Registered: Jul 2003
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do faster dogs put coon up smaller trees? just an honest question with honest answers wanted. thanks

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I think you mean hot nosed bushwackers lol

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nope i mean fast track dogs, including ones who take a cold track, turn it into something hot, push the coon and put it up a small tree 1800 yards away....fast track dogs dont always mean hot nosed, but it does help lol

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I think it would depend on were you was hunting mostly .
iv hunted fast and slow , most slow trailers never really ever run a track they just follow the sent untill it ends in my humble opinion ..

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I don't doubt a faster dog may make one climb sooner but I don't believe a faster dog makes them climb any smaller tree.

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ive got a hound right now that is fat and out of shape, ive seen more large trees hunting her the last week then i have seen in the past 2 years. she is slow and extremely out of shape. now my male dog is in excellent mid season form, same drop same place, split treeing on basketball size trees on a consistent basis with coon seen and no dens. just got me thinking, he is so much faster and his trees are so much smaller, whats up with that. we treed 26 times over the weekend, with nearly the same result every time they split, and if they didnt split, still the same smaller trees. love the feed back! thanks everyone

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Guess it depends on where you live I've got one that can flat out drive a track never know what kind of tree you'll be headed to shine but down here in the these hills got alot of big old oaks .

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My vote is yes........ And if they are fast and silent they will show ya a few that never make it to a tree. Seems like common sense to me if a coon is under pressure he wont have time to be picky.

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amen to the big oaks, i know exactly what ur talking about! the leaves haven't hardly fell from the trees yet, how bout yours?

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from what ive seen, more silent dogs, fast track dogs put coons up smaller trees.

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Silent track dog and fast track don't have anything in common !! The silent track dogs nor fast or slow or on a coon before he knows it's there and he doesn't have time to be picky he has to cling or get caught !! And a fast open trailer still I think it would matter what time of year and where you are living!! For example where I live coon are thin and I mostly hunt big river bottoms and have to walk so hunting tree to tree the second tree might be .5 to 1.5 miles away but I don't care how fast they are most coon know well in advance that an open trailer is after them and gen has plenty of time to get where they want to !! Some times of the year they run a lot more than others but most in thin heavy pressured coon country the only time they will be in a smaller tree is if they happen to get caught off guard or something is wrong with them not because hounds ran them so fast they didn't have time to get where they want!!now I would say you are getting into a bunch of coon maybe sow with kittens and then you might gen get some kittens up smaller trees !! Butatleast in my area I can't compare track speed with tree diameter!! I have also had some coon this summer run a lot further than regular years or precious years don't know if cause it's been so dry but I saw my clone female run a coon that wasn't 1 minute ahead of her at 85 degrees and he ran 978 yards and tapped 4 trees getting there and he didn't want to be in that big tree where he did climb he was all over that limb and nervous!

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if the dog gets fast enough it may beat the coon to the tree! uh oh lol!

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lol

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I don't think so my Dan dog wasn't the fast hound in the woods he put a few up small trees.

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In the last few years dogs are surely getting faster and Faster and FASTER. Heck most of them are beating the coons to the tree more than half the time...

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i would say if a fast track dog struck a red hot track the coon is more likely to go up a smaller tree then a dog thats slower on track.if a dogs got to grub a track up the coon more then likely will be in a huge tree when its treed,i dont think it matters if the dog is fast or slow from what little ive seen.

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Originally posted by Jesse Bedward
amen to the big oaks, i know exactly what ur talking about! the leaves haven't hardly fell from the trees yet, how bout yours?

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Many good points have been mentioned..one that has not is a dogs mouth! I have over the years heard a few hundred hounds and mixed breeds tree coon. I learned years ago that coon go up quicker with a particular dogs mouth and others take their tracks out of hearing. Coon now! lol
In the 60's I purchased a 10 yr. old long eared B & T that trotted on track...would not run. It amazed us how his tracks ended close and often short of the coons destination..short trees, small trees. He had a low bawl mouth that did not carry well. We hunted the same mountains for years with many hounds...they had to go over the mountain..out of hearing..he seldom did.

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never though about the mouth of a dog having a effect, it would make some sense though, a loud dog vs a quite one could make a difference. the above mentioned hounds, the one strikes instantly and the one with the smaller trees prefers to line the track up and get it moving before he opens. interesting.

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