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jyd
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Don't won't to russle in feathers !! Got a question for hard core hunters of TW gyps

I know they are gonna be a lot of sarcasm and I quote " I would just quit hunting or let her die of old age before I would do that" or " they aint no such thing .. they dont make them "answers. But I would really like your input on this in a serious way, I'm gonna catch a lot of insults from fellow blue tickers I'm sure for asking a walker man/woman this question. And I know some of you will have hunting buddies that own a blue male that you feel you should mention since he's your friend but I'm wanting to hear about that one that is in his own league not just a good blue dog but a A$$ kicker ( excuse my language but I'm pretty serious) .. And I would appreciate it if we could leave kennel names out also ? And I'm sure some of you figure you have better things to do but if you don't all would be helpful... Ok ! Here's the question ? You hunters that have these TW gyps that you love and love hunting all week and weekends at the hunts or with friends.. If you could only BREED her to a BLUETiCK MALE to get pups ?? What Blue Dog in the last 3 years that you have hunted with and you know is a number one tough hound no matter what's he's hunted against will consistently dominate the cast ? Whether its in the hunts or hide hunting and normally tide behind a barn as the saying goes? What's his name????? And let's leave out Hounds that have passed away ... Just the ones eating breathing and fully Live LOL ! Thanks

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All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
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Present :

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Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
Past:
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I hunted against a blue male here in Indiana named " Northern Blue Boone", he's a Grnite now. He looked far better than most of the blue dogs I've hunted with. Alot of people say blue dogs are slow trackers, but that wasn't the case with him. I seen where he also made it through some rounds for the world this year.

But I only hunted with him that one nite. I don't know his owner from Adam.

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Thanks

Nat and jkidd, hey y'all thanks a lot.... All the info I can get is a plus ! Thanks again, Chris

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Virginia Junk Yard Kennels ........JYD Kennels
Chris Cornell..........................Matt Sebastian
Cana, VA 24317....................Laurel Springs NC
336 648 9919..........................336 927 2818
( Gone But Not Forgotten )
GR NITE CH Virginia Junk Yard Dog ( SPANKY)
***Placed 14th at 2008 UKC World Hunt****
Gr Nite Ch Gr.ChVirginia Junk Yard Atomic Dog ( A.D.
:Nite Ch Gr Ch Virginia Junk Yard Poacher
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SPANKYS NORTHEN BLUE MEG
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VIRGINIA JUNKYARD STORM
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JUNK YARD EL CHAPO
All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
TWs
Present :

GRNITECH Skuna River Knock Em Out John
Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
Past:
GRNITECH Cornell's Slickrock Liz R.I.P.
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quote:
Originally posted by Junior Watson


----------------GRNITECH PR Uchtman's So. Blue Hawk
--------GRNITECH PR Uchtman's SB. Blue Scout
----------------NITECH GRCH PR Chor's Blue Wheatie
----CH GRNITECH PR Uchtman's So Blue Hornet
----------------CH GRNITECH PR Uchtman's Bl. Ranger IV
--------NITECH PR Kuks Backwoods Blue Bell
----------------PR Uchtman's Blue Nancy
NITECH PR Watson's Smoky Mtn Blue Speed (2009/2010/2011/2012/2013 Performance Sire)
----------------Ch NITECH PR Wheatwood Blue Loud
--------GRNITECH PR Davis White River Screach
----------------NITECH CH PR Powder River Blue Pepper
----GRNITECH PR McCullough's Boston Mt Gypsy
----------------NITECH PR Smokey River JBS Chief
--------GRNITECH PR Davis White River Sugar
----------------NITECH PR Nixons Wolf Cr Pebbles


We are offering Speed at stud. He is a 2009/2010/2011/2012 Performance Sire. He finished to NiteCh in 4 hunts with a 1st and 2 2nds. Call for details on pups,started dogs, handling dogs in the hunts and stud fees. Can give references.

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jyd

Just out of courosity whats your reason for wondering, for breeding? Wanting to impresses people from other breeds? I think there's probably a lot of blue's that don't get hunted in nite hunts for some reason or another. The male I own just turned 2, put him in his first hunts last month. His first hunt tied for first but lost coin toss, 2 hunt won first. I'm planning on finishing him to nitech and that'll be it. I really don't care for the headache of the hunts. I just kind of wanted to prove that just because he's big ( 90lbs ) and blue he can win hunts etc. I think there's a lot people with great blue's that just don't go to the nite hunts etc. But your right, it takes a heck of a blue dog to impress people that hunt other breeds.

