 households would mean a check for $8,500 per household.



you're right. if the government had spent that money and just given a check of about $100,000 to each working household i think the economy would have gotten a better jumpstart. most of these people would have paid off their mortgages, which would give back more money to the banks, paid off their cars, which again would give more money to the banks, and given everyone more money to pay out in retail. a lot of people would have probably bought new cars and other luxury items which would have helped industry and business.
but instead they gave the money to the very people who proved once they didn't know how to handle money. and are quickly proving again they don't know what to do.

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Why don't we just do nothing and let the economy fix itself on its own time. Save the $850 billion of taxpayer money, cut other government waste, balance the budget and start paying off the national debt. Hand outs sound great, if you're getting one, but people need to be responsible for themselves and not look to the government to solve all of their problems.

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REMEMBER that without those employees and the public spending their money, wisely, unwisely, overspending, underspending, with cash, with credit, trading, bartering or however it is done, then businesses dont make it. Businesses sell goods or services and people got to spend to make them succeed, so dont criticize those folks that had "meager" $50k jobs and spent their money while you sacrificed and built your business, cuz those spenders were the ones that built your business along with your so called sorry employees and your sacrifice and ingenuity and perseverence,,,,,,,,,remember dont bite the hand that feeds you either,,,.........i'm out....
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REMEMBER that without those employees and the public spending their money, wisely, unwisely, overspending, underspending, with cash, with credit, trading, bartering or however it is done, then businesses dont make it. Businesses sell goods or services and people got to spend to make them succeed, so dont criticize those folks that had "meager" $50k jobs and spent their money while you sacrificed and built your business, cuz those spenders were the ones that built your business along with your so called sorry employees and your sacrifice and ingenuity and perseverence,,,,,,,,,remember dont bite the hand that feeds you either,,,.........i'm out....
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Rob Ellett
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Grant I agree totally with you

And as you see by what I suggested it wouldnt be a "handout" but an easier means of borrowing for buisness which in turn would almost instantly start correcting this economic cycle were are going thru. But hey, I have been wrong before and most likely will be wrong agian. Just my thoughts on it is all.

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right on grant

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