Registered: Apr 2005
Location:
Posts: 34

How many have you been on a cast where people are talking on there cell phone? I looked in the rules up and down and could not find a rule agaist this execpt for talking to other casts. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Cambridge,Ohio
Posts: 1497

its a newer rule

__________________
Turtle Ridge Kennels
Blueticks & Walkers
Jenny Christner & John W. Clark III
Cambridge , Ohio
(740)-255-7547 Jen's cell
(740)-255-7616 John's cell

http://www.freewebs.com/turtleridge/

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2043

i went on a cast about a month ago in kenney illinois and our judge was extremely anal about cell phones. he said to turn them off and leave them in your truck.if he saw us useing them at any point he would disqualify us on the spot. no matter what.

Last edited by coonsmen on 07-14-2007 at 10:15 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2004
Location: minnesota
Posts: 1599

ther aint no rule against using them unless yur caught of talking scores or to another cast

__________________
Jesse Nappin TREEDOGG MAFIA

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

I think UKC will need to address the cell phone issue beyond what they have stated in the Advisor. I was on a cast last night where the handlers spectator was in the truck, driving around locating a dog and calling the handler to tell him where the dog was and what he was doing. This was during the course of the hunt with dogs struck in, one treed, and the clock running. Obviously, that guys hunt ended right there. Give them an inch............

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2006
Location: West Point, MS
Posts: 436

quote:

---

Originally posted by JiM
I think UKC will need to address the cell phone issue beyond what they have stated in the Advisor. I was on a cast last night where the handlers spectator was in the truck, driving around locating a dog and calling the handler to tell him where the dog was and what he was doing. This was during the course of the hunt with dogs struck in, one treed, and the clock running. Obviously, that guys hunt ended right there. Give them an inch............

---

__________________
HOME OF...

NITE CH PKC CH SKUNA RIVER ELVIS "THE BOB-TAIL DOG"

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Lexington,Al.
Posts: 459

I do not see a problem having a a cell phone on a cast as long as it is on vibrate or off. You never know when you might need it in a medical emergency.

__________________
256-436-0014 Cell

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Not Yet
Location:
Posts: N/A

They should rule it like tracking equipment. Use them when the clock is off. If used during hunt time, scratch.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Gowen, Michigan
Posts: 2375

quote:

---

Originally posted by JiM
They should rule it like tracking equipment. Use them when the clock is off. If used during hunt time, scratch.

---

__________________
Curtis Beyer
Camden Beyer

616-262-2785
Twin Oaks Kennels
SPIKE BEYER, HIS LEGACY LIVES ON!
PR' Twin Oak's CrossCut BoZo R.I.P.
Twin Oak's NextGen. Jewel
**TEAM TIMBER**
COONDOG UP*ENGLISH STYLE*
CoonDog Mafia

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2006
Location:
Posts: 6548

quote:

---

Originally posted by coonsmen
i went on a cast about a month ago in kenney illinois and our judge was extremely anal about cell phones. he said to turn them off and leave them in your truck.if he saw us useing them at any point he would disqualify us on the spot. no matter what.

---

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Central New York State
Posts: 231

Just a thought to ponder, these new Garmin GPS tracking devices for keeping track of dogs while being hunted look to be a tremendous invention. I do see that they could be an issue in a nite hunt. Apparently., you can attatch the unit to a shock collar, and then keep track of the dog while hunting. You use the unit just like a regular gps. I have a garmin gps, a rino 530 and it has been very useful in coonhuning. Before the rules change, or enough people use them, I can see that in the hands of an unscrupulous hunter, some people will use them to unfair advantage. Time will tell.

__________________
Upstate Hillbilly

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Sandy Hook, KY
Posts: 1009

guied on the cast should have a cell phone,, put it should not be turned on unless a merengecy and if it is turned on aney other time on a hunt till the hunt is fulley over ,,the hole cast shood be scratch,,phones make cheeting a lot easer,

__________________
i tell the truth about my dogs good or bad

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Greenbackville, VA
Posts: 1470

I don't go anywhere without my cell. It's permanently attached to my back pocket (or, in my husbands opinion, my ear). In fact, they will likely bury me with it. Good luck to the person who tries removing it!

__________________
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing."
__________________________
www.ansfarms.net

CH 'PR' Cox's Absolute Envy
CH 'PR' White Liar's Just A Digit
Hillbilly Bones

Gone but Not Forgotten:
CH 'PR' Cox's Sweet Mountain Magic 2005-2010

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Greenbackville, VA
Posts: 1470

Seriously though, I don't see a problem with having them with you. Just don't use them during the hunt. First off, it's rude and annoying... second it is to easy to cheat with them.

__________________
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing."
__________________________
www.ansfarms.net

CH 'PR' Cox's Absolute Envy
CH 'PR' White Liar's Just A Digit
Hillbilly Bones

Gone but Not Forgotten:
CH 'PR' Cox's Sweet Mountain Magic 2005-2010

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Knightstown Indiana
Posts: 971

i'd like to see it like the use of a tracking system, only on time outs, and or emergencies.

__________________
Sam Fox

Fox Logging
1-765-238-1694
I hunt Walkers. and a English puppy

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2004
Location: minnesota
Posts: 1599

i have other things in my life alot more important than comp hunting and emergincies arise i dont leave my cell any where i put it on silent but if it vibrates i check to see who it is all it is is something for cry babys to cry about so what if someone calls scores to a buddy will that help you tree any more coon

__________________
Jesse Nappin TREEDOGG MAFIA

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Missouri
Posts: 4321

I don't see what the big deal is in using them.

