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jdgher
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First look at empty tree

Last night my old female did a nice job working a track and getting treed, one of those you really enjoy listening to. Track lasted about 15 minutes, started out kinda cold, she worked it up giving long bawls, that got closer and closer together with more excitement as the track warmed up. She hit the tree with 2 big bawls and broke over into a chop, then right into a ringing chop, telling me she had no doubt that he was up there. I drove a couple hundred yards, then walked another couple hundred, nice big tree without a leaf on it, easy to shine. I thought this won't take long to find, wrong.
I start shining and at first I thought, wow this looks empty. I walked a full circle around that tree, nothing. There was one spot that kinda appeared to be a hollow limb up high, it was a broke out place, that could go down, but it wasn't easy to tell. I thought well that might bail us out in a hunt, but I was thinking she missed. Just me and the dog, no reason to be in a hurry, she's telling me he's there. I thought I'm going to walk around this thing again and look at every limb. I soon noticed a fork that was a little heavy, I thought well maybe, so I walked around to the other side, plain as day now, there was the coon. I pet her up good and headed for the truck.
This has happened before and I've been too quick to decide if a tree was empty or not, scolded a dog and sent them on, then get out there a hundred yards and look back and see eyes, gives you a sick feeling in your gut too say the least.....
Look those trees over good, then look at them again, can turn a bad hunt into a good hunt,

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MIKE CARDER
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Greenville, Ky
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Empty tree

Last night my armor hound worked a track about 850 yards at 2:00am. He would tree hard and shut up. I let this go on for about 5-10 minutes. When I got to the tree he would get up on it and tree then run about 20 feet away and jump up on another. But tree harder on the first tree. I could see no coon in first tree but see a coon in the other. They touched and I can only assume it crossed over and could smell it in both places. It was a big ole greasy boar coon.
But like you said I couldn't find the coon in the tree he was on first.

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Cory Estes
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Fellers i have been dealing with similar situations all week. Just seems tough lately, even her in southeastern indiana

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croatankid
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Unless you're competing why bother looking? If my dogs tree, I know there's a coon or possum up there. I just praise them good and tell them to come on and find another one. Then we go on. No need wasting time searching the tree when you have complete faith in your dogs.

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Bill(Chew)
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Cause I LOVE seeing a coon in the tree even after all these years!

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MIKE CARDER
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Registered: Jan 2004
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Well because

quote:
Originally posted by croatankid
Unless you're competing why bother looking? If my dogs tree, I know there's a coon or possum up there. I just praise them good and tell them to come on and find another one. Then we go on. No need wasting time searching the tree when you have complete faith in your dogs.

I have to find them. I shoot them all out. Lol. Just joking.

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novicane65
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quote:
Originally posted by croatankid
Unless you're competing why bother looking? If my dogs tree, I know there's a coon or possum up there. I just praise them good and tell them to come on and find another one. Then we go on. No need wasting time searching the tree when you have complete faith in your dogs.

With this kind of logic, you could hunt any dog and be happy. Whether I'm pleasure hunting or in a competition hunt I look for a coon. I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't check to see if the coon was there. Now I'm not saying I find every coon treed, especially in summer. But have you ever hunted your dog enough to know if it has a coon or a slick? Most dog try to talk themselves into a slick. Most dogs have a different pitch in their voice when they're slick verses not. But even knowing your dog, I'd still shine the tree for 10-15 minutes to make sure. And lately I haven't needed to shine a tree for near that long to find the coon. But if your trees on a big hemlock pine tree up here. You'll need all of that time and more to shine it.

Once a buddy and I were hunting our old dogs together one night. They took a track about .75 from where they struck. Treed on a big hemlock that had grape vines in it, and going into other trees. Neither of these dogs were slick treeing dogs. They both were treeing pretty hard. And it took us well over an hour to find the coon but he was 3/4 to the top and sitting on a vine ball in the hemlock. But we also shined all trees the vines went to also. And you better believe that sucker hit the ground.

And a different scenario, hunted my buddy's dog in January this year. He can tree any kind of coon in the woods. He's not perfect, but a good solid dog. Anyway he gets treed in a wide hedge row on a farm that's my honey hole. About 2 inches of snow on the ground. I shined for 15 minutes and couldn't find the coon. Didn't see any holes, so I ruled out it being a den. Then started to shine the surrounding trees. Found the coon 3 trees over. Found the tracks. The coon had back tracked himself for 25 yards. Now this dog got is correction and treed a coon in less than 15 minutes from that tree. Now how in the world do you think a dog can tree the one that ran his own tracks backwards for 25 yards? And if there wasn't snow on the ground I wouldn't have believed that a coon would do that. I'll also add this dog hunted for a truck in $kc in Feb.

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