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I was wondering if anyone out there hunts any north star bred blue dogs, Jerry Sitlow is helping me get into this strain. Any info on this strain would be appreciated.

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just hunted with a couple and they seem slow starting to me. but have seen some good ones.

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Humpal do you have any Norhtstar blues right know lets go hunting some time i would be interested to see what you got. seems like youre haveing a hard time getting a reply from anyone. give me a call well go out some time.

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You will have a very hard time finding a good dog with the name North Star in Ped. This line has died out starting about 10 to 15 years ago. It is Heavy Hammer bred dogs. The founders of this line have all quit raising hounds and started raising families. I have looked for 9 years for one and they are all gone. The last I seen them for sale was if 1993.
They were the hotest thing to sliced bread in the early 80's and they just disappeared just like the people raising them. Good lusk finding one that hasn't been out crossed to beyond repair. But, I'll put $5 saying you won't have any luck.

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Rex Krough Marshalltown IA. He may still have some North Star blooded dogs. maybe.

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Jay I think Krough has been out of it for a long time. La Grand use to see a few of them in their hunts and they havn't had any. I think Rex last dog was North Star Blue Mark. I had a pup out of him that was born in 1990.

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He's got a dog still. GRNTCH Etringer's Spur X NorthStar female. NtCH I believe.

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Thanks for replying guys. I actually just hunted a north star dog at the winter classic, his name was north star blue speck, he is seven yrs old. Jerry sitlow the man i mentioned earlier actually has seven north star dogs in his kennel between the ages of 7 and thierteen. Jerry has been out of competition hunting for about 10 to 15 yrs, so you probably havent heard of them at the hunts. he has run mostly bear with the dogs he has now and they excell at it. jerry and i are going to start hunting a few of them and probably campaign one or two of them in the hunts this summer. i was just wondering if any up close blood was out there to breed back into. Right now we have just north star males. Jerry has a real nice ntch grch female off of hornet and i have a nice jet bred female we are thinking of crossing on them.

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Kaleb ranger sure looked good tonite I think by the time season roles around he'll be hard to beat. see ya again next week for a hunt.

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I'm Rex Krough's son and we are still alive and well and still raising north star blueticks. We have two really nice females mother and daughter will hunt for everybody anytime they want.

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My god the closet door has been opened. We have found a hand full. Guys what North Star dogs are yours closly related to.
Grnt ch North Star Blue Mark - Tom Kraugh
Grnt ch Mid Iowa Bud - Floyd D. Cummings
Grntch North Star Blue Bee - Dave Stine
Pr North Star Blue Marie - Floyd D Cummings
Grntch North Star Blue Ugly Jeff Hearter Jefferson Iowa First name may be wrong
I don't know all the owners but this is a few that was around years ago and people may still be putting them in their bloodlines.
nt ch North Star Blue Bonnet
ch North Star Blue Becky
Grnt ch ch North Star Blue Buddy
nt ch North Star Blue Molly
ch Grntch Mc Coys Mich. Blue Rebel
Grnt ch North Star Blue Spring
Grntch Grch North Star Blue Bonnie
Grntch North Star Blue Buck
ntch ch North Star Blue Brandy
Grnt ch North Star Blue Buck
Grnt ch North Star Blue Rebel
nt ch North Star Blue Kristy
Pr North Star Blue Sarah
nt ch North Star Blue Vida
Now I got most of these names off a 7 gen. pedigree from a dog that was born 11/12/91. It would be helpful to trace these dogs to their owners. The names I have listed show up in this pedigree more then once and on both sides. If you get back to the 5th and be on you will see at the highest Hammer 5 and alot of Hammer 2. Mostly Dave Deans blood. Queastion is where do we want to go. I bet Rex Krough could give us alot of info. Please do so because I would love to get some of this GOOD blood back.

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Mackie Mann's hounds would bring back some of the old blood, more than likely the purest, and has been proven. Seman from Spanky is available also through Dave Dean the foundation breeder of the bloodline you are talking about. Mackie Mann's is an encyclopedia on this line of dogs maybe you should give him a call............

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Russ Downing line of dogs. Being that the North Star dogs are already in the pedigree. Don't see how you could go wrong. Mr V is right get the Spanky seman have some up close. That Mort dog of Don Sandbergs looks nice so does Bock and the other Grand nite male he has. Hmmmm sound good to me.

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Any old time Bluetick hunters put a owners name on any of those hounds above.

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in blooded to and bred by. i'd say that bloodline of jim's may have a few individuals way back..but up close? keep in mind..a fella comes along. breeds a bloodline up. he might then quit. or pass away. like elbert vaughn or kelly bragg, as an example. BUT!!! with them also goes all their ideas and ideals of their OWN! so someone else comes along, uses their hounds in their breeding program. but it is now losing it's original bloodline as it is someone else doing the breeding. so where you may have a pedigree saying vaughn or bragg (example) it in reality isn't. someone just came along and tacked their name on. dave dean...good example...warren haslouer another. if they don't do the actual breeding? is it really "their line"? north star WAS jim rosenwald. he USED dean's original hammer II and several others. dave nelson, dual gr ch north star blue star, out of that stock. denny mcneilius used some north star for the junk yard blues of his. dual gr ch russ's treein luke was by dual gr ch junk yard blue david (he was by buddy x star) ...the sire of gr nite ch coz's sparetime spanky. so who's bloodline is it? LOL! don sandberg bred spanky..out of his peg. but is luke actually junkyard?! the list of north star named hounds carry blood from other's as well. example... dual gr north star blue bonnie. this is definitely ol blood as the term implies....also like to reply, perry's (jodavies) oppy male reminds me ALOT of this north star line. size, type, etc.

