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trevor0432
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Kennel cough

Besides going to the vet for the shot, is there anything I can give a 9 week old puppy to supress kennel cough?

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You don't want to suppress it, you want to kill it with antibiotics. Unfortunately thanks to our government that knows so much more than we do, you have to have vet or Dr's prescription to get them now.

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Kennel cough is basically a canine common cold. It mutates yearly. Vaccinations will only cover current strains in your area and even then it doesn't always work. This is a conversation we have with my vet every year.
Years ago, one of my show dogs got it, sort of. He coughed once. Exposed the entire house before he had his one cough. 10 days after his exposure, all my dogs except the unvaccinated got it. Yes that is correct. My older dogs who were routinely vaccinated got it the worst, one even had pneumonia.
Talking with my vet, we no longer give it to anyone. Have only had one case of it since then and it affected two dogs in the household.
KC can be both bacterial but mostly viral, therefore unless it turns into something else, antibiotics aren't worth it.
Recently there has been a strain going around that tests clear of KC but has all the symptoms. Local boarding and daycare facilities in my area have all reported it. And all these dogs have to be up to date on KC vaccinations in order to go to these places.
So isolate any dogs that are symptomatic, same with any dogs exposed. Use an over the counter cough suppressant(make sure it's not sugar free or doesn't contain pain relievers.) If it gets worse, to the vet for xrays to rule out anything else.

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quote:
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You don't want to suppress it, you want to kill it with antibiotics. Unfortunately thanks to our government that knows so much more than we do, you have to have vet or Dr's prescription to get them now.


Fish antibiotics can still be bought…i always keep a supply of the various types of antibiotics…

They can be bought from Amazon and other websites…

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Originally posted by fogebotom
Kennel cough is basically a canine common cold. It mutates yearly. Vaccinations will only cover current strains in your area and even then it doesn't always work. This is a conversation we have with my vet every year.
Years ago, one of my show dogs got it, sort of. He coughed once. Exposed the entire house before he had his one cough. 10 days after his exposure, all my dogs except the unvaccinated got it. Yes that is correct. My older dogs who were routinely vaccinated got it the worst, one even had pneumonia.
Talking with my vet, we no longer give it to anyone. Have only had one case of it since then and it affected two dogs in the household.
KC can be both bacterial but mostly viral, therefore unless it turns into something else, antibiotics aren't worth it.
Recently there has been a strain going around that tests clear of KC but has all the symptoms. Local boarding and daycare facilities in my area have all reported it. And all these dogs have to be up to date on KC vaccinations in order to go to these places.
So isolate any dogs that are symptomatic, same with any dogs exposed. Use an over the counter cough suppressant(make sure it's not sugar free or doesn't contain pain relievers.) If it gets worse, to the vet for xrays to rule out anything else.



When I read you post I immediately thought about the Covid vaccines…you said that all the dogs vaccinated for
Kennel cough got infected with it and the dogs that didn't have the vaccinations didn't get sick with KC…and one of the dogs actually got pneumonia…

I am thinking on what is possibly happening with the KC vaccine is the same as what I've read about the covid vaccine…what I've read is controversial and the Drs. who have seen this and developed theories and connected the dots are probably labeled as conspiracy theorists…
I might not have understood all I read but I will post it and you can take it with a grain of salt…

The covid virus has a spike protein that penetrates our cells and causes the infection…the vaccine has a partial spike protein and I assume our immune system is being trained to recognize this spike protein to respond and eradicate the virus based on the partial spike protein that was introduced in the vaccine…
The thinking is that the partial spike protein from the vaccine sticks around too long in our system before it is expelled…the extended time is long enough for our immune systems to get used to the spike protein and when a person who comes in contact with the virus the immune response is weak and that has caused some folks to get very sick with covid to include death for some…

So…something similar could be happening with the KC vaccines…

On Kennel Cough…i let it run it course and it is very contagious…i keep all my dogs kenneled until it runs it's course…if a secondary infection sets in I put the dog on antibiotics…of all the years I've owned dogs I think I've had it in my kennels 2 or 3 times…

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Originally posted by Reuben
When I read you post I immediately thought about the Covid vaccines…you said that all the dogs vaccinated for
Kennel cough got infected with it and the dogs that didn't have the vaccinations didn't get sick with KC…and one of the dogs actually got pneumonia…

I am thinking on what is possibly happening with the KC vaccine is the same as what I've read about the covid vaccine…what I've read is controversial and the Drs. who have seen this and developed theories and connected the dots are probably labeled as conspiracy theorists…
I might not have understood all I read but I will post it and you can take it with a grain of salt…

The covid virus has a spike protein that penetrates our cells and causes the infection…the vaccine has a partial spike protein and I assume our immune system is being trained to recognize this spike protein to respond and eradicate the virus based on the partial spike protein that was introduced in the vaccine…
The thinking is that the partial spike protein from the vaccine sticks around too long in our system before it is expelled…the extended time is long enough for our immune systems to get used to the spike protein and when a person who comes in contact with the virus the immune response is weak and that has caused some folks to get very sick with covid to include death for some…

So…something similar could be happening with the KC vaccines…

On Kennel Cough…i let it run it course and it is very contagious…i keep all my dogs kenneled until it runs it's course…if a secondary infection sets in I put the dog on antibiotics…of all the years I've owned dogs I think I've had it in my kennels 2 or 3 times…




Actually it is similar in how it changes just like Covid as well as Influenza. Each year it mutates and changes, that's why it's so hard to vaccinate for it.

Of interest, after this post went up, sorry UKC, but AKC sent out an email to all show chairs and trial hosts. Seems there is something going around that they are calling Canine Respiratory Infectious Disease, similar to Kennel Cough, but will show negative on testing, very similar symptoms and yes, they are considering it viral so antibiotics aren't useful unless it goes into pneumonia. They are recommending 30 day quarantine of dogs after symptoms resolve. Scary stuff.

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