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I dont know if he can still get pups, but Hillbilly would be my choice for a cross.

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Pounder.

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Honestly to this day I have not seen one that I would cross a top TW female on

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I dont know if he can still get pups, but Hillbilly would be my choice for a cross.


He died!

Chris great question!

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Alright

Thanks y'all,
Some of the dogs I've heard of and some I haven't !! Joeseph, you are on the right track This post I hope can help find the dogs that could help in breeding a more powerful blue hound. I thank all of y'all and let's hear some more input....thanks

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Virginia Junk Yard Kennels ........JYD Kennels
Chris Cornell..........................Matt Sebastian
Cana, VA 24317....................Laurel Springs NC
336 648 9919..........................336 927 2818
( Gone But Not Forgotten )
GR NITE CH Virginia Junk Yard Dog ( SPANKY)
***Placed 14th at 2008 UKC World Hunt****
Gr Nite Ch Gr.ChVirginia Junk Yard Atomic Dog ( A.D.
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GA JUNK YARD TRAPPER
VIRGINIA JUNKYARD STORM
GA JUNK YARD MABEL
JUNK YARD EL CHAPO
All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
TWs
Present :

GRNITECH Skuna River Knock Em Out John
Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
Past:
GRNITECH Cornell's Slickrock Liz R.I.P.
NTCH Cornell's Slickrock Jenny R.I.P.
NTCH Little Woods Smooth Silk R.I.P.
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jyd

Seen where you have spanky blood. How close up, and do you have a gyp for sale? Right now I'm having just the opposite trouble as you, I can't find a good gyp! Seems like lately everbody's looking for a good blue gyp and nobody's selling.

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Don't know the kennel name but when Herbie Hicks from around Ashland ky. Drives into a hunt you can say ole Herbie is packing a dog that is capable of winning the hunt!! Real impressive blue dogs an a good guy to go with his dogs. NICE!!

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Heard people say Spanky was the best hands down . But if I had to breed one to a blue dog it would be pounder .

Blueticks have just as good of tools as walker dogs but blue ticks have sometimes too much nose and not enough hustle and if they do have hustle they only use it when they feel like it . That's the fault in that breed

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Heard people say Spanky was the best hands down . But if I had to breed one to a blue dog it would be pounder .

Blueticks have just as good of tools as walker dogs but blue ticks have sometimes too much nose and not enough hustle and if they do have hustle they only use it when they feel like it . That's the fault in that breed



What about independence Daniel? How many loners you drew in the hunts with the color blue? I have drawn a total of zero in the last several years.

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Then you haven't hunted with the right ones!!! I hunt walker dogs but I'm not colorblind!!! There's a couple that live Around us that will be by themselves 90% of the time. And they have coons!!!!

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A lot of input

Thanks y'all for more info:: the truth is I was reading and posting on the post : Why can't Blue Dogs win the big hunts or something like that ?? As I read and thought about it ? I was posting with rmcmillian and thought it would be good to get thoughts from those that are not prejudice over blue bloodlines or the stuff they have just always hunted. (So hunters of other breeds )Thoughts from outside the box !! I hunt TW's and Blues always have... Started with TW's until I got a pup directly off SPANKY which surprisingly opened my eyes ... I still like both to a lot of people's surprise ... I agree with dwills on the Motors... But it's not always the case as I've owned a few with for sure Big Blocks lol !! I'm just trying to see if we as a breed of blue tickers can lay our bloodlines down to an extent try to go outside our box and go for sure enough big motored tree jamming blue dogs with whatever goes with it.. Some of my best hounds were so stinking trashy (TW's and Blues)but with patience became some of my best..Not saying they have to be trashy to be good but that drive you can't teach.. I've always loved layup dogs and found alot it thru the SPANKY.. And it seems to pass on down thru his offspring...I think they are Blues that can if pushed and hunted on the big stage be capable of winning. But on a larger scale something is missing ? I don't think it's just bad luck that has kept them off the big stage... Don't know about everyone we but I want one that will win big!! LOL !! Just being honest.. Had one blue that had it all but lost him early and now I want another one!! Lol ! Honestly don't have the answer :: maybe some new blood and as I stated in other post throw bloodlines out and try some just crossing A$$ kicker Coondogs to A$$ kicker Coondogs crosses .. Maybe ? See what happens... Let me say bloodline of course matters .. Most definitely !! I'm just seeing what we can do to better the breed by listening and learning from those outside the breed. Different perspective... Might help ?? Thanks to everyone

