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4 dog cast with A-D struck in that order. A and B treed right after each other to the right 40 yards. C treed to the left 30 yards 1 minute later. D is then treed with A and B before the 5 minutes are run out. Since all dogs are treed the handlers start towards their respective dogs. Handler of C is right beside tree and getting ready to leash when A and B dog come to the C tree. Handler A retrees his dog, while B does not. D leaves its tree but is on trail. After all cast members are at C's tree and starting to shine then D comes into tree. Was C's tree closed and did handler C cause interference? How would you score this if the tree was circle, minus or plus? I know the minuses on the first tree for A, B , and D but the rest?

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If your at the tree and shining tree is close i'd say.

for dog D that comes in AFTER cast arrives{closed tree};
minus strike if coon is seen
circle strike if tree is minused or circled
nothing on tree as dog was not declared treed as tree was closed

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I'll take a stab
A tree 125- , 125- strike pending
B tree -75 strike pending
D tree -50 strike pending

Score strike according to prostockpat

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For scoring purposes it will need to be determined exactly WHEN Dogs A&B came in to Dog C's tree. Was it before or after the "judge arrived"? I'm going to assume they came in AFTER the judge arrived.

Circle tree:
A 100 strike circled/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike circled/75 tree minus
C 50 strike circled/125 tree circle
D 25 strike cricled/50 tree minus

Plus tree:
A 100 strike minus/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike minus/75 tree minus
C 50 strike plus /125 tree plus
D 25 strike minus/50 tree minus

Minus tree:
A 100 strike circled/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike circled/75 tree minus
C 50 strike minus/125 tree minus
D 25 strike circled/50 tree minus

How would Handler C have interfered? Did he not handle his dog, upon instruction from the judge?

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4 dog cast with A-D struck in that order. A and B treed right after each other to the right 40 yards. C treed to the left 30 yards 1 minute later. D is then treed with A and B before the 5 minutes are run out. Since all dogs are treed the handlers start towards their respective dogs. Handler of C is right beside tree and getting ready to leash when A and B dog come to the C tree. Handler A retrees his dog, while B does not. D leaves its tree but is on trail. After all cast members are at C's tree and starting to shine then D comes into tree. Was C's tree closed and did handler C cause interference? How would you score this if the tree was circle, minus or plus? I know the minuses on the first tree for A, B , and D but the rest?

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For scoring purposes it will need to be determined exactly WHEN Dogs A&B came in to Dog C's tree. Was it before or after the "judge arrived"? I'm going to assume they came in AFTER the judge arrived.

Circle tree:
A 100 strike circled/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike circled/75 tree minus
C 50 strike circled/125 tree circle
D 25 strike cricled/50 tree minus

Plus tree:
A 100 strike minus/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike minus/75 tree minus
C 50 strike plus /125 tree plus
D 25 strike minus/50 tree minus

Minus tree:
A 100 strike circled/125 tree minus/125 tree minus (for treeing his dog AFTER a tree is closed)
B 75 strike circled/75 tree minus
C 50 strike minus/125 tree minus
D 25 strike circled/50 tree minus

How would Handler C have interfered? Did he not handle his dog, upon instruction from the judge?

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How was it scored?

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How was it scored?

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The tree was a circle and I think it was scored wrong. All dogs got circle on that tree and on track. Dog A did not get minused for being called treed on C's tree. Since all dogs were treed I presume all trees are closed? Thats the major part of my question.

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Originally posted by tg3375
The tree was a circle and I think it was scored wrong. All dogs got circle on that tree and on track. Dog A did not get minused for being called treed on C's tree. Since all dogs were treed I presume all trees are closed? Thats the major part of my question.

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11c -does having all dogs treed and one on a split make the 2 trees closed if one should leave and go to the others tree?

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Seems the only real ? is weather 5b applies to dog A when handler C was at that tree before dog A arrived? Doesnt seem right that dog A.s score depends on weather or not handler C was the judge.

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How did Handler C interfere? Did C shine before shining time started? Did C squall before the seven minutes were up, because you said Dog D went back on the track, and then came to Dog C's tree.

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Dog A and B went directly to C's tree just as handler C got to the tree. Handler C did not shine or squall and was planning on going to the first tree where the rest of the cast was. If the tree was not closed could it be considered interference? If it is closed then A should get a 125- on C's tree. Dog D was on track until the whole cast got there, so he would only get minus on track if coon was seen.

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Dog A and B went directly to C's tree just as handler C got to the tree. Handler C did not shine or squall and was planning on going to the first tree where the rest of the cast was. If the tree was not closed could it be considered interference? If it is closed then A should get a 125- on C's tree. Dog D was on track until the whole cast got there, so he would only get minus on track if coon was seen.

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Originally posted by patches9452
tree was closed as soon as all dogs were treed no matter how little time it took. Anything that moved should be minused and if retreed on a closed tree minused again

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That is mainly what I was wondering if the tree was closed. Is John B correct in all the scoring then? Or do some points need to be split?

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