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Yes it was for Sedalia, Mo., but Missouri game department wouldn't issue a license because of turkey season so we had to come up with a plan B.

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Registered: Mar 2005
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Richard ,could you or would someone else be able to explain what plan B is and how the change will effect the groundwork already in place ,thru the By-Laws of the organization ? Thanks.......Dave

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Maybe you guys could discuss Ashland! Maybe could better awards because frankly they are very poor compared to your southern hunts! A lot of memberships are sold there! And compared to BBOA BBCHA awards up here at about the same as local hunts! And wonder why numbers are down!

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Reunion location was selected by BBCHA Pres. Jim Combs and Portland, In. was selected.
The Ashland hunt was brought up by Jim at the Fall Round-up and it was approved to provide Jackets for K&Q's.

Jim's #918-825-2398

All officer positions will be open for nominations at the Fall Round-up.

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I went to the fall round up for the first time and sit in the meeting. I was astonished by the lack of parliamentary procedure for this meeting. I was amazed that the meeting was never adjourned. I had a hard time hearing what was being said and far as I know it's still going on. As a new bluetick person I wasn't impressed and won't be joining the association.
I did hear a guy speak up that back in the 90s they voted in the bylaws not to have anything to do with UKC ever. I know that bylaws can be changed for the better of the organization. Everything can be changed. (When voted by the general membership).From what I seen personally a lack of procedures and lack of leadership at that meeting.
I'm sure this organization is good or it wouldn't have made it this many years.

Blue Label you are right if it was voted on by the general Membership to have it at the Reunion that's where it should be held. A lack of following bylaws should be brought up to the director s and be handled in accordance. It's the directors responsibilities to represent the General Membership.
Blue Label it sounds like you would make a great leader and would represent the organization the right way. Good Luck!
Mr.Shivers, you should contact the directors and let them know your frustrations about the Ashland hunt. The only way things get fixed is let your representatives know what's going on. I personally don't like getting on here and hyjacking this thread when I m not a member,just a guy with a Sorry,blind in one eye bluetick. That can tree a easy coon or oppsumn.

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I can speak to the UKC issue. It is not that we never want anything to do with UKC, we (BBCHA) want to remain independent and not a charter
Bluetick organization for UKC, or PKC for that matter. Fred Miller expressed some interest years ago in having BBCHA be the UKC Bluetick charter organization, and we declined in order to stay indepedent and more true to the breed.

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As far a parlimentary procedure, I don't think the BBCHA's current regime or board even know that that is anymore. Sad as that might be...

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Oct. 2014 Fall Round-up Flora, Il.
After years of dedicated and thankless service to the organization the officers at that time were done, and I don't blame them. I understand completely.
Nominations were called for. No one replied. Where were you? This happened more than once, comment was made if no one stepped up this would be it. Where was you? Jim stepped up. Never served as a club officer anywhere but didn't want to see the organization fold. Jim is neither a public speaker or computer expert but he volunteered to try. Needed V.P., Treas. and Wild Coonhound Chairman. Where were you? Jim has lost countless hours of sleep over this, trying to make it work.
He's sold 50/50 tickets and gun tickets and gotten numerous prizes donated to give to winners and try to draw attendance at the Fall Round-Up. Where were you? We're just trying to keep this afloat for the ones that have all the answers. If you have the answers we have an officers job for you.

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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: West Virginia
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Wow, three people asks questions and are concerned about what is happening with their organization and this is the kind of treatment they get. This is not the first time this has happened either. I remember not to long ago that questions about the blue pages for the last two years were brought up and was met with this same kind of treatment.

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Sounds as if the organization is hanging by a thread if people r forcing themselves to take positions they don't want. When that happens it's like putting someone behind the plate that don't wanna b there. They're gonna lack n performance.

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If you have a question about the by laws there is a copy in every bluebook. If you are to lazy to look it up but come on here and complain it is a sad reflection on you.

As for changing the location of the reunion it was explained by Richard that it was the Wildlife dept of Mo. Which caused a change. But if you want to hunt in Sedialia that weekend feel free

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AS far as BBCHA barely hanging on we have more funds than in several years. It is getting harder to get heip but that is with all coon related org. Our younger members have to much happening in there lives today as compared to 30 years ago.

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Mr. Shivers Mr. Comb has wanted to upgrade Ashland prizes since he took office. It just takes time to make the change we must go by the BYLAWS lol.

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Registered: Dec 2005
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Lazy has nothing to do with the question that was asked on this thread. The question was why isn't BBCHA following what was decided about the board meeting and when it would be held. If BBCHA are not going to follow what its members vote on, why have a meeting at all? Instead of answering questions, it seems as if attacks is all we are getting from this current group of officers.

