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Is this a properly filled out score card?

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did not add it up but yes if the math is right

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There is no plus minus values in the right hand column, and no signatures by all cast members

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With no handlers signatures it is an invalid card and should have everyone scratched

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It's just a hypothetical card. What I was looking for was, does the points in the plus,minus columns have to have the plus and minus signs too? I've had people tell me that the card is not complete without them. I am a MOH and never believed they had to have plus and minus signs also. Am I wrong?
I see Jmart says they do.

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Originally posted by The Seeker
It's just a hypothetical card. What I was looking for was, does the points in the plus,minus columns have to have the plus and minus signs too? I've had people tell me that the card is not complete without them. I am a MOH and never believed they had to have plus and minus signs also. Am I wrong?
I see Jmart says they do.

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I can't say I remember who when or where I heard this from but it has always stuck with me and just something I always do

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That card looks fine, as far as the pluses and minuses on the right UKC has already done that for us by designating individual collums for each.

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I new where you were going with the card and yes I have handlers try to scatch me for that,The rules say in the strike and tree columns.

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Originally posted by jmart
I can't say I remember who when or where I heard this from but it has always stuck with me and just something I always do

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Without the signatures, yes it is a complete scorecard. The MOH checklist says all values in the Strike and Tree columns must be scored with a plus, minus, circle, or delete. The "score" box on the far right-hand side does not need values to be considered a complete scorecard.

Here is the kicker, the scorecard could be complete but we can't know for sure without seeing the rest of it. If the judge was also the CW and signed it on the judge's line, then that is considered a completed card and should be accepted. Any handler that did not sign the scorecard would be scratched. For information on signatures, and which ones are required (and where) see pg. 96 (Rule 13 Chapter) of The Advisor.

Also, remember in Rule 13 states: "Any handler failing to sign the scorecard in the woods may have the opportunity to sign upon returning the scorecard to, and in view of, the MOH/HD." If this scorecard were brought to a MOH/HD the best thing they can do is to get the cast members to sign right there. If they have already left for whatever reason then the MOH/HD would have no choice but to scratch those particular dogs.

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Without the signatures, yes it is a complete scorecard. The MOH checklist says all values in the Strike and Tree columns must be scored with a plus, minus, circle, or delete. The "score" box on the far right-hand side does not need values to be considered a complete scorecard.

This was the answer I was looking for when I filled the card out and posted it. Thanks everyone that looked at my post and answered.

Two things in the threads are: You don't have to put anything in the time box, and the right hand "score" box does not have to have plus or minus signs. Maybe it will help someone to not be scratched wrongly.

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Seeker, that's a great post! I would put + or - on everything just to be safe. Thanks for making me put my thinking cap on, on my day off..

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