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Dogs a b and c are struck and treed in that order. Upon arrival dog c is found split 20 yds away from a and b. Split is declared. Trees do not touch in any way. Judge orders dogs to be handled. As handler of c walks past dogs a and b. Dog b moves to c"s tree and begins treeing.
Should dog b take his tree minus for moving?

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IMO, no. Judge has ordered dogs to be handled. At that time, judge knows who was where. I would not minus dog if I was the judge.

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So after the call to handle. If handler fails to handle dog on his declared tree that dog can move to another tree and not take minus?
Cast vote minused the dog in question. Didn't effect outcome of cast. Just a question.

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Would you minus a dog hard to handle? He showed the tree to the judges satisfaction. If a dog is in a hole and treed, shows you the hole, comes to you but not back to the hole, do you minus him? Sorry, IMO, dog showed the tree. Could also be interference due to a handler walking by him and to another tree
Maybe a stretch, but dog showed the tree. To the satisfaction of the judge.....
If dog was not declared treed, but on the tree when the judge arrived, then left when handlers walked in.... How would you score him? Coon seen... Would you minus him for being there? By minusing him, you agreed he was treed..... Hmmmm

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Would you minus if dog went back and opened on trail after being told to handle. Same difference. There's a lot of what if's.

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I think this has come up enough that UKC made an official ruling on it and I am pretty sure that they decided that the dog is responsible for what it does until it is actually handled, not just told to handle so the dog would be minused for leaving the tree just like he would have if he had done it before you got there.

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I was not there and who knows what happened but if dog is treed on one tree it can not leave that tree and tree on another with out taking minus points

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Yes, minus tree points for leaving the first tree, then minus strike if coon is + on second tree. If the second tree is slick or off game he would get 25- on the tree also. Treeing on a closed tree.

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Yes, minus tree points for leaving the first tree, then minus strike if coon is + on second tree. If the second tree is slick or off game he would get 25- on the tree also. Treeing on a closed tree.

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IMO, no. Judge has ordered dogs to be handled. At that time, judge knows who was where. I would not minus dog if I was the judge.

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(Would you minus a dog hard to handle? He showed the tree to the judges satisfaction. If a dog is in a hole and treed, shows you the hole, comes to you but not back to the hole, do you minus him? Sorry, IMO, dog showed the tree.)

Neither of these situations apply. He said the dog was treed then moved to another tree and started treeing. How can you not minus the dog for moving. A dog hard to handle is not barking treed at another tree. A dog that is treed in a hole and comes out to meet you is not treeing in another spot.

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(Would you minus a dog hard to handle? He showed the tree to the judges satisfaction. If a dog is in a hole and treed, shows you the hole, comes to you but not back to the hole, do you minus him? Sorry, IMO, dog showed the tree.)

Neither of these situations apply. He said the dog was treed then moved to another tree and started treeing. How can you not minus the dog for moving. A dog hard to handle is not barking treed at another tree. A dog that is treed in a hole and comes out to meet you is not treeing in another spot.

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20yrds moves as dog c handler walked Past come on! All dogs act different when coming to getting handled at tree! Different strokes for different folks!why was dog c handler at tree before other handlers?

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20yrds moves as dog c handler walked Past come on! All dogs act different when coming to getting handled at tree! Different strokes for different folks!why was dog c handler at tree before other handlers?

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