Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Clarksville, AR
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Currently hunting two nice pups, and I'm curious what the peanut gallery feels will mature into the "better" hound.

Pup one is 12 months old. Decent mouth, junky, busy, close/medium hunter, accurate, trailing type dog. He could hunt a little harder, he could be a better treedog at times, but is usually solid. Nearly caught a deer one night. Can wind a possum across a 20 acre hay meadow. You never walk past a coon to go to this pup. Walks around on his him legs winding all the time. Can straddle a bad track in a bad spot, walk it down and tree it. Almost never misses, unless he trying to tree a layup and picks the wrong tree. Can be a bit big eared at times.

Pup two is ten months old. Bigger mouth, big hunter, straight so far, accurate, real treedog. Hot nosed, semi-tight mouthed. Will pass coons up. Will walk under a layup and never notice it. You can send this pup in a herd of deer and not worry about a race. Can be half a mile deep and treed quick as any I've seen. Stone cold independent. This pup can also spend way too much time skipping through the country. Has absolutely no handle, will ignore you yelling and whistling from 200 yards away. Will run fields and never consider dropping in a fencerow, or looking for timber to hunt out.

Each of these pups have strengths they were born with, and holes I'm fixing. I don't use a shocker when I can help it, and I think you can simply hunt alot of nonsense out of a dog. Neither has been hunted with an old dog at all.
Thanks for your opinions!

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Registered: Mar 2008
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Pup #2 for me, i just prefer a tight mouth and i live in thick coon so have no use for a trailing type hound.

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Pup #1 hide hunting and comp. hunts.Hopefully will tree coon behind dogs like #2
Pup #2 comp. hunting only.{Deep and lonely}

All young pups that have the desire to chase game are gonna be junky.They all go through it.

Where I'm at {Michigan} I don't want a hot nosed dog.When the ground gets cold/frozen.They won't make it.

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I choose pup #2 because;

If pup #1 is medium to close hunter and still junky then that problem may very well get worse, and worse, and worse. And one of my pet peeves is I do NOT like a junky dog.

Now if pup #1 is only pretty much sight chasing deer and drops off after 200 yards or so then I may be able to stop that but if he is trailing deer through the country then I believe you may have a much bigger problem.

Having said that I like a trailing dog over a tight mouthed dog. But they better be trailing coons and not deer, LOL.

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#1 all day long

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Give me number two. Both pups should get better as far as coon treeing ability but you can't put drive in a dog. When it gets bad. Number two will lonely with two looking down, while number one is at best working a bad track.
I'm from Michigan to and had a lot of success with dogs that get through the country. 300 to 500 coon a year with those kind of dogs.
Just because a dog doesn't open up as quick as others doesn't mean he can't smell the same track. It's just what gets him excitited to bark.

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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Clarksville, AR
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Good answers.

I figured it would be #2 in a landslide.

I'm pretty excited about both pups. I kinda set a goal for myself with these two, and plan to hunt them through the winter without much if any exposure to other dogs. The first pup I described steadily gets better, seems like he "gets it" when you expose him to stuff, but he's the type that's gonna have to have the wheels hunted off.
Second pup could make anyone feel like a pup trainer. Just turn her loose and watch it happen. I wish she'd hunt her country better, and I've even questioned whether she might be deaf. Doesn't respond to calling, or another dog barking, nothing. That said, it's hard to find too much fault in a 10-11 month old pup that drops half a mile in the country and trees coons alone. Quirks or no.

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Cory you keep number one and let me take number 2. I would hate for you to spend any time with him. He willnt make much!

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number1 dog is liable to tree several coons as yall are walking to number 2 dog.i would take no.1 dog and go tree coons and have fun doing it.

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I would say #1 just because he doesn't pass coons up and he is accurate. What fun is a tree dog with no meat in the tree. Plus I like a dog that can wind em.

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MOST IF THEY ARE VERY GAMEY OR JUNKY WILL TURN OUT

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#2 because fast game cases are no fun.

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