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I have been out of the sport since the early 90’s and really liked the old blood hounds and just don’t see much of it in all these dogs advertised now these days. I liked all the Hillbilly Mack bloodlines, Diamond Jim, & the Bellars Pac-Man blood. I see MR. Mike Shannon has the Mack blood still going with his line breeding, but what about Diamond Jim & Bellars Pac- Man who has those line's ???

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I also got out of it back in 94. I hunted a few walkers and had redbones back then. I started back up last year and wonder the same thing...what happened to all those old blood lines?? I guess the guys that had and promoted them cant go on forever. One thing I was surprised to see, although he didn't really have very many pups as big name dogs go, less than 200 and not a very high percentage either. But a blood still much talked about and much sought after today is Logan's Wild Clover. Many people thought he was flat out ugly, but I like that look. I really would have thought that the Yadkin River, Finley River, Lone Pine, River Bend, Hardwood, etc. would have been a lot more talked about and seen in more pedigrees today but it doesn't seem so.
Still, there's old Clover and even if you don't go after that line, most guys are glad to see it back in their dogs pedigrees today.

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Some of that old blood is still around, just a little hard to find sometimes. A friend made a cross last year with Diamond Jim in the fourth gen, and I am still hanging on to quite a bit of FR Chief stock.
You wont find it in most pedigrees like you did back then, but it can be found.

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yep the old blood is still around , just the names were changed to protect the innocent lol . I hunted hard and wide and finally found what I was looking for . I made the 8 hour one way drive and am happy as I can be that I did . I bought me a couple of pups m/f that are loaded on the bottom side FINLEY RIVER and out of the rat dogs on top . I think it will be a good combination .

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Robert,
I have one from a cross that I made that is the opposite of yours. FR on top and Rat/ Skuna River on bottom. I am pleased with him, very balanced.

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I have a nice coon dog that goes back to Pac-Man in his 4th gen.Going to get pups from him hopefully in Jan. or Feb. ??? Going to breed coon dogs to coon dogs and see what happens !!! If anyone is interested in breeding to my male hes performance sire for 2015 ??

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I had a son of Pac Man back in the day.

Hard tree dog, good mouth, extremely athletic hound with a ton of drive.

He got early retirement for being ill.

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I would love to get my hands on a nice Beller bloodline pup if anyone happens to know were 1 is at

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I have a nice coon dog that goes back to Pac-Man in his 4th gen.Going to get pups from him hopefully in Jan. or Feb. ??? Going to breed coon dogs to coon dogs and see what happens !!! If anyone is interested in breeding to my male hes performance sire for 2015 ??

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Just getting back into hunting again looking for a femal full of old blood with a lot of Russ Beller's blood.

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What bloodline do u got kjo

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My male has a lot of the old foundation blood in him. I got him from guys that pleasure and meat hunted for the last 30+ years. Bellar's Pac- Man, Yadkin Tar Rattler, Table Rock Spot, Yadkin River Chico, Nocturnal Nailor, Ball's Hickory Nut Harry. Not many titled dogs on his pedigree up close not all Grand pedigree but he is all coondog loud fast accurate he was put in two UKC nite hunts he got 1st and 2nd place in ??? And my female is same she has all the right tools I like her even better.

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like to talk to you if you going to do some breeding 7067673703

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Is MR.Beller still raising hounds or is he out of it ? If he still has hounds could someone help me out on contacting him ?

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Is MR.Beller still raising hounds or is he out of it ? If he still has hounds could someone help me out on contacting him ?

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I have been out of the sport since the early 90’s and really liked the old blood hounds and just don’t see much of it in all these dogs advertised now these days. I liked all the Hillbilly Mack bloodlines, Diamond Jim, & the Bellars Pac-Man blood. I see MR. Mike Shannon has the Mack blood still going with his line breeding, but what about Diamond Jim & Bellars Pac- Man who has those line's ???

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Got a male 1 1/2 yr bluetick with Diamond Jim in his 3,5,6th generation.

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Got a male 1 1/2 yr bluetick with Diamond Jim in his 3,5,6th generation.

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I think that would be a different Diamond Jim, friend.

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I have a male that goes back to pac-man top and bottom that is 2 and half and is doing very well. He is the one on the left. He treed 2 of those three himself. I plan on breeding him to my female that is directly off of insain cain in the near future. Would anybody be interested?

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