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Have you seen them?

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seen Mountain Lions in Colorado, near Alamosa............and in Florida, in the Falkahatchie Strand area..............thought I saw bigfoot once in Alabama..............but it was just a long haired girl with a thyroid problem.............

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have seen both mountain lions, and the black colored mountain lions here in oklahoma, several times.

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Where is this?

I also dated the sasquatch from Alabama, The one I saw could camoflage herself after midnight but reverted to her ugly self after the sun came up.

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Saw a black panther in a Florida zoo, saw a mountain lion cross US 20 in Oregon one time and was married to Sasquatch for a short while. And no, they aren't worth anything.

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I also dated the sasquatch from Alabama, The one I saw could camoflage herself after midnight but reverted to her ugly self after the sun came up.

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a black panther is just another color phase of a mountain lion...So it is a mountain lion too, No big Deal... We have them here in Pa. Game Commision says NO WAY,, someones illegal pet escaped if one does exsist... They are such BSers it aint even funny... Truth be told that is an animal who is expanding it's range throughout the East and game and wildlife departments won't admit to it...There are too many photos of them that have been captured on these trail cams it is a reality..

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Seen her at the bar last night!

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Guys first off I would like anyone that thinks that mnt lions are black please show me some proof?Like a black mounted mnt lion?As of today no black mnt lion,cougar,puma,or panther has ever been killed in the Americas!!!!!Now a lot of Jags are black and you can not always see their rossetts from a distance or at night.Some cougars are darker colored but not black,for some reason this mutant color phase does not exist in felisconcolor?If you have seen a big cat and it is black it is a jag or a lepoard that has been let go by someone that wanted it to be free or could not handle it anylonger?I have put up a few hundred mnt lions with my dogs all over this country and I could only hope all the times I have been on calls that they saw a black lion it was true only once?.If a black lion was somewhere in the east don't you think with the ten thousands of tree dogs someone would put one up and get a pic,do you know how much it would be worth?See ya Mav

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I have seen at a couple small tackle stores where the wildlife commision has put up some signs inguirng on any sightings in Pender Co. and Columbus Co.

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Guys first off I would like anyone that thinks that mnt lions are black please show me some proof?Like a black mounted mnt lion?As of today no black mnt lion,cougar,puma,or panther has ever been killed in the Americas!!!!!Now a lot of Jags are black and you can not always see their rossetts from a distance or at night.Some cougars are darker colored but not black,for some reason this mutant color phase does not exist in felisconcolor?If you have seen a big cat and it is black it is a jag or a lepoard that has been let go by someone that wanted it to be free or could not handle it anylonger?I have put up a few hundred mnt lions with my dogs all over this country and I could only hope all the times I have been on calls that they saw a black lion it was true only once?.If a black lion was somewhere in the east don't you think with the ten thousands of tree dogs someone would put one up and get a pic,do you know how much it would be worth?See ya Mav

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I got a Black Panther mounted... but I refuse to let Coon Dawg see it!

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I got a Black Panther mounted... but I refuse to let Coon Dawg see it!

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have seen both mountain lions, and the black colored mountain lions here in oklahoma, several times.

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place i have seen the what i call fla mt lion..it was a brownish color. around 1960 when we lived in lake placid. it came in and took a large mouth bass head we had nailed to a pine tree...LOL! and coon dawg...i just bought a walker from a fla friend...LOL!!! we have "changed in mid-stream"...LOL!!!

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one of myi neighbors got a black one on video 2 years ago here,
two years ago i saw a black one with a brown one on our place, and my son saw them again last year, together that time also.

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How come the 2 big foot sighters have not chimed in.

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Well you would be correct for most of the US. The Florida Panther however is commonly black and it's range used to be the entire SouthEastern US. I don't think Panthers exist in the Northern US other than a stray one or two displaced from it's natural range as is possible with any animal.

One of the Biology professors at Cumberland University caught, documented, and kept as a pet a Cain Break Rattle snake thought only to exist in Florida. He caught it at his home in Smithville Tennessee. It looks nothing like our Rattle Snakes, it's short and stubby. At the time I learned of it that was the only documented Cain Break Rattler outside the state of Florida and maybe South Georgia (I think they were supposedly confined to the cain breaks of South Florida though). He made the books with it.

On the displacement line, the Florida Panther has been documented as far north as Kentucky but it is extremely rare.

They are mostly in Florida and South Georgia from what I remember when I read about them with occasional stragglers in Miss, Bama, SC, and TN. However I do believe it has been years since one has been documented anywhere other than Florida/South Georgia. They come in varying shades, but they are commonly black, or at least black as compared to their Western counterparts.



