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What is the best testing method to assure that a potential stud is not a carrier?

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Genetic testing . Check with EMBARK

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Females carry defect too.

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Full thyroid panel through vet. Embark is a joke, most of their tests are generic and not breed specific.

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Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Whether someone can admit it or not, they all have the problem, it didn’t start recently !

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Yep, you made my point! It’s not new , 10 cent pill twice a day is cheap to have a good dog!

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It’s a genetic fault and is carried from one generation to the next. It can be treated with what was an inexpensive oral medication back in the 1980’s. It was 10 cents a day then.

I had a daughter of Vaughn’s Mack II and a Vaughn blooded female that had this issue. Over the years there were several dogs that I knew from the bloodline locally that had this problem. They didn’t do well in cold weather with this condition and several died in the winter months between the ages of 6 and 8 years old. At the time the guys I knew that owned these dogs had no clue what their dogs died from.

I put the one I had down for other reasons. She was making a decent coon dog but was possessive at the tree with other dogs and was mean. I don’t tolerate that behavior and I personally believe that it too is a genetic fault that gets passed on to progeny.

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So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?

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Before testing they were considered lazy dogs and eliminate them from the breeding pool. Now we give them pills, they win hunts, and we breed them.

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So who has a stud that isnt a carrier?

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I will make this statement from personal experience and a lot of money spent (my money) to find answers. I cannot express it enough and people say they hear you and agree, but just continue to give thyroid pills because it’s easy and cheap. MOST OF THESE DOGS ARE NOT TRUE “THYROID DOGS”, I am willing to bet very few really are! A simple T4 test will not determine if it is a “thyroid dog”. You must do a full panel to see if all other variables and hormones are in normal ranges. Research thyroid sick syndrome and other possible stresses your dogs system could be fighting. JMO

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Good advice!

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You are 100% correct Sonny, Hypothyroidism is not near as common as people seem to think and is commonly misdiagnosed. Excellent post!

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I will make this statement from personal experience and a lot of money spent (my money) to find answers. I cannot express it enough and people say they hear you and agree, but just continue to give thyroid pills because it’s easy and cheap. MOST OF THESE DOGS ARE NOT TRUE “THYROID DOGS”, I am willing to bet very few really are! A simple T4 test will not determine if it is a “thyroid dog”. You must do a full panel to see if all other variables and hormones are in normal ranges. Research thyroid sick syndrome and other possible stresses your dogs system could be fighting. JMO

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