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I see where Obama has shut down the nations largest lead producer. Am I the only one who thinks this is just one more example of the current administrations drive to eliminate guns without us noticing?

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that he was not finished with gun control.

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A baseball bat is much more effective than an unloaded gun. It is very difficult to eliminate guns, not so tough to run us out of ammo.

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I'm sure the Obama lovers on here will explain this away to themselves like they do all of the other crap this adminstration has passed or attempted to pass. For the life of me, I don't see how any hunter can support the gun control crowd, yet they do.

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"It’s important to note that the Doe Run Company has been battling the EPA since at least 2003 and that the particular regulation cited by the company as the reason for the closure is from 2008 — before Barack Obama was even inaugurated".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...or-gun-control/

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I caught that also a Erik back when the news first came out. I would also note that the United States is the most regulated country in the world when it comes to manufacturing.

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I caught that also a Erik back when the news first came out. I would also note that the United States is the most regulated country in the world when it comes to manufacturing.

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"It’s important to note that the Doe Run Company has been battling the EPA since at least 2003 and that the particular regulation cited by the company as the reason for the closure is from 2008 — before Barack Obama was even inaugurated".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...or-gun-control/

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"It’s important to note that the Doe Run Company has been battling the EPA since at least 2003 and that the particular regulation cited by the company as the reason for the closure is from 2008 — before Barack Obama was even inaugurated".

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...or-gun-control/

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Freaking morons.

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Not the most informative post...Ill take Glens point of view over yours ANY DAY!!!!

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Wow. Nice job Eric. Debunk the whole story with a right wing website to boot.
Jim and Bob, you gonna argue with THE BLAZE?

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Freaking morons.

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Yeah. Can you believe people will push these kinds of lies when they are so easily debunked?

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Here's what I found .

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...or-gun-control/

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Wow,talking about nothing left but a lie! Can google anything derogatory about obama but can't even research your own crap,just go with a lie and call yourselves......

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The Blame Obama crowd just can't help themselves. Even when Glenn Beck debunks the story for them…..

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Weather or not this was designed to create a shortage of amunition is kinda irrelavent, the fact remains that the king has been in power for 5 years and could have easily relayed to HIS EPA. that cleaning up the environment is good but doing it by destroying yet another american company that has been in business for over 100 years is not good.
Heck he coulda done it on his cell from the golf course.
The challenge of trying to defend this joker gets tougher by the day doesnt it.

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track/truly What has the current administration done to help the economy in the past 5 yrs? I don't want to hear Bush this and Bush that but what has the current administration done to boost the economy. It is not right that my wife and I get up and go to work everyday and the ones living off the Gov. eat better, have nicer clothes, cars and all the latest electronic gadgets. Tell me what is right about taking from the willing and giving to the unwilling. I am not opposed to taking care of the ones unable to provide for themselves/family. Do you think it's right to grant all the illegals citizenship, I think not.

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track/truly What has the current administration done to help the economy in the past 5 yrs? I don't want to hear Bush this and Bush that but what has the current admionistration done to boost the economy. It is not right that my wife and I get up and go to work everyday and the ones living off the Gov. eat better, have nicer clothes, cars and all the latest electronic gadgets. Tell me what is right about taking from the willing and giving to the unwilling. I am not opposed to taking care of the ones unable to provide for themselves/family. Do you think it's right to grant all the illegals citizenship, I think not.

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Weather or not this was designed to create a shortage of amunition is kinda irrelavent, the fact remains that the king has been in power for 5 years and could have easily relayed to HIS EPA. that cleaning up the environment is good but doing it by destroying yet another american company that has been in business for over 100 years is not good.
Heck he coulda done it on his cell from the golf course.
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Example please of this good living unless you're talking about corporate welfare. Illegals you speak of have been in this country for years,before Obama admin.and have been making alot of people rich or at least well off. Even if anyone showed you anything positive about the past 5 yrs you still couldn't and wouldn't agree, look how fast you're willing to believe a lie.

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My last post on this thread was only a copy of an article on the closing of the Doe Run Company. I posted with NO REMARKS MADE BY ME. Here are FACTS from OBAMA'S anti second amendment stand.

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

On the Second Amendment, Don't Believe Obama

Obama tries to hide behind vague statements of support for "sportsmen" or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don't listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.

****Numbers in Brackets correspond to supporting evidence below****

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia. (17)

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen. (18)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry. (1)

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban. (15)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting. (3)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (4)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense. (5)

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration. (6)

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws. (7)

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research." (8)

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them. (10)

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military. (11)

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines. (12)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping. (13)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers. (14)

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.(16)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.(9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.

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My last post on this thread was only a copy of an article on the closing of the Doe Run Company. I posted with NO REMARKS MADE BY ME. Here are FACTS from OBAMA'S anti second amendment stand.

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

On the Second Amendment, Don't Believe Obama

Obama tries to hide behind vague statements of support for "sportsmen" or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms.

But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don't listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career.

****Numbers in Brackets correspond to supporting evidence below****

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia. (17)

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen. (18)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry. (1)

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban. (15)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting. (3)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities. (4)

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense. (5)

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration. (6)

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws. (7)

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research." (8)

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them. (10)

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military. (11)

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines. (12)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping. (13)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods. (2)

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers. (14)

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.(16)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns. (9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.(9)

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.

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