Registered: May 2004
Location: ozark mts nc ark
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I've got a 15 month old walker pup. He's been doing a good job by himself since he was ten months. Up until two weeks ago. He can't seem to get treed. He's striking, running, then bogging down and wallowing the track around for 45 minutes until I finally go get him. This has happened the last 5 tracks. He's not burned out. He's trying his butt off. Just ain't been able to get it done lately.

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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Mercer PA
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Dogs go through periods like this for a variety of reason. It could be the dog, it could be coon movement. You can do one of two things, hunt him through it or give him a break. If he has been doing that long, he knows what to do....there will be better nights. If it keeps happening, don't let him just bog down, go in and send get him off the track. Send him on and praise him when he gets treed.

Some dogs just don't know when to give up a track they can't handle.

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Maybe he is running a litter of coons. It can be hard for an experienced dog to figure them out. I had a dog that would make a big circle to check his trees. He looked like crap on litters of coon. He would trail for ever and i would catch him or he would eventualy end at a den. Good luck.

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Thanks for the replies. They both make me feel a little better about the situation!

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Registered: Mar 2013
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I have a 4good year old ntch that seems to pretty much do the same thing u decribe this time of year it takes him longer than usual to line one out ...so i doubt its your dog most likely your getting on a sow feeding with some kittens theres better nites to come...keep huntin him he will line one out

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Registered: Nov 2006
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I WOULD SAY 90% OF THE PUPS I'VE OWNED ALL STALLED OUT AROUND THAT AGE.. JUST KEEP ENCOURAGING HIM HE'LL WORK THROUGH IT

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Location: Pennsylvania
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I would lay him up, wouldn't want this to be habit.
You may think he isn't burned out but if he isn't progressing, I would seriously question that.
How much are you hunting him?
Could also be he needs hunted more.. hard to say.
Also if it is something physically like a cold or something, laying him up would also help.

Could also be he is trying harder tracks, and there taking longer to work out. Also probably wouldn't want this to be a habit.

Plus what the others guys said, could be a stage, could be a litter of coons. Could be too much scent on the ground, try hunting some different spots or terrain.

Idk, just some ideas

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He started treeing on his own at 10 months. I hunted him only a couple times a week at first. Around a year old, maybe three to four nights, but just for one drop. He was jammin. Then I laid him up a month during turkey season. After that, I started hunting him again, just a couple nights a week cause it gets dark so late. He was jammin. Then a couple weeks ago, he didn't finish his track. Bogged down. And the same results the next four drops/nights. When I go to get him to go hunting, he dang near cuts backflips. Collar him up and let him go, he loads up himself. Hit the woods and cut him, he runs off and gets struck. When I go in to get him cause he ain't making progress after 30-45 minutes, he tries to avoid me to keep working. He don't want to quit. I don't think he's burned out.

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he might be tackling some bad tracks now that hes getting older.when a dog is young the first coons they tree are the really hot tracks,when they get older they will start to run the cold tracks. i usually let my dog work out them bad tracks because theres not many coons here and sometimes thats all is out there for them to run.

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Registered: Jul 2006
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All dogs go through it at one time or another. Try knocking one out to him if you can. That seems to get some dogs focused and back in line.

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I'd say it could very well be a sow and bunch of kitten's. I have been finding kitten coon tracks around my feeder's here the last 2 weeks so they are for sure on the ground in my area........ When a good dog gets in a situation like that it's tough for them to figure it out because of all the scent being left. So I would say it would be super hard for a pup to figure out. Is it in the same area every time? If so try hunting it in a different area and see how the pup looks. Also try hunting the area at different times. It may be a cold track and the pup is trying to figure it out and can't... I have had this happen to experienced dogs and end in a den tree or hole. Then the next night go a few hours earlier and end up with the meat in the tree and the dog strike in the same exact place they did the night before.

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it aint your dog buddy!! all my young dogs are lookin stupid right now. all those kittens moveing around and leaveing scent in bushes got my young dogs lookin like boooo ticks!! keep pushin through it. this is what makes those big winners!!

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Maybe he is running a litter of coons. It can be hard for an experienced dog to figure them out. I had a dog that would make a big circle to check his trees. He looked like crap on litters of coon. He would trail for ever and i would catch him or he would eventualy end at a den. Good luck.

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The first track went o.k. . after that though it was tough for them. They never really got done the rest of the night... the second drop, pony got in there and hit a tree hard with coon that was easy to see(they joined her kinda half hearted. On the next drop I was thinking my female may have located on 3 kits before she locked tight on what I believe was the ma coon, she was very active in the tree... it was all o.k with me ,gave me a nt.ch. win!

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Registered: May 2004
Location: ozark mts nc ark
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Thanks for all the help guys. I'm sure he'll pull through. Neither one of us has much quit. He's a good dog. Got a decent handle. Started him lightly with a 7 year old gyp, and mostly hunted him alone. By the end of the kill season, he was split treeing from her with the meat, and pulled her from her tree twice.

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Watch out for arlichia. It will mess up their nose and cause em to not track right.

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Watch out for arlichia. It will mess up their nose and cause em to not track right.

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