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I see/hear a lot of people blaming the decline of "family values" in America on our politicians. They are saying that if such and such a party or candidate gets elected then we are in big trouble. Or that the decline is the result of the politicians that have been in office for the last several years. Do y'all really believe this? Is the decline in family values not caused by the parents/families not teaching their children good family values or everyone not setting a good example for the children? Do y'all really believe that you can "legislate" family values? Or are our politicians simply a reflection of what is happening at the grass roots/family homes in America. I believe that if we want to make a change then we have to start at the bottom in our own homes and let it rise to the top rather than in Washington and let it run downhill. For we all know that the cream rises to the top and **** runs downhill.

What do y'all think?

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Amen. Unplug yourself and your kids and spend time with them. Teach them. Show them the path. They won't learn it on a screen.

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Both. We need family values, but we took prayer out of the schools. Some kids never had much of a family life, so at least in school, where they for 8 hours a day, had some type of morals. It's the people who were in school without prayer, that are now raising children. So as time goes by, they get a little worse. We need a Godly president to lead us back to are moral values that we once had.

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I believe they have passed quite a bit of legislation that goes against our family values . In many households liberalism has taken place , in public schools and college institutions across the country our they attempt to force a liberal agenda instead of the core principles we hold dear . Yes family values should be taught at home but a sad fact many children don't come from a strong family background with parents who guide them and our current administrations lack of following and encouraging conservative beliefs and following of God's principles is leading many down a steep path . You can only shelter them from so much , there has been an agenda to change America as we know it for decades and before our very eyes it is taking place . The changing of our children is a big focus of the easiest way to change our society . Heck in many schools kids can choose what restroom to use based on what gender they identify with . Would hate to think of my reaction if one of my daughters while in elementary school accidentally walked in on male who pretended to be a girl or sharing a high school locker room changing clothes with a gender identity it .
So an answer to your question yes everything begins at home but it sure would help to have a God fearing men and women leading our country from local school boards to the president .

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I believe they have passed quite a bit of legislation that goes against our family values . In many households liberalism has taken place , in public schools and college institutions across the country our they attempt to force a liberal agenda instead of the core principles we hold dear . Yes family values should be taught at home but a sad fact many children don't come from a strong family background with parents who guide them and our current administrations lack of following and encouraging conservative beliefs and following of God's principles is leading many down a steep path . You can only shelter them from so much , there has been an agenda to change America as we know it for decades and before our very eyes it is taking place . The changing of our children is a big focus of the easiest way to change our society . Heck in many schools kids can choose what restroom to use based on what gender they identify with . Would hate to think of my reaction if one of my daughters while in elementary school accidentally walked in on male who pretended to be a girl or sharing a high school locker room changing clothes with a gender identity it .

MAKES IT TOUGH WHEN THE SCHOOL HAS THEM AS MUCH OR MORE THAN THE PARENTS AND THE SCHOOL IS TEACHING CONTRARY TO WHAT THE PARENT IS. GO AFR
So an answer to your question yes everything begins at home but it sure would help to have a God fearing men and women leading our country from local school boards to the president .

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Shouldn't they be praying at home? How many parents take the time to sit down and have a word of prayer with their children before they go off to school? It has been 50 years since I went to school, but I still remember a lot of it. We had prayer but it was only superficial. And as far as morals in school, oh my goodness. Y'all must have gone to a very different school than the school that I went to. And I remember the President at the time was John F Kennedy. Wasn't he the guy that was having sex with Marilyn Monroe? And what a liberal he was. He started the civil rights movement. And then there was Richard Nixon. He wasn't a liberal. He was a Consevative crook with no morals either. Have the politicians really changed? I don't have any figures to back it up but it also seems to me that there were just as many abortions back before they were government funded. You just did not know/hear about them.

I think that the gentleman that said to unplug the TV may be on to something. It seems to me that the decline in moral values could be attributed to the TV as much as anything. I wonder where the media and the politicians would be if no one watched them on TV. And I wonder how many school/mall shootings we would have if they weren't seen all over the country. And also what would the terrorists do if no one reported their shootings/bombings? I don't see any difference in the politicians from many years ago but I sure do see a big difference in the Television.

