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XBRED the new "AMERICAN COONHOUND" breed...

Well it didn't take long for the new catagorie to solidify it's intent to b recognized as a " breed".

Now a new reason to publish an XBred issue of cb.
Congrats to the MEN responsible for the Xbreds quick success !

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X2, Congrats to the Sam dog, well earned title.

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Congratulations! Sam did a good job

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The cross breed coonhound is the oldest coonhound breed. They were around before registration and they have stayed around through single registration. Thanks to UKC for allowing them to come out and be officially recognized and congrats to Sambo.

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Congrats! Love the X bred dogs. Breed coondog to coondog no matter what they are. I have a 3/4walker x 1/4B&T and he is all coondog. Love them Bad Habit dogs!

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Congrats to Sambo but aren't X Bred dogs just a combination of two different breeds and not a "breed" of their own? UKC did a good thing by allowing them to be recognised for what they are and hunted as such. Now there is no need to falsify their papers or have single registered dogs. But are they an actual "breed"? Is a half Redbone/half walker dog the same "breed" as a half blk n tan/half bluetick?

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X-bred

I'm glad a x bred won
Proves what I have been saying for a long time
Add some new blood in and breed back out to what you like

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Congrats to Sambo but aren't X Bred dogs just a combination of two different breeds and not a "breed" of their own? UKC did a good thing by allowing them to be recognised for what they are and hunted as such. Now there is no need to falsify their papers or have single registered dogs. But are they an actual "breed"? Is a half Redbone/half walker dog the same "breed" as a half blk n tan/half bluetick?


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Richard Lambert

Richard, back in the day (40-50) years ago a registered dog was rare in these mountains. Men cross bred on a regular basis and hunted what they bred. You are did not get consistency from these kind of crosses. Registered dogs produce more consistent traits, but mixed breeds can make excellent dogs. Dave

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Mr Dave, no one is argueing that point. I think that we can actually all agree on that. Surely we can also agree that adding the X Bred "category" also has made pedigrees/papers more accurate.
But are they a "breed" or a combination of "breeds"? Should they have their own "breed" or are they just a category? There are still some questions that need to be answered concerning their status. And these questions are not easily answered and should require a lot of thought. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for them.

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I had a "purist" PM me that X Bred dogs should be spayed/neutered before they could be registered. What do y'all think about that?

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They aren't a breed per say, they are more of a category and can be used for a breeding purpose IF you feel your line or breed needs it.

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I had a "purist" PM me that X Bred dogs should be spayed/neutered before they could be registered. What do y'all think about that?


I think he should change his handle to "Buble Boy" because if he thinks this is the first cross bred dog to win ukc world hes in a buble

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Hey now,oh my goodness,bless their hearts. Let's start with the mean jealous ones first and move on down the line accordingly to the slick,sick'em up a little bush category. Snowflake fallout.

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I bet within a year the UKC will implement Xbreed dogs into the show ring. I bet the reason of them not being of one breed will change. They are a breed,their Xbreed and now having a WC pups will sale and people will want to show them as well as hunt them. Congrats Sam

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I think he should change his handle to "Buble Boy" because if he thinks this is the first cross bred dog to win ukc world hes in a buble

ya. If this had been prior to the xbred program he'd prob be a single registered English

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Richard

Thanks for your response. I am in agreement with you regarding the idea of being a breed. Different crosses all put together does not qualify as a breed, but as a category. I agree that this process does and will continue to eliminate people falsifying papers in order to hunt these dogs. Kudos to UKC for creating this category for those people hunting cross breeds. I owned a blue tick / red bone cross in the early seventies that was a good one. Dave

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Haters

Ain't nothing new under the sun. Gonna do everything possible to take away,discredit, cheat,lie, steal,diminish this hounds accomplishments. This is disgusting,no wonder hunt numbers are down. All this because they couldn't have their way. No respect for nothing. No wonder the local clubs are going down hill,all this at a world hunt let alone a local hunt,good grief. What's happened here is 10 times worse at local hunts I bet and some want to have a blind eye.

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I think he should change his handle to "Buble Boy" because if he thinks this is the first cross bred dog to win ukc world hes in a buble
yea, one won 2 worlds same year.

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I bet within a year the UKC will implement Xbreed dogs into the show ring. I bet the reason of them not being of one breed will change. They are a breed,their Xbreed and now having a WC pups will sale and people will want to show them as well as hunt them. Congrats Sam


It will be hard to come up with a Breed Color Standard as you don't know what you will get when you cross them up. I guess they could just say ANY hound color. Only time will tell.

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I guess it shows a 'little' White power never hurt any breed?

Xbred were being crossed,hunted and winning for years til DNA came along.

Glad to see it accepted! A coon dog is a coon dog,no matter what is on the papers.



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quote:
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I had a "purist" PM me that X Bred dogs should be spayed/neutered before they could be registered. What do y'all think about that?
to each their own , I JUST LIKE WALKERS LIKE YOU LIKE REDBONES , WHO KNOWS MABY ONE DAY I WILL RUN ACROSS A BARN BURNER AND CROSS ONE BUT I DOUBT IT ,It would be crazy for them to have to spay or neuter one if they wanted that cross, I say leave em alone and have at it.

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Sambos UKC 3 gen. pedigree appears to be a "PR" walker X "PR" bluetick ....yet being
catoragorized as xbred...with second class privileges.....as if the sire/dame were of unknown ancestry....he's far from a mutt.
Maybe if the parents were of unknown then yea.

JMO but a distinction ought be made between crossbred ( unknown parents) and xbred ("PR x "PR") or vice versa.

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I guess we could have just one breed: CoonHound, color doesn't matter to me at all, Conformation does but treeing a coon is the most important.

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