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If you don't like my response call me on the phone not on a public forum And yes it is lazy to ask about the bylaws without looking first. My no. is in the bluebook but that would require you to do some work

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The public forum is a perfect place to ask questions and get information. Why does BBCHA communicate through this board if its members can't ask questions?

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Yes asking questions is good but if you don't get the answer you like don't criticize on a public forum without calling someone in person. JUST THE PROPER THING TO DO.

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Location: Spiro, Oklahoma
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Jim Combs is doing a great job. I don't believe it's possible to find a person that cares any more about this organization than he does. He is constantly trying to think of new things that can be done to make BBCHA grow. As a board of director and Oklahoma state BBCHA rep., I've spent hours sitting at the membership table selling memberships. I've sold raffle tickets. I've put on sectionals. I've taken pictures of winners and placed them on this board. I've spent time talking to businesses about prizes for these hunts, and I know out of all the time that I have spent, it is only a fraction of the time that Jim has given this organization. His number is listed. Please call him concerning your questions and see what you can do to help BBCHA.

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I was on the Executive Committe as BBCHA Historical Bluebook Editor for 4 years in the mid-late 90s. I was blackballed by the BBCHA heirarcy after John Vanderbeck step down as President of the BBCHA, and even though I have, in recent years, offered my assistance to the BBCHA, I feel like the lack of vision, focus, and leadership has left me hanging even when I tried to help. I was given no direction in any way, shape, or form... and that left as bad of taste in my mouth as anything the Mississippi did to me back in the late 90s. The only reason I stick around is because of Guy Ormiston and my friendship with him. End of story. Period. The BBCHA offers me nothing anymore. I try to sell memberships every year and and gotten back into putting an page ad in the Bluebook every year. But the lack of vision and use of social media in any shape or form that would help build the organization and give it needed growth is stymied by old school politics that has ruled the organization for too long. So here I sit is Michigan with a lot of knowledge and expertise about the history of the BBCHA and the bluetick breed feeling like I've gotten the Gordie Howe mushroom treatment (Google it).

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Well I just sent in my dues for the first time last week. As far as knowing anything major about the BBCHA I am green as they come. I decided to join because 2016 is the year I am going feet first into this sport as much as I can. I am not new, nor am I opposed to "politics" in an organization, that is just par for the course and is what it is. That being said, I am a young man with a young family and I respectfully pose the question, did I make the right choice in joining this organization? There is no disrespect or animosity in that question. My time and my hard earned money are precious to me, as is the sport. I look forward to getting to know my fellow hunters and members, and look forward to becoming a valuable ( as we all are ) member to this organization. I ask this question, because a post like this causes some uneasiness in me. I look forward to seeing you all soon.
Respectfully yours,
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Originally posted by INDIANA-DAN
Well I just sent in my dues for the first time last week. As far as knowing anything major about the BBCHA I am green as they come. I decided to join because 2016 is the year I am going feet first into this sport as much as I can. I am not new, nor am I opposed to "politics" in an organization, that is just par for the course and is what it is. That being said, I am a young man with a young family and I respectfully pose the question, did I make the right choice in joining this organization? There is no disrespect or animosity in that question. My time and my hard earned money are precious to me, as is the sport. I look forward to getting to know my fellow hunters and members, and look forward to becoming a valuable ( as we all are ) member to this organization. I ask this question, because a post like this causes some uneasiness in me. I look forward to seeing you all soon.
Respectfully yours,
Indiana Dan

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Columbus, Ks
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Thank you Executive Board. Those fellas spend endless hours in coordinating events, putting out fires, travel without very little compensation, criticism and no pay for their efforts. Those are just a few reasons leadership is difficult to secure. I would have a few on my no answer phone list. BBCHA has lots to be proud of with past leadership and present. Financially, no big scandals and secure. Yes, a few want all the big hunts in Ohio, Indiana or Illinois. I would if I lived there. If you would enjoy getting evolved in association leadership I'm sure with a reputable reputation you can. Your last name doesn't have to be Trump.

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I am a lil confused by how you responded to these questions, no one said they would rather hunt in Sedalia rather than in Indiana! Mr. Shivers just ask to better the prizes or awards at the Ashland hunt, which is not a big deal. Blue Label was asking about the location of the meeting to be held at, which that question still has not been answered!! So for you to get on here & call people lazy, & act the way you have is very unprofessional & maybe you should take a minute to think about your actions as you are supposed to be a leader of this organization. If you can't handle questions without acting a fool maybe time for you to rethink your roll in the BBCHA, have a nice day

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Mr Yeager, it's not the message that ruffles the feathers, it's the delivery.

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