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Russell matlock
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Registered: Apr 2012
Location: South Central Missouri
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Waiting 7 minutes to squall

Friday night I went to a Ukc hunt and I'm not exaggerating any but we literally wasted at least 45 minutes of our hunting time just sitting or standing waiting so we could squall. I don't hunt a lot of Ukc but I don't understand why we should have to wait? A tree could be scored in 4 to 5 minutes if we were allowed to squall as soon as we started shining. Either a coon is gonna look or it ain't in the first couple minutes and if not turn on the brights to see if we can see it. Could somebody please explain the reasoning behind waiting 7 minutes to squall? My opinion is that it is a big waste of valuable time.....thanks for reading!!

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john Duemmer
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The reasoning is to not interfear with other dogs that are working, but it is an outdated rule that should be changed, contact your breed rep and propose a rule change.

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This rule is for the dogs that are not walkers that will not hold tree pressure LOL

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Agreed... If it's a thick leafy tree and you shine for 7 mins with it not looking chances are the coon won't look when you finally have a chance to squall because you have already hit it with a bright light or something. If a dog is going to pull and come to a squaller then you should go back to the drawing board and work your dog. This is definately a rule that needs changed.

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According to my simple arithmetic, if you were held up 45 minutes, that means you treed at least six and a half coons, what was your score?

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How many looked once you could squall?

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eric henry
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This rule along with several more is why i dont attend many ukc hunts either.We are there to score coons not just walk around and look into the sky for seven minutes.Most people are so afraid that their dog will come into those trees when they start squalling,all they need is broke from backing another dog everytime they hear a coon squalling.

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Russell matlock
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I didn't have much of a score and this didn't affect me winning in any way but two of the other guys had decent scores and prob could have been better if we hadn't wasted so much time waiting to squall. This was a big hunt. I think there was 35 nite champions so it was gonna take a good score to win and I feel the time we wasted waiting to squall could have cost our cast winner a chance of scoring on more coon and maybe a win. We scored a total of 8 trees and 4 out of the 8 were plus trees.

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Greg Burks
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When your shining a big ole nasty tree that 7 minutes seems like an hour...I would reather squall and score the tree and get back to huntin

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That rule along with a few others needed changed a long time ago its sure not about who has the best dog anymore and that is what it is supposed to be about

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I was on the cast we had several splits never had all 4 on the same tree. Killed valuable time waiting to squall I found last coon at 9 minutes into shine time. I would like to see this rule updated some way with either no wait time or less wait time.

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ronald schultz
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according to the judge on cast i guided lastnite

You can't squall at all with dogs other places. Oh you also don't need to go to dogs fighting over dead coon

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howie
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This is a B.S. Rule. You should be able to squall when shine time starts. If your dog pulls to a squaller it needs minuses anyhow. I pretty sure this rule has been voted on in the past and voted to keep it the same. Why anyone would want to leave the rule the same is beyond me.

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