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dairyman
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Why don't you see more Plotts?

Always liked the story behind plott hounds. Why aren't they more popular? Do they not fair as well in our current competition format? I don't think I've ever been in the woods with one

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I think the reason you dont see them much in competition is because they are bred to be pack hunters.

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Plott

Everyone I've ever been in the woods with which was Brent Zink's dogs and breeding and John Walkups dogs were tough and could win and has won in competition.

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Plotts

John's Buckeye Bud dog won the PKC World hunt a few years back and I Remember when Kansas Sizzlin Heat won the UKC World Hunt. I forgot to mention the Hatchet Mountain Plotts from a few years back. I had a nice one out of Doc & Spider they were both Grand Nite dogs.

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If you see Bill Herrell at a hunt go look at the dog he's hunting, then you be able to say you've seen a good one. He was 16 seconds from making the final 4 at the world hunt 4 or 5 years ago with Mis t

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There's a few Plotts on this side of PA. Paul Smithers has a male he competes with at bench shows and hunts.

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Plotts do how you train them if you hunt them by there self all the time they don't pack much if you hunt them with dogs all of a time they pack . I own a a good one ,when he was young I would put him up against anything in the country and you can ask around about that . if I didn't have three kids and coach some of there sports they played who knows what we could have one but I would not trade what I did for all the money in the world . I own GRNT CH Carr's Redwood Skid

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H. L. Meyer
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A good one

Do yawl remember the Plot Female by the named of Annie huh she won quite a bit, the Purina race and the World Show just to name a few.

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We do okay with them in competition hunts. A couple of ours had cast wins in pkc ukc and chkc this last year. They win some nights and lose some nights just like all the other breeds. Brent Zink's dogs have always done well in competition. I think zbar was final 4 or won SS in like 09. Which is what most of our stuff goes back to. We don't breed them to pack. And we try to keep ours in coon hunters hands. We get alot of calls to use them for bear dogs and hog dogs. Most of the guys who hunt hogs and bears do not care if they pack.

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There was a guy at a UKC hunt in Bryant Indiana that I went too. Don't know his name offhand but he had a plott dog that wasn't quite 2 years old. I got to talking to him and he said he was hoping to finish him that night. I said to Nite champion? He said no, that little plott dog had 4 wins towards grand and wasn't 2 years old. I believe he finished that dog that night too.

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There was a guy at a UKC hunt in Bryant Indiana that I went too. Don't know his name offhand but he had a plott dog that wasn't quite 2 years old. I got to talking to him and he said he was hoping to finish him that night. I said to Nite champion? He said no, that little plott dog had 4 wins towards grand and wasn't 2 years old. I believe he finished that dog that night too.


That was probably the logan dog. He won the purina finals hunt this past year too.

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I've wondered about that also, my thoughts are it's a couple things, first a numbers game, outnumbered at least 50 to 1 which shouldn't matter If you have a good one. Second, the ones I've owned,, you'll see the coon 90 percent plus when they tree, unless it's a den, they're not fast enough, they haven't figured out how to beat the coon to the tree. Lol

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I hunted plotts for 20 years and the reason you don't see more of them at the hunts is because the don't reproduce (from my experience) a high percentage of good dogs. When you do have a good one, they're tough to beat!

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I see lots of Plotts out pleasure hunting. But you don't see many Plott owners that are competition hunters/handlers. I think the reason that you don't see more of them in comp hunts has more to do with the owners than the dogs.

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There is a man from mendon Ohio Doug not sure of his last name he has a granite named cash not sure of the breeding but I hunted with the dog several nights almost always by his self and has the meat I definitely would feed him

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I occasionally bump into a guy hunting plots while pleasure hunting .his dogs always seem more than capable of winning hunts .i know he has placed high in a world hunt or two ,but I don’t think he has competition hunted for a while .last time I seen him he said he just had a pup and I think that was his 4th or 5th generation of his own dogs.

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Cole run

The man name Doug Derossett Zink’s bayou cash was his outfit one nicest dogs I seen go.

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I owned one from the famous Butch and Jill cross many moons ago. If memory serves me correctly Everett Weems was responsible for that line of plots and I believe were mostly bred for bear. If Fielder reads this maybe he will set me straight. I hunted with a couple good ones from the cross but mine did not play well with others and was put down.

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I see lots of Plotts out pleasure hunting. But you don't see many Plott owners that are competition hunters/handlers. I think the reason that you don't see more of them in comp hunts has more to do with the owners than the dogs.


I think you are spot on. I know of like 3 people in all of Mississippi including myself that comp hunt plotts.

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Re: Cole run

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The man name Doug Derossett Zink’s bayou cash was his outfit one nicest dogs I seen go.
yes he was I met him thru Lenny regedanz hunted with Doug and cash several nights nice hound and even better owner

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I owned one from the famous Butch and Jill cross many moons ago. If memory serves me correctly Everett Weems was responsible for that line of plots and I believe were mostly bred for bear. If Fielder reads this maybe he will set me straight. I hunted with a couple good ones from the cross but mine did not play well with others and was put down.


You are correct Elvis. I have had several good ones from a mixture of Everett Weems and my dad’s Besr Pen stock. Both lines go back to a common foundation. It depends on the breeding and how they are hunted. As with all breeds, really good ones are hard to find. Percentagewise, Plotts will hold their own. Being tempermental and more accurate slows the Plott’s ability to score well in competition. The dog I have now has more hunt, hustle, track speed than most Plotts. His extreme desire to get treed affects his accuracy. These behaviors are not common in most Plotts that are coon-hunted today. As big game dogs, Plotts have no peer in my opinion.

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I can tell

I can tell that Facebook has drawn just about all the jerks and @$$holes from this site. A few years ago this post would brought on a pile of smart@$$ answers.

I have a good Plott female and some Cur - Plott crosses but I'm not a competition hunter.

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I can tell

I can tell that Facebook has drawn just about all the jerks and @$$holes from this site. A few years ago this post would brought on a pile of smart@$$ answers.

I have a good Plott female and some Cur - Plott crosses but I'm not a competition hunter.

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X2 Al, as a fellow Plott guy I expected to hear some wise crack answers, it's quite a relief to here good conversation.

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