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Oh yeah, I also remember Woodstock. Everyone blamed the decline in moral values on Rock N Roll back then. A lot of parents would not let their children listen to it. Now I saw on the news that President Obama was listening to rock n roll on one of those new gadgets. Maybe rock n roll has caused the problems.

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Amen. Unplug yourself and your kids and spend time with them. Teach them. Show them the path. They won't learn it on a screen.

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Oh yeah, I also remember Woodstock. Everyone blamed the decline in moral values on Rock N Roll back then. A lot of parents would not let their children listen to it. Now I saw on the news that President Obama was listening to rock n roll on one of those new gadgets. Maybe rock n roll has caused the problems.

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We can teach the values, morals and live them. But when you turn around send your kid the school and they have counselors so the kids can talk to them about wanting to be gay, bi, transgender. And that its all good, or the whitehouse lit up in rainbow colors, or all the cussing, sex violence on TV. How can one compete. Well what we did was started a Christian academy. We are in our third year of the vision sent to us from God. My child leads us in prayer, understands right from wrong the curriculum is very strenuous. And best of all God is in every classroom, every teacher and every student. Its a huge sacrifice but its worth every bit of it.

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I know that the Amish don't have TV, they raise their children to believe in God, they have their own schools, and the head of their church is their top government official. But I don't have any experience with Amish people. (other than what I see on TV ) I sometimes wonder if we could not learn from them. Does anyone have any real experience with Amish people?

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IMHO when low wages forced mothers into the workforce. It takes two incomes now just to make ends meet. Blame whoever makes you feel good , but our wages haven't keep up with production. When a CEO makes hundreds of times more than workers it clauses a problems. Reaganomics (trickle-down) Doesn't work. It all has added to the decline in Morals and values. GREED isn't good.

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May not be real popular but I blame social services. When I was a kid a lot of us had Attention Deficit Disorder. You wouldn't believe how fast a keen switch got us over it. No such thing as taking a pill and sitting in a corner for timeout. Moma's taught their kids to dance like an Indian around the campfire. While she held you by one hand and went to switching you would hop on one leg as long as you could stand it then switch to the other leg. Next time she gave an order you did pay attention.
I see so many kids that need introducing to the switch that im glad aren't mine or I would be in trouble.

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I know that the Amish don't have TV, they raise their children to believe in God, they have their own schools, and the head of their church is their top government official. But I don't have any experience with Amish people. (other than what I see on TV ) I sometimes wonder if we could not learn from them. Does anyone have any real experience with Amish people?

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I know that the Amish don't have TV, they raise their children to believe in God, they have their own schools, and the head of their church is their top government official. But I don't have any experience with Amish people. (other than what I see on TV ) I sometimes wonder if we could not learn from them. Does anyone have any real experience with Amish people?

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There are Amish bullies, there are Amish theives, there are Amish murderers and rapists. The ONLY difference is that the church steps in and the state drops the charges 99% of the time. The only time it doesn't work like this is if the person in trouble is disliked by everyone. And yes I can give plenty of examples.

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There are Amish bullies, there are Amish theives, there are Amish murderers and rapists. The ONLY difference is that the church steps in and the state drops the charges 99% of the time. The only time it doesn't work like this is if the person in trouble is disliked by everyone. And yes I can give plenty of examples.

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My hole famlies sold Morals this year one bach. Morals bought 10 Dollars per pownd. Values way down on Mush rooms.

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mark is right ive been around amish for yrs from dealing in horses know them in ohio maryland and indiana i always enjoy going to indiana thier more out going out there have 1 freind out there that will put ya up for the nite if ya wanna stay but we always get a motel and just go vist im not going this yr but the 11 and 12th they have 2 good horse pulls my buddy goin out but as mark said you can be the best of freinds and still really don't know everything that goes on

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To many parents aren't takin the time to raise they're kids. Instead they just set em in front of the tv and let Hollywierd raise them. And there's to many broken homes. A child needs both mom and dad. Not just mom or not mommy 1 and mommy 2 or vice versa.

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