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where's Perry?

I'd like to hear more about Jerry Sitlow's dogs.

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JUST GOT IN FROM ABOUT A 3800 MILE VENTURE THROUGH ILL, IND, KENTUCKY,TENNESSE, NORTHCAROLINA, BACK THROUGH TENNESSE, ACROSS ARKANSAS, HALF WAY THROUGH OKLAHOMA UP THROUGH MISSOURI AND HOME. LAURA IS HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. OPPY CARRIES HEAVY NORTHSTAR, JUNKYARD, OLD HAMMER, WITH A SHOT OF BOOMER. THOSE DOGS ARE ALL THE SAME THING, JUST STACKED IN DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON WHO
BRED THEM, BUT AS SHE SAID THEY ARE ALOT FROM THE SAME FOUNDATION. THE SHOT OF BOOMER DOESN'T HURT EITHER. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE INFO LAURA. HEY TRENT, TELL THE OLD MAN I SAID HOWDY. REX KROUGH HAS HUNTED THESE DOGS AS LONG AS ANYONE AND MORE THAN KNOWS WHAT A COON DOG IS.
HE IS STILL HUNTING AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO BETTER THE LINE OF DOGS THAT HE HUNTS. I ALWAYS ENJOY A CHANCE TO GET AROUND REX AND GET MORE INFO ON THESE DOGS, AND HIS OPINION IS ALWAYS VALUED. PERRY

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Hoy Biscamp. Don't forget Hoy's Rocket dog. He was bred over some of the North Star females. The fastest track dog I have ever hunted with to this day was a North Star bred hound. Off of old Rocket and N.S. Blue Star. Unbelievable track speed. Hot or cold, nothing could stay with the Shine dog. Joe Culpepper owned him twenty years ago. He wasn't a tight tree dog. But he would tree more coon in sorry hunting areas than a strong man could carry out. I wish I could find another like him. He also had a yodelling mouth. His locate would make you tingle all over. Man what a mouth. These wre some tight bred hounds but they were nice.

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When I started hunting coons when I was about 12 or 13. Was about when the die hards around here were dying out. The stories of those old hounds that they had tied out back were unreal. As a young man I walked by old Grnt ch Mid Iowa Bud every day just sitting in his pen for close to 5 years before he died. I asked the guy that had Bud why he didn't hunt him his reply was he has no more to prove and no reason to hunt. He was a nice looking hound I never got to hunt with him because these guys got fighting among each other and a few said Bud was mean and they would never hunt with him.
It took years after the fact and a couple beers but the truth came out. Bud did get rough but for good reason. At the time coon prices went way high. The guy that had Bud was laid off every winter. He trapped and hunted close to every night. Bud seen close to 200 coon a season dumped on his head and just got burnt out as I was told.
I wish I was ten years older and would have been around when the hunts were going on.

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I can vaguely remember going on a hunt with Mr Biscamp, I wanna say mid 80's (I was 11-12 yrs old) but don't remember the dog much. I can remember the Rowdy dog of his by name. Who can tell me more about these blues? My hunting buddies always tease me about hunting blue dogs (they are walker men) and always say " ol Biscamp had about the last good blue dogs in these parts." It seems some of you folks have some knowledge of the now deceased gentleman, and would like to know more about him and his dogs.
Thanks

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Bonnet- Dave Nelson
Becky- Dave Nelson
Buddy- Denny McNelius
Molly- Kim Sharman
Rebel- Jim Rosenwald
Spring- Rod Dutton
Bonny- Jim Rosenwald
Buck- Jim Rosenwald
Brandy- Jim Rosenwald
Rebel- Jim Rosenwald
Kristy- Rex Krough
Sarah- Rex Krough
Vida- Rex Krough

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Now were starting to get some info. I talked to sitlow on the phone the other night and got some info on his pedigrees. he currently bear hunts five brothers, all are cold nosed track driving dogs that tree their hearts out. I didnt get a real detailed pedigree but i can tell you they are out of North Star Blue Odie Who is currently 13 i think. he goes back to hammer II twice, hauge kate, russ blue toad. their dam is North Star Blue Dot shes out N.S Blue trooper and N.S Blue chris their out of N.S Blue Renegade and N.S Blue Snapper, Renegade is out of North Star Blue Chuck Who Jerry says was one of his best. Im not sure bot i think chuck came off the buck and brandy cross. Jery has mentioned all of the names appearing on here many times as well as the dogs. I'm trying my best to get info but i cant take notes as fast as jerry talks. I thank everyone for the replies all the info is appreciated, I am very interested in getting into this bloodline. Jerry has also pointed out the oppy dog and said " Thats what a North Star Dog Should look like" In other words he likes him not to mention his ped. would be interested in hunting with rex's females and the oppy dog if ever down that way.

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Boy Trent you came through. I bet your dad just took over and said this is easy. I'm very interested in this post and any info about the bloodlines past to present would be great.

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LYLE SNAVLEY OF MN. GRNTCH. BULLET. HE ALSO HAD SOME TOUGH FEMALES. PERRY

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Joe Etringer still hunts N.S. dogs. I have had the pleasure to hunt with both Rex and Joe. Seems like Rex can remember pedigrees and owners from way back. Trent how is Nun doing on her little vacation?

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