If I'm a cheater and willing to falsify a scorecard, I don't need to know what some other cast scored to do that. Thats the ONLY semi-legitimate reason I've heard not to use one.

On the other hand there are several legitimate reasons to use one during a hunt. Save gas, check on spots to hunt, emergencies, and so on.

Trying to say what and when they can be used is just going to cause problems. If I'm on the phone, having a private conversation nobody needs to know what I'm saying. But with UKC's current stance, the judge really needs to know what the conversation is about. I see trouble brewing...

__________________

Click here to visit The B&T Coonhunters Message Forum for news, views, open discussion, ads, and event winners in the B&T Breed (Registration, with your full name, required)

Click here to see my Dog List

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Apr 2007
Location: NW FL
Posts: 334

quote:

---

Originally posted by hound2
i have other things in my life alot more important than comp hunting and emergincies arise i dont leave my cell any where i put it on silent but if it vibrates i check to see who it is all it is is something for cry babys to cry about so what if someone calls scores to a buddy will that help you tree any more coon

---

__________________
I realize there are some good spotted hounds out there.. I just went black... and you know what they say... I LOVE IT!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Mar 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 335

I agree that having them in case of an emergency is a great thing you never know what might happen. I thing as long as you ain't talking during the hunt and disturbing people they are fine. JMO!!!

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: May 2004
Location: Jasper, Alabama
Posts: 173

ON A HUNT ONE TIME MY DOG HAD A COON,YES IT WAS HARD TO SEE WITHOUT IT LOOKING AT YOU BUT IT LOOKED AT ME SAYING THAT I KNOW THE COON WAS THERE BUT THE MAN I WAS HUNTING WITH SAID HE WASNT SURE SO WE CIRCLED IT.HE HAD A BROTHER HUNTING IN ANOTHER CAST,SO AFTER OUR HUNT WAS OVER I ASKED HIM IF HE REALLY DIDNT SEE THE COON WITHOUT AN ANSWER HE CALLED HIS BROTHER AND FOUND OUT THAT HE WASNT IN THE RUNNING HUNG UP THE PHONE AND SAID YEA I GUESS I SEEN IT.CELL PHONE USED ONLY IN EMERGENCY.IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE HUNT (SCORES) SRCATCHED!!!!!!!

__________________
HOME TO
GRNT. MOONSHINE'S SO. ICE Man

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Sandy Hook, KY
Posts: 1009

if you got a cell phone sneeking in to a tree getting dogs off tree,a cell phone mite not let you catch them,,cell phones on a hunt is good for 2 things a emergency or cheeting,,

__________________
i tell the truth about my dogs good or bad

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Hogansville, GA
Posts: 797

Well fellows I look at it this way. If I am in the woods and need help my cell phone will be with me. If I am in the woods and my family (which if I am in the woods I am not with them) needs help they can get me. The rules say that cell phones can't be used to call other casts durning a hunt. It doesn't say you can have them or even have them on. Common sense and making an example out of a few cheaters will solve this problem and we can go on with our lives.

__________________
All Night Kennels
James Moon Jr.
Hogansville, GA

Good Hunting and God Bless

PKC CH
UKC Nite Ch ‘PR’ Heartland Dot

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 2147

I am on call 24 hrs a day, need to be in touch,if it is a emgency, I have to go. so I carry my cell phone. The rules are there, just use the ones we have. No talking to cast members about other scores, don;t use tracking devise untill time outs, what's so hard/

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Oregon
Posts: 243

never imagined all the ways you could cheat with a cell phone.

I assumed the score thing was so people wouldn't scratch and quit because they were too far behind...after all you'll tree as many as you can, you wouldn't stop after +450 because the other cast finshed with +375 since you have to hunt the full two hours anyway. learn something new every day!

I agreed with not discussing scores before all casts in because it just makes sense...even before the cellphone rule.

I think that rule is written very well. For the reasons already given and so casts can communicate where they are going when they change spots. For instance, "are ya'll finished with cherry orchard, we're leaving the filbert orchard if you need it" etc. I hear complaints of diminishing hunting areas from all over the country, so I doubt recycling spots during a nite hunt is that uncommon. It's that or drive 100 miles to the next virgin spot.

Cheaters will cheat. Like the saying goes, locks are for honest people. Dishonest will get in any.

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Southern Minnesota
Posts: 2454

I save all my tracking collar numbers in my phone, and last saturday at a nite hunt, on time out i pulled out my phone to get my collar # and the guy yells at the judge HES USING A PHONE. lol. What would you have done? This was on time out and i was in a hurry to find my dog obviously wasnt looking for scores lol.

__________________
Brandon Becker
1-507-236-0328
Beckers River Bottom Kennels:

NiteCh Ch'PR' C&Ts Makin it Rain Hundo's

****RIP****
*GrNiteChGrCh"PR"S-N-B's Stylish Rebel
**GrNiteCh'PR' The Lady Jade
**GrNite Ch'PR' Stylish Super Sally
*Nite Ch'PR' Beckers Buckeye Wild Maxx
*NiteCh'PR' Beckers Tree Time Tom

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged