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Question I think I already know the answer....

My 2 year old female attacked another dog at the tree last night. I've had her out several times with several other dogs and never seen her do this. She started if for sure. Any way to break it early before it gets out of hand, or is it time to schedule a meeting with the good lord above? Only reason I'm asking is because I've never actually seen or had an aggressive female.

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Re: Question I think I already know the answer....

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My 2 year old female attacked another dog at the tree last night. I've had her out several times with several other dogs and never seen her do this. She started if for sure. Any way to break it early before it gets out of hand, or is it time to schedule a meeting with the good lord above? Only reason I'm asking is because I've never actually seen or had an aggressive female.

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I would contact Wild Willy. He has a method that works.

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I hope she isn't but can say this: I haven't seen many females that were aggressive but those that were turned out to be REALLY bad. An aggressive male as a rule won't bother a female but an aggressive female is going to run everything off that will leave. Most of the time, a male won't fight back unless he's that way. Some females will fight back; others will just leave. Personally, if she can't break her; there is no way I'd ever take a chance on her being bred. The trait is definitely hereditary. 2 of the meanest females I ever saw were littermates.

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I hope she isn't but can say this: I haven't seen many females that were aggressive but those that were turned out to be REALLY bad. An aggressive male as a rule won't bother a female but an aggressive female is going to run everything off that will leave. Most of the time, a male won't fight back unless he's that way. Some females will fight back; others will just leave. Personally, if she can't break her; there is no way I'd ever take a chance on her being bred. The trait is definitely hereditary. 2 of the meanest females I ever saw were littermates.


I use to believe the same thing. Man needs to contact Wild Willy. If Willy would have raised the dog the dog would have never done that. Willy can rehabilitate a bad tree aggressive dog to move away from trouble. But I disagree it’s heriditary as a matter of fact I know it’s not. I’ve had several dogs that didn’t have a mean hair on them until they got treed. Those dogs are not genetically mean. He’s saved hundreds of dogs from the dirt nap with this problem.

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See I was always under the impression that it was hereditary as well. But, either way, I sent a message to that wild will fella. Thanks for your help guys!

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When you see a stud dog that most of his pups being ill; how can it NOT be genetic? I could see it if the pups are hunted with other dogs that are rough but sometimes they aren't.
In the case of the littermate sisters, they only hunted together when they drew out in same cast....once. But both were mean to the bone.

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When you see a stud dog that most of his pups being ill; how can it NOT be genetic? I could see it if the pups are hunted with other dogs that are rough but sometimes they aren't.
In the case of the littermate sisters, they only hunted together when they drew out in same cast....once. But both were mean to the bone.



Sometimes it is genetic. How come most dogs that are tree aggressive don’t start out that way? If you take the best dogs in the country and put them in a pen together throw a steak in the pen. If they fight over it are they mean? If me and you hunt tonight and our hounds tree together and don’t fight, but if we shoot the coon out and walk away what will eventually happen? So if they fight over the coon once it’s established as food are they mean?

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Might be why dogs that are hunted in the hunts a lot become dead loners they get tired of being chewed on jmo.


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Willy

Any word on the mans book that's spose to be coming ??

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wild willy is the place to go!!..i have for 1 had a male that was aggresive..i was ready to shoot.sent him to wild willy he did an amazing job with him!i am speaking from first hand experiance!you can ask him about yukon.as far as his book goes i think he is wrapping up the viedo part of it.good luck!!

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Re: Willy

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Any word on the mans book that's spose to be coming ??


It’s pretty much done. He’s doing videos to add to the book.

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If we have a method to stop it before it starts why does it matter if it's hereditary?

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Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..

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Sometimes it is genetic. How come most dogs that are tree aggressive don’t start out that way? If you take the best dogs in the country and put them in a pen together throw a steak in the pen. If they fight over it are they mean? If me and you hunt tonight and our hounds tree together and don’t fight, but if we shoot the coon out and walk away what will eventually happen? So if they fight over the coon once it’s established as food are they mean?


This ^ I always tie dogs back from the tree when I am going to shoot one out every dog gets some fur one at a time and when I say dead coon they drop it to many coon fights IMHO make mean dogs , my pot lickers catch enough coon on the ground I do not worry about do they really know what a coon is.

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Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..
Are you comparing giving a sick dog medicine to training one to act like you want it to act?

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Wow!! Why would a person consider a man made method Vs. Heredity? I can give a pill for thyroid also but I'd rather have 1 didn't need it. It's similar to guys using training to make dogs independent that weren't that way naturally..


Its a man made method to fix a man made problem.


I'm skeptical of everything and figured all these folks talking about what Willie could do might have been a little full of it. Until I seen him help a guy break a 3 year old dog from chewing at the tree over the phone. A dog that chewed so bad it would stop barking for several min at a time. That was something I was always told by the experts couldn't be broke. Much less over the phone. None of us like to admit that there are people that just know way more than we do about something we fancy our self's as experts on.

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I have a friend that tried willies method on a dog and it didn't work on his dog. Will his method work? Yes will it fix any and all problems? No.
Will I buy his book when it is available? Most likely

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If the problem is man made, it can be fixed. If it is a physical problem then medicine can fix it. If it is a defect in his/her genes, it can't be fixed. Every dog and every problem is different. Buddy of mine called Willy and he helped him a bunch "over the phone".

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I can fix a mean dog where it will never do it again.



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Tarbaby, I bet the same cure works for treeing possums also and is quick and cheap.

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In a perfect world I can trust a dog not to back on a possum but I could never trust a mean dog to not be mean if put in a situation that somthing pulled hair and started it most dogs can see their masters light coming a long ways some even learn to fling ivory in stealth mode. I breed my own dogs and it is trait that can be inherited jmo.



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Are you comparing giving a sick dog medicine to training one to act like you want it to act?
I'm saying flaws in a dogs DNA shouldn't be overlooked. Nothing wrong with giving a dog the opportunities to do what comes naturally, but unfortunately this dog is ill. Can it be fixed? Possibly. Should she have the opportunity to reproduce? NO..

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[B]Its a man made method to fix a man made problem.


B]
Attacking another dog at the tree unprovoked is not a man made problem.

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I have a friend that tried willies method on a dog and it didn't work on his dog. Will his method work? Yes will it fix any and all problems? No.
Will I buy his book when it is available? Most likely

I know people that tried to teach their dog to sit and it didn't work.

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