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4 dog cast.
Dog A struck for 100, B for 75, and C for 50.
Dog C declared treed for 125. Dogs A and B each treed for 25.
When cast arrives at tree, Dogs B, C, and D are showing treed and are handled. Dog A is minused 25 for leaving tree. Dogs B and C receive plus points because coon is found in tree.

What should happen with dog D?

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D is minuses next available tree point

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Originally posted by lukeduke73
D is minuses next available tree point

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rule 4d. Dog(s) treeing but not declared treed when
judge arrives receives minus strike points if coon is seen.

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Originally posted by lukeimhof
rule 4d. Dog(s) treeing but not declared treed when
judge arrives receives minus strike points if coon is seen.

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dog must be struck or he will get minused for not striking either way hes getting minused


rule 2a.

For dog not declared struck on
third bark on first offense; judge shall issue warning and ask for call. Dog must be
declared struck on next bark. Otherwise; if not declared struck on next bark, dog
to be minused available strike position and assigned that position on scorecard.
On second offense; judge shall minus the available strike points and ask for a call
on next bark. Otherwise; dog shall be scratched if not declared struck on next
bark. On third offense; the dog is scratched.

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Originally posted by lukeimhof
dog must be struck or he will get minused for not striking either way hes getting minused


rule 2a.

For dog not declared struck on
third bark on first offense; judge shall issue warning and ask for call. Dog must be
declared struck on next bark. Otherwise; if not declared struck on next bark, dog
to be minused available strike position and assigned that position on scorecard.
On second offense; judge shall minus the available strike points and ask for a call
on next bark. Otherwise; dog shall be scratched if not declared struck on next
bark. On third offense; the dog is scratched.

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i feel he needs to take his minus he knew that dog was opening and was trying to get away with not calling his dog.

we need Allen or Trevor to chime in and educate us on this

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Dog D should have been struck in when he was heard opening but since he was shut out on the strike and he is on the tree that he was shut out on his strike points are deleted.

If the tree was slick or had off game minus tree points would have been assigned. Since there was a coon scored and the tree was plussed dog D gets nothing on tree and his strike points were deleted due to being shut out on strike so he gets nothing, plus or minus.

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Originally posted by Bill(Chew)
Dog D should have been struck in when he was heard opening but since he was shut out on the strike and he is on the tree that he was shut out on his strike points are deleted.

If the tree was slick or had off game minus tree points would have been assigned. Since there was a coon scored and the tree was plussed dog D gets nothing on tree and his strike points were deleted due to being shut out on strike so he gets nothing, plus or minus.

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What happens to D.... nothing.

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I was judging this cast. Nothing happened to dog D. We scored the tree and recast. The way I see it, that was the only option. I had gotten differing opinions and just wanted to see how you guys saw it.

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Originally posted by Bill(Chew)
Dog D should have been struck in when he was heard opening but since he was shut out on the strike and he is on the tree that he was shut out on his strike points are deleted.

If the tree was slick or had off game minus tree points would have been assigned. Since there was a coon scored and the tree was plussed dog D gets nothing on tree and his strike points were deleted due to being shut out on strike so he gets nothing, plus or minus.

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This cast consisted of 4 male walker dogs. 3 dogs were declared treed and there were 3 dogs showing treed when the cast arrived. The judge didn't know which dog was which until they were handled. At that point it was evident what had happened but the dogs were already on the leash. Warning was given to handler but he wasn't asked to strike his dog.

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Originally posted by Tillery
This cast consisted of 4 male walker dogs. 3 dogs were declared treed and there were 3 dogs showing treed when the cast arrived. The judge didn't know which dog was which until they were handled. At that point it was evident what had happened but the dogs were already on the leash. Warning was given to handler but he wasn't asked to strike his dog.

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There ya go. Sometimes you have to have been there to fully understand the scenario. It's easier to play push button judge and jury.

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