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Dentre
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Sackett and Sackett Jr.

Was any of this blood or seman collected. These two dogs probably where the best ever for the walker breed. They definetly define a portion of the walker breed today. I wish I had there blood in my dogs. Who owned them.

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Re: Sackett and Sackett Jr.

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Was any of this blood or seman collected. These two dogs probably where the best ever for the walker breed. They definetly define a portion of the walker breed today. I wish I had there blood in my dogs. Who owned them.

No. None,

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Re: Sackett and Sackett Jr.

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Was any of this blood or seman collected. These two dogs probably where the best ever for the walker breed. They definetly define a portion of the walker breed today.

DEFINE ,YES THEY DID.......BUT WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...I DISAGREE WITH YOU RESPECTFULLY......

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Re: Re: Sackett and Sackett Jr.

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DEFINE ,YES THEY DID.......BUT WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...I DISAGREE WITH YOU RESPECTFULLY......

Can you think of anything better?We want proof to prove it cause the proof is in the pudding.

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WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...THEY ARE THE REASON I HUNT ENGLISH DOGS TODAY AFTER HUNTING WALKERS FOR 38,39 YEARS ....LETS NOT FORGET RAT ATTACK..WOWW....SURE THEY HAVE ALOT OF NT.CH.AND BLA,BLA,BLA BUT THAT DONT PROVE A THING WAY TO MUCH TREE MYSELF I THINK THEY HURT THE BREED AS A WHOLE....TO BE TRUTHFULL I CANNOT THINK OF A SOLID WALKER LINE THAT I AM INPRESSED WITH AS WHOLE TODAY....SURE THERE ARE GOOD ONES IN ALL OF THEM BUT NOT IMPRESSED.......NOT TRYIN TO UPSET ANYONE BUT JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT A MINUTE...

IF I WAS GOING TO HUNT ONE IT WOULD BE FROM THE STYLISH COMA LINE...

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Re: Sackett and Sackett Jr.

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These two dogs probably where the best ever for the walker breed. They definetly define a portion of the walker breed today.

When I see Sackett JR. I think tree monsters, he produced some of the best that has ever been in the breed.

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who hunted with either of them

and what did you see them do?

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quote:
Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...THEY ARE THE REASON I HUNT ENGLISH DOGS TODAY AFTER HUNTING WALKERS FOR 38,39 YEARS ....LETS NOT FORGET RAT ATTACK..WOWW....SURE THEY HAVE ALOT OF NT.CH.AND BLA,BLA,BLA BUT THAT DONT PROVE A THING WAY TO MUCH TREE MYSELF I THINK THEY HURT THE BREED AS A WHOLE....TO BE TRUTHFULL I CANNOT THINK OF A SOLID WALKER LINE THAT I AM INPRESSED WITH AS WHOLE TODAY....SURE THERE ARE GOOD ONES IN ALL OF THEM BUT NOT IMPRESSED.......NOT TRYIN TO UPSET ANYONE BUT JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT A MINUTE...

IF I WAS GOING TO HUNT ONE IT WOULD BE FROM THE STYLISH COMA LINE...

i always heard you couldnt score them to they treed,
i guess we could buy some beagles if we didnt want to go
to them

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BEAGLES OUR SHOW DOGS......I BET I COULD SCORE ALOT OF THEM BEFORE I GET TO THERE TREE.....MINUS.

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not minus if Frank Giddings was hunting them i will garntee that!

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sackett/sackett jr.

Sackett was a very mediocre reproducer. Jr. reproduced the traits of what he was bred to the majority of the time, Rat Attack came from a slick treeing idiot female. Jr. reproduced some fine hounds when bred to females that were coondogs.

Neither dog should be considered as a foundation of the breed, Finley River Chief dogs and the dogs from the Johnson's Banjo line have contributed more to the breed than any others.(My humble opinion)
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quote:
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WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...THEY ARE THE REASON I HUNT ENGLISH DOGS TODAY AFTER HUNTING WALKERS FOR 38,39 YEARS ....LETS NOT FORGET RAT ATTACK..WOWW....SURE THEY HAVE ALOT OF NT.CH.AND BLA,BLA,BLA BUT THAT DONT PROVE A THING WAY TO MUCH TREE MYSELF I THINK THEY HURT THE BREED AS A WHOLE....TO BE TRUTHFULL I CANNOT THINK OF A SOLID WALKER LINE THAT I AM INPRESSED WITH AS WHOLE TODAY....SURE THERE ARE GOOD ONES IN ALL OF THEM BUT NOT IMPRESSED.......NOT TRYIN TO UPSET ANYONE BUT JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT A MINUTE...

IF I WAS GOING TO HUNT ONE IT WOULD BE FROM THE STYLISH COMA LINE...

why are you worried about walkers if they don't suit you. there are many good walker dogs. many more than any of the other breeds. folks get consumed by lines of dogs. say such and such line do this or tree to much. each dog is different. and they all don't make great dogs. but to say sackett jr. or rat didn't help define the breed today would be like saying lipper didn't matter either. just because joe blow you know had a crappy dog with wipeout or sackett jr in its pedigree doesn't mean the hole line or the breeders behind them didn't do a good job. on the other hand you can't say because a dog is mojo bred that it will be a winner or a good dog either. a good line i like is the wild line. they are solid and have been good for years. and mix in a world champ.

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Regardless of what anyone says....Sackett dogs love to trail just as much as some love to tree... think im crazy all you want !!

