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Virgil
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Nocturnal Nailor Dogs

What is this line known for?? For example Sacket dogs are know for tree power, Clover for tracking ability, etc. What are the Nailor dogs known for??

Reason I ask is I am looking at some possible studs to breed a female to and Nailor is in there a couple times on a few of the studs. Just wondering what I would be getting into with that blood.

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Ive owned 3 dogs straight out of nailor and they all had one thing in common and that being they were ground pounders. One of them was out of a nitro female and he was hot nosed but the other 2 could work up a cold track.. They were all pretty accurate.

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Ground pounders? Never heard that term, what does it mean

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Ground pounders? Never heard that term, what does it mean


Means they can work up an old bad track and put a coon on the end of it without taking half the night.

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Most of the good nailor dogs I have been in the woods with were stay put tree dogs. They might not have been the hardest tree dog out there but they weren't going anywhere regardless of what was going on around the tree. I would describe most of the good ones i've hunted as being decent track dogs but where they really have excelled has been putting a coon in the tree.

I also own a nitro dog. My nitro dog is a solid track dog when hunted up and he's a TREE DOG. Definitely the hardest tree dog i've ever been in the woods with but he won't back a dog. He has sackett Jr. 3x and Nailor 2x.

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truthfully they were known for lazy close range dogs used in the mountains but HARD tree dogs. They will look like a million dollars when they want but if they dont want to go hunting you cant make them... They get this from rattler and some arent anything like i described. I guess it all depends on the female you breed them to. Thats probably why so many people crossed them on lipper females.

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Thangs for the info. That is the stuff I was looking for.

What about smarts. Do these dogs typically have good kennel manners and sense about them when it comes to leading, loading, etc. I know some of this is in training but I have come across some lines of dogs that can't be broke from kennel barking, pulling like a mule when led, etc.

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Mine have all been very smart dogs. They can sure be hard headed at times but they have a head full of sense. Mine get deep in a heartbeat and have a ton of hunt in them but if they don't want to go for some reason you aren't going to make them.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Means they can work up an old bad track and put a coon on the end of it without taking half the night.

i got on that will do the same thing ,also a great layup dog ,saw this dog do some things that made my jaw drop sometimes

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I always understood the term"ground pounder" to be a dog thats spends too much time on the ground....another term for blueticking pretty much

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I always understood the term"ground pounder" to be a dog thats spends too much time on the ground....another term for blueticking pretty much


Nahh that's just known as blueticking it

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good color
loud
stay put treedogs
clean treedogs(didn't jump or chew)
tight mouth on track but not silent
not bad trashy
did not hunt on the run
could waller a bad track too much for me
could take fang pressure and give some back
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I'm liking everything other than what I am hearing about the bad tracks. Something I can't stand.

Is this a real common trait or something that pops up time to time like it does in all lines of dogs.

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Ground pounding is when they start at the coldest end of the track and never pick thier nose up off the track until theyre so stretched out on the tree that thier on thier back tiptoes then they locate and start treeing.. Dogs do it a lot down here in Ga when its dry in the summer.. So basicly no track drifting and only tree when they are positive the coon is there.. Hope this helps sum it up haha

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i always thought ground pounding was working a track to death. aka blueticking.

i've got a female thats double nailor on the bottom i think she shows alot of nailor traits. hard tree dog sometimes a good track dog. sometimes she shows a little streak of laziness but she hasnt done that for a while. and she just up and falls treed without barking on the ground alot of times. whens she's treed right she can take all the pressure you can give her.

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Only one I hunted with is the Nailors Southern Country Rock (off Nailor Semen) dog and he is a get gone get treed dog with style. Seen him on the WMA half way through season after the coons been getting hammered. He is a nice dog thats throwing some nice dogs. Jake Garner owns him and will tell you the ins and outs of him and I am sure take you hunting with Rock and his offspring. He's got one right now he is liking alot..all are young with 2 years being the oldest but they have already done a good bit of winning. He has a few that are already NTCH and GRNTCH and several with wins out of him.

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I always understood the term"ground pounder" to be a dog thats spends too much time on the ground....another term for blueticking pretty much

thats what I had thought it was too lol

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i had a grandpup that was ill.i not saying it was brought out because of nailor but i put him back to mother earth jmo

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thats what I had thought it was too lol
Thats exactly what it means. I was just trying to explain it nicely.
This is a trait often found in Skuna River Fred dogs too.

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fred

i almost killed fred in a swamp close to here man i was glad to see him go north when bryan gray came and got him i called him stand on his head fred

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Lol Brian told me once he got on old Fred he was nice. Ironic part about it is Fred produced more tree dogs than anything

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got on himonce here a found down the road in someone elses dog house

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Lol Brian told me once he hunted Fred in a 2 night hunt said ran the entire two hours on Friday and hunted him Saturday and he scored 1025+ with him

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The Valley Creek Faith dog we have is off fred and she stands on her head one night and the next night she may tree a truck load of coons but shes almost 100% accurate

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good color
loud
stay put treedogs
clean treedogs(didn't jump or chew)
tight mouth on track but not silent
not bad trashy
did not hunt on the run
could waller a bad track too much for me
could take fang pressure and give some back
laid back in the yard


My gyp out of Nailors Southern Rock is just as described above but she want say a word on track,hot noised but when she hit the tree its a 150 barks a min up on the tree clean an pretty head back and you have to drag her away smart as a whip but like said before if she dont feel like going shes not going but when she goes look out and bring your gun.LOUD LOUD LOUD and did I say LOUD!!!!

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