From that same site, the official Florida Panther site

"Once the panther ranged throughout Florida as well as throughout much of the southeastern United States from Louisiana north and east to Tennessee and the Atlantic. Today only about 70 adult panthers remain in national and state parks and nearby private lands in southwest Florida, making them among the most endangered animals in the world."

If you do see a black panther you would be seeing one of the most rare animals in the world. That said, that same site said 44 had been ran over by cars sinc 1977 or so. I would think they are much more prevalant than they say if that many of them are hit by cars. They are pretty reclusive and intelligent.

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i did see bigfoot early one morning about 25 years ago


































she shore looked better the night before, either that or my eyesite had improved.

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Guys first off I would like anyone that thinks that mnt lions are black please show me some proof?Like a black mounted mnt lion?As of today no black mnt lion,cougar,puma,or panther has ever been killed in the Americas!!!!!Now a lot of Jags are black and you can not always see their rossetts from a distance or at night.Some cougars are darker colored but not black,for some reason this mutant color phase does not exist in felisconcolor?If you have seen a big cat and it is black it is a jag or a lepoard that has been let go by someone that wanted it to be free or could not handle it anylonger?I have put up a few hundred mnt lions with my dogs all over this country and I could only hope all the times I have been on calls that they saw a black lion it was true only once?.If a black lion was somewhere in the east don't you think with the ten thousands of tree dogs someone would put one up and get a pic,do you know how much it would be worth?See ya Mav

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One other point. There's alot of things I have never seen in my life. I have never seen a wild bear, even though they are all over the state of Tennessee. I even went to Cades Cove several times and have never seen one, just unlucky that way I guess. I have never seen a porcupine either, even though have hunted in their range quite a bit. I would be a bit arrogant to accuse everyone that ever mentioned seeing one of being a liar or "seeing things".


It seems we as humans have a problem with that at times. People that have never owned an accurate dog will SWEAR they don't exist. People that have hunted up north all their life will SWEAR coons don't go into holes. People that have only hunted in the deep South will SWEAR every hole is a dillar. Where I am from if it circles it's a Fox, no way is it a deer. In other areas of the country a deer will circle as well.

Everybody is off in their own little world completely oblivious that the Internet has allowed us to share things with people all over the country. In reality animals do different things in different areas of the country and we need to get used to the fact that just because we personally have never done it, or don't have dogs with that ability, doesn't mean many many other people haven't.

Not meaning this in a bad way toward anybody, it's just a pet peeve of mine that I have noticed about the Internet. It is a little different since used to when we told huntin stories we were usually talkin to someone rather close geography wise. Now the huntin story I post may be read by people in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Maine, Oklahoma, and Califirornia all at the same time. There is a big difference in the habitat of all these places and a big difference in terrain and how those animals act as well and just because those animals don't act that way "around here" or I have never seen something doesn't mean the person telling the story isn't telling the 100% God's honest truth.

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Last year in the early spring a News 9 helicopter out of Oklahoma City was headed to a story and while in flight the reporter spotted a large Black animal crossing a small clearing. They turned on the mounted camera on the helicopter and began to film it. The footage was shown on the news later that evening and though the footage was a little too far away zoologists said it could be nothing but a large black cat of some type. It crossed about half way across the field and climbed up into a big tree in the clearing. It was estimated that its length was between 6-7' in length head to tail. What it was exactly who knows but there are black panther sightings recorded in our state since they started keeping track of stuff like that.

I also was told by a Oklahoma game and fish employee a few years ago that the state had released some Mt. Lions in the Cimmaron River basin to control deer populations in areas where the hunting pressure was very light. This was not public knowledge due to the resistance they would get from ranchers and farmers in this area.

I have had several friends tell me they have seen large cats along the cimmaron river between Cushing, OK and Yale, OK.

A friend of the families told us that one was killed north of Cushing when it was harassing a neighbors cows. It was tagged and the Game commission came and retrieved immediately.

Though I myself havent seen one in that area I have seen large cat tracks which I believe are too big to be bobcats.

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the other day i was drining from YALE to CUSHING and seen a DARK COLORED BOB CAT. it was HUGE and had a WHITE front shoulder. and i have heard these creatures while hunting on the river at night. brings a new meaning to things that go bump in the night.

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I have a story but very rarely share it with anyone. I've told a few of my closest friends but will not share it again. I know what I saw with my own eyes in northcentral Pennsylvania in the big woods of Clinton county. No one wants to believe it anyways. I'm alot of things but a liar isn't one of them. The only thing I'm going to say is that if you think they aren't around you're fooling yourself.

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