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2017 UKC Winter Classic Entry Info

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/News...1262017063902PM

Thank you to everyone who entered a dog in the hunt this year. It's pretty humbling to see this kind of support. A lot of the credit goes to each one of the surrounding clubs for their hard work and hospitality. It's a lot of dogs to put in the woods but everyone involved is stepping up for the occasion and working hard to make it happen. A special thanks to the Itawamba Sportsmen Club in Fulton for helping out this year.

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Hey Allen

Where is the Friday night Reg. Blueticks ??

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Why is some entries list in grey others in white?

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Since there are so many dogs will the UKC be placing 5 GrNT's each Night??? In the years past it seems they only place one Grand each night. It would be really nice for the UKC to place up to five placements just like Nite Champions. You have the Grand Sixteen at Autumn Oaks, why not have recognition for at least the top 10 of the weekend (5 each night) for Grands at the Winter Classic. It would also be a great way for a Grand to earn a couple of performance points as well. You are really only talking about 8 more throphys and 8 more pictures . Alot of people spend a lot of money to come to the Winter Classic, I think it would be a "Grand" thing for the UKC to do to show some appreciation for the high numbers this year

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Why is some entries list in grey others in white?


It separates the males and females.

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Re: Hey Allen

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Where is the Friday night Reg. Blueticks ??



Looks like we had the B&T registered entries in its place. It's updated now. Safe travels to Batesville, Brady!

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Glad I got my entry in just in time to stay off the wait list

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Oh my goodness, 8:30pm, somebody put in some overtime. Thanks a lot. I agree with Jared. The Gr Nts that are still getting hunted should get a little more prestige. It is no wonder everyone switches to a young dog when their older one makes Grand.

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500 dogs and only 30 Redbones, what chance do we have? I can't even cipher those odds. Talk about an underdog, oh my goodness.

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quote:
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500 dogs and only 30 Redbones, what chance do we have? I can't even cipher those odds. Talk about an underdog, oh my goodness.
You may as well stay home since mouse is going.

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He is a coon dog!
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Since there are so many dogs will the UKC be placing 5 GrNT's each Night??? In the years past it seems they only place one Grand each night. It would be really nice for the UKC to place up to five placements just like Nite Champions. You have the Grand Sixteen at Autumn Oaks, why not have recognition for at least the top 10 of the weekend (5 each night) for Grands at the Winter Classic. It would also be a great way for a Grand to earn a couple of performance points as well. You are really only talking about 8 more throphys and 8 more pictures . Alot of people spend a lot of money to come to the Winter Classic, I think it would be a "Grand" thing for the UKC to do to show some appreciation for the high numbers this year


Well no answer so far.... Looking for an answer from the UKC on this subject and there reasoning behind it.How about just a picture and some performance points . The Grand American places more than just one Grand Night place, the World Hunt places 20 and Autumn Oaks places 16 , so this makes it the only major UKC event that doesn't place any more than just one Grand. So why not place more than just one Grand Night at the Winter Classic?? I think it would make a lot of Grand Night owners happy they can still win there cast and get more of a chance to get recognized.

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Why do you need more spots? win the one that is there with the dog you bring and it will mean so much more to you. Every spot outside of 1st, is next best loser anyway.

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Why do you need more spots? win the one that is there with the dog you bring and it will mean so much more to you. Every spot outside of 1st, is next best loser anyway.


Rock,
It would be nice to know if I was the first loser and I would be going home with some performance points for my dog.

Ok how about this, you can bring a Registered dog place in the top 10 each night, gets points toward NtCh, get some Performance points, prizes, a trophy, and get a picture taken.

You can bring a Night Champion place in the top 5 each night, can earn a 1 win towards GrNt, performance points, get some prizes, get a picture taken, and get a trophy.

If you bring a Grand Nt to this hunt and you get 2nd or 3rd you get nothing. Does this really makes sense?? So why punish people wanting to hunt there Grands in this hunt??

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If I read the numbers right, it looks like there are 1039 entries. If that is correct, are all 1039 hunting or is that hunting and bench show entries combined? I would hope this is a combined number.

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No that's just hunting dogs. Bench show does not have to pre enter

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quote:
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Why do you need more spots? win the one that is there with the dog you bring and it will mean so much more to you. Every spot outside of 1st, is next best loser anyway.

Everyone wants to win but why fault dogs that don't have the opportunity other's will. It all comes down to your guide not your dog. If you think everyone is going to get the same opportunity with that many dogs. You have done went crazy lol. Last year at winter classic draw a guide that takes us to public land first dump 18 dogs at the tree when we get there. Them dogs do not have same opportunity so don't fault them by only giving one place

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Wait list

I got my entry form and am on the wait list. How likely or unlikely is it that I will get to hunt based on previous years experiences? I mean i will go and wait to see and visit with everyone and shop but it sure will be disappointing not to hunt. Live and learn.

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I have never seen anyone turned down that made the deadline your chances are 99.9 percent maybe even 100%

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UKC PREFORMANCE SIRE Nt ch pkc ch BAM BAM The only one out of WORLD CH BIG D X GRNT SKIPPERS UMFORGIVEN SAIGE she has 21 pups 4nt ch 5 grnt ch thats 42.85%
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wait list

Anyone being put on wait list is highly unlikely. The reason the date got moved out 2 weeks is so deer season would be over and that will open up so much more hunting land. I personally wouldn't worry about being on the wait list.

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quote:
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I understand how you would want something for your effort, but from the registry point of view, the very reason for the performance program, and its survival, is to keep new dogs coming on board into the program. The best way to do that is to move the newer through the program faster, while slowing the amounts of monies given out to the "finished" hounds. I see both sides, I really do. That's why I wanted a weekday hunting program so the grands could and would compete for money on more regular basis. The super slams have helped in that area some, but it still isn't weekdays, except for the weeks around a major UKC owned event, like the Winter Classic, and mostly regular type slams then.

Rock,
It would be nice to know if I was the first loser and I would be going home with some performance points for my dog.

Ok how about this, you can bring a Registered dog place in the top 10 each night, gets points toward NtCh, get some Performance points, prizes, a trophy, and get a picture taken.

You can bring a Night Champion place in the top 5 each night, can earn a 1 win towards GrNt, performance points, get some prizes, get a picture taken, and get a trophy.

If you bring a Grand Nt to this hunt and you get 2nd or 3rd you get nothing. Does this really makes sense?? So why punish people wanting to hunt there Grands in this hunt??

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I don't know about you Rock, but when I paid my pups up in the performance program it wasn't just until they made Grand, it was for the lifetime of the dog. So you are telling me that giving away a few more placements in the Grand category at a bigger hunt like this would really change the performance program numbers that much..... I really doubt it.

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UKC Top Producers List
UKC Winter Classic High Scoring Redbone
Co owned with Richard Lambert

GrNtCh PKC Ch One Chance Fancy- (Boone X Toadie)
2018 Autumn Oaks Grand 16
2018 Grand National Redbone
2018 Redbones Days RQE 1st Place

Walkers-
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Claremont PKC Legacy hunt Final 4
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