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Virginia Junk Yard Kennels ........JYD Kennels
Chris Cornell..........................Matt Sebastian
Cana, VA 24317....................Laurel Springs NC
336 648 9919..........................336 927 2818
( Gone But Not Forgotten )
GR NITE CH Virginia Junk Yard Dog ( SPANKY)
***Placed 14th at 2008 UKC World Hunt****
Gr Nite Ch Gr.ChVirginia Junk Yard Atomic Dog ( A.D.
:Nite Ch Gr Ch Virginia Junk Yard Poacher
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VIRGINIA JUNK YARD FACEY
GA JUNK YARD TRAPPER
VIRGINIA JUNKYARD STORM
GA JUNK YARD MABEL
JUNK YARD EL CHAPO
All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
TWs
Present :

GRNITECH Skuna River Knock Em Out John
Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
Past:
GRNITECH Cornell's Slickrock Liz R.I.P.
NTCH Cornell's Slickrock Jenny R.I.P.
NTCH Little Woods Smooth Silk R.I.P.
PR Cana's Pro Joe R.I.P.

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Now instead of worrying what we'd breed our gyps to. Id take those good bred blue gyps and find me a walker stud. If I really wanted a blue x walker..

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Lol

LOL !! I've heard that works !! Lol !!but to the dyed in the wood Blueticker, they want it out of blues which is understandable ... Where I live it's kind of a normal thing to cross hounds to get certain traits that may be weak with bear hunting and cat hunting so prominent. Some of my best were crossed, but that being said we are hoping to just get insight into to a positive direction to put Blue consistently stronger all the way around...just a note: Bad Habit and Blue females worked great but again we are trying to stay in the breed and take the strong to the strong ... Thanks Ghorley ..Chris

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Virginia Junk Yard Kennels ........JYD Kennels
Chris Cornell..........................Matt Sebastian
Cana, VA 24317....................Laurel Springs NC
336 648 9919..........................336 927 2818
( Gone But Not Forgotten )
GR NITE CH Virginia Junk Yard Dog ( SPANKY)
***Placed 14th at 2008 UKC World Hunt****
Gr Nite Ch Gr.ChVirginia Junk Yard Atomic Dog ( A.D.
:Nite Ch Gr Ch Virginia Junk Yard Poacher
GRCH NITECH ANDERSONS WILD N BLUE POUNDER
SPANKYS NORTHEN BLUE MEG
CIRRENT:
Virginia Junk Yard Kid Rock
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VIRGINIA JUNK YARD BLUE
VIRGINIA JUNK YARD FACEY
GA JUNK YARD TRAPPER
VIRGINIA JUNKYARD STORM
GA JUNK YARD MABEL
JUNK YARD EL CHAPO
All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
TWs
Present :

GRNITECH Skuna River Knock Em Out John
Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
Past:
GRNITECH Cornell's Slickrock Liz R.I.P.
NTCH Cornell's Slickrock Jenny R.I.P.
NTCH Little Woods Smooth Silk R.I.P.
PR Cana's Pro Joe R.I.P.

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Names

Thanks for your responses so far but still listening ?

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Chris Cornell..........................Matt Sebastian
Cana, VA 24317....................Laurel Springs NC
336 648 9919..........................336 927 2818
( Gone But Not Forgotten )
GR NITE CH Virginia Junk Yard Dog ( SPANKY)
***Placed 14th at 2008 UKC World Hunt****
Gr Nite Ch Gr.ChVirginia Junk Yard Atomic Dog ( A.D.
:Nite Ch Gr Ch Virginia Junk Yard Poacher
GRCH NITECH ANDERSONS WILD N BLUE POUNDER
SPANKYS NORTHEN BLUE MEG
CIRRENT:
Virginia Junk Yard Kid Rock
VIRGINIA JUNK YARD BOONE
VIRGINIA JUNK YARD BLUE
VIRGINIA JUNK YARD FACEY
GA JUNK YARD TRAPPER
VIRGINIA JUNKYARD STORM
GA JUNK YARD MABEL
JUNK YARD EL CHAPO
All my Blue hounds have Sparetime Spanky blood in their veins..My Choice....I like it ! My TWs could use some of it
TWs
Present :

GRNITECH Skuna River Knock Em Out John
Skuna River Crazy Train
Skuna River Carolina Katy Daly
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Someone said they were a few Blue Dogs making some noise in PKC ? What are those dogs and who owns them?? Thanks

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NTCH Little Woods Smooth Silk R.I.P.
PR Cana's Pro Joe R.I.