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croatankid
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I found yesterday that a guy is trapping beavers from a creek that runs through the area. I asked my neighbor if the guy also traps coons and he didn't know. So I wonder, if the trapper is trapping beaver, would he likely also to be trapping coon, since the coon skins aren't worth anything. Also, the traps for beaver don't catch coons, or do they. I would hate to find that coon are being taken for no good reason. I don't know if the trapper is licensed or not.

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if he is a beaver trapper ,he would likely release any coon that he caught.because as you stated low price on coons..he would most likely be mad that a coon was clogging up his trap keeping him from catching his target animal, the better priced beaver...

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do the traps injure the coons? I don't know anything about traps except for the all fashioned kind that clamps onto a leg.

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Almost every beaver set is a drowning set or uses a kill trap. Beaver are seldom taken alive and almost any set is under water. It is unlikely that a beaver set would take a coon.

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the injury to the animals most times depends on the trap and the trapper...if the trapper knows what he is doing there is little to no injury ...to big of a trap catches the animal to high on the leg this can cause some discomfort,then the animal fights the trap...a catch across the pad of the foot causes little discomfort .when I trapped a lot, a lot of times when I would get to a coon pad caught.he would be sitting on top of my stake asleep...pad catches , the foot go's numb in a min. or less..your goal is to restrain the animal,not bone crushing catches...when we didn't have an otter season ,I would have to release accidental catches,9 out of ten otters would have zero damage...

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heres is a pic. of my favorite coon traps.. the bottom trap is a number one blake and lamb stoploss trap.the top is a double spring number 11 victor...neither of these traps do damage on foot catches...

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Hey Rex, you ever seen a long spring trap that has a small spring and then a larger spring on the same side?

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If he is trapping beavers, he may be trapping coons. I don't think either are bringing any money this year, and coons are much easier to skin.

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yea Sleepy I have...the smaller spring is what they call a helper spring....

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Booze, I had a friend sell some beaver 2 weeks ago at FHA auction and he averaged $22.90 on 48 beaver,got $41.00 for his biggest...not great but worth awhole lot more than coons...he had 53 coons in the auction and 2 sold...they couldnt get a bid on the coons,they remain unsold..at the nafa auction last week it was the same all the coons remained unsold..and not much movment on muskrat either..

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yea Sleepy I have...the smaller spring is what they call a helper spring....


Hmmmm.... probably worth a lot of coin

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some of them old traps are,,,look for the ones with cast iron jaws instead of steel..those most likely bring over 30 bucks apiece to a trap collecter ...and the right year and model bear traps will bring over a grand...

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Depends on the trapper. A lot of guys in this area use soft catch traps. Rubber lined over the pressure points. There's also offset jaws that are supposed to be easier on the foot.

I'm no real trapper, about all I was ever good at was catching muskrats, but I know guys that are and regularly release bobcats, fishers, yotes, and fox so coon would be no problem if they weren't the target game.

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In PA, your suppose to set ur beaver traps so that the beaver drowns. Conibear traps kill the beaver when it goes through them and with a leg hold trap, we put them on cable slides that will let the beaver go under water, but can't slide back up. We put debarked sticks out for bait so doubt a coon would be attracted to it. But suppose it could be after something else and get into one. We don't let them out of our bobcat/coyote traps so,if we got one alive, we'd skin it.

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How you do a cable set? Will a MB 550 hold a beaver? I just trap for yotes and the coons will sure get in those no matter how high off water I set the traps. I release all coon though. Thats why I took up trapping because folks coming in asking to trap mycoon hunting spots. So I been learning how myself just to save my coon. I try and set rd beds away from water completely and field edges and rds in fields. Still I catch some coon. Just from what Ive saw. The rubber jaws do more damage to a coon quicker. They will chew all toes off and there foot sometimes. With regular traps they just seem to chew on toes. Ive not tried offset yet. Ive heard a coon a lot of times can pull free or not loose circulation.

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How you do a cable set? Will a MB 550 hold a beaver? I just trap for yotes and the coons will sure get in those no matter how high off water I set the traps. I release all coon though. Thats why I took up trapping because folks coming in asking to trap mycoon hunting spots. So I been learning how myself just to save my coon. I try and set rd beds away from water completely and field edges and rds in fields. Still I catch some coon. Just from what Ive saw. The rubber jaws do more damage to a coon quicker. They will chew all toes off and there foot sometimes. With regular traps they just seem to chew on toes. Ive not tried offset yet. Ive heard a coon a lot of times can pull free or not loose circulation.


An MB 550 should hold one, we used ours for bobcat and fisher so we used smaller ones for beaver. For a cable, we stake one end on the shore and then attach the other end to anchors we made with cement, but a cement block works, too; and put it in the water deep enough the beaver will drown. Attach the trap chain with a quick link to the slider on the cable when the beaver gets caught it pulls the slider down it only slides one way.

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the slider we make is a 3/4 piece of angle iron cut into one inch long segments...drill a hole on each angle, one for the cable to slide through and the other to attach the trap too..swims out, cant swim back...drowned beaver...

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