Sackett Jr produced coondogs, hunted with several off of him and they were all coondogs. He has a 19% reproduction ....and died at 6 years old in Shipshewana Indiana! ....noo one else will ever be able to say their stud had a 19% rate at 6 years old...

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seems to me that the younger generation is in love with the tree tree tree dog that seems to be all they care about whooooooo boys listin to that dog blow the top out of that tree you get there and it is no bigger then a corn stalk and then try to find a wood pecker hole and say it is a den.maybe that is why they are in love with the rat,sackett and jr dogs

i will take a track dog first then tree with eyes looking down at you.

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quote:
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Regardless of what anyone says....Sackett dogs love to trail just as much as some love to tree... think im crazy all you want !!

Sackett Jr produced coondogs, hunted with several off of him and they were all coondogs. He has a 19% reproduction ....and died at 6 years old in Shipshewana Indiana! ....noo one else will ever be able to say their stud had a 19% rate at 6 years old...

I quit getting the Coonhound Bloodlines Magazine about 8-10 years ago. If you don't mind look back in one of them. I know he was the Highest and I think it was 27% at the time before it got watered down with successive generations here later.

Sackett might have had mediocre results on Paper. Jr had a moma from a line of early treers , face barkers, as good as they would ever get by 12 months old which was not that good at all , just my opinion, because I had wasted 8 years being impressed with early starting, Started , Farted, Stumbled and Fell Type dogs. How Jr. ever did what he did coming from that Line of dogs I will never figure out. I got one from (a breeder) suposed to be off Coma, the DNA did not work out and he was off a pup off Sackett jr. I realy did like to vomit when I got the results back from UKC on the DNA. But He came along good and had sense and I ended up keeping himfor 13 years and he died in the woods hunting year before last. So, don't put too much credence nor blame on a line is all I can figure. I, myself have switched away from walkers though . The ones he threw were just too GO YONDER, crazy to suit my hunting style, not that all were tree happy puppy fools.

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If anybody has a good female , I've got a male here that I'd like to get a pup out of.
He's got JR 3 times in his 3 generation papers.

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HARRY

LIKE I SAID I HUNTED THEM FOR THE BIGGEST PART OF MY LIFE ..I HAVE ONLY BEEN HUNTING ENGLISH DOGS FOR ABOUT 5,6 YRS...STILL LIKE THE WALKERS JUST NOT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THEM OVER THE LAST 10 PLUS YEARS.....

GREAT LAKE HUNTER ...YOU SAID IT RIGHT....

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quote:
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WHAT MAKES THEM THE BEST...THEY ARE THE REASON I HUNT ENGLISH DOGS TODAY AFTER HUNTING WALKERS FOR 38,39 YEARS ....LETS NOT FORGET RAT ATTACK..WOWW....SURE THEY HAVE ALOT OF NT.CH.AND BLA,BLA,BLA BUT THAT DONT PROVE A THING WAY TO MUCH TREE MYSELF I THINK THEY HURT THE BREED AS A WHOLE....TO BE TRUTHFULL I CANNOT THINK OF A SOLID WALKER LINE THAT I AM INPRESSED WITH AS WHOLE TODAY....SURE THERE ARE GOOD ONES IN ALL OF THEM BUT NOT IMPRESSED.......NOT TRYIN TO UPSET ANYONE BUT JUST STOP AND THINK ABOUT IT A MINUTE...

IF I WAS GOING TO HUNT ONE IT WOULD BE FROM THE STYLISH COMA LINE...

Well some dog had to put some tree in these dogs. Don't cry to much when these walker dogs beat you. lol

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I have said many times on here and will be happy to repeat myself. Anybody who don't believe dogs out of Jay don't have any track, have not went to Mr. Gidding's house to hunt with him.

Frank demands a complete package of a coon dog period. It doesn't matter if the snow is knee deep, or if it is hot humid and thunderstorms blowing through you will go hunting.

Each and every time I read these post I sit here and chuckle to myself about how coon hunters form their opinions.

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quote:
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Well some dog had to put some tree in these dogs. Don't cry to much when these walker dogs beat you. lol

I don't get to worked up .I trust in what I got....AS FOR CRYIN IT DONT HAPPEN.......

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The one thing that has always been impressed upon me with the Jr. bred dogs is they are incedibly average.

IMO they gained popularity by being fairly easy to train and not bad to look at....not for their exceptional abilities.

There are exceptins, but this is my opinion....Everyone has one.

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Josh, most Sackett dogs did have better than average mouths.

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How do you y'all think a male out of x and Tina tuner would cross on a sackett Jr female top and bottom

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Sackett dogs helped to make some of the fox hounds tree. I like Jake who is Sackett crossed Harry's sister. I like Clint who is Sackett crossed Lipper's Rank's sister. Rat is going to give you more tree then anything period, but Rat crossed on Harry females gave us Sun and Bad Habit and Silk that is $150,000+ between these 3 dogs in PKC money. What about Harry crossed Abby(Rat's sister) how much have they won. Yes Sackett need to be crossed with track power. If you get to much of one thing track or tree it is a bad thing we should all be breding for dogs that do both good. Coma's Legend is throw some nice dogs Coma crossed one of Rat's sister. I don't want a dog that is treed all night with no coons but I don't want one that never trees.

I think Sackett and Rat where great studs because they put the samething in ever pup more tree if your female didn't need more tree why would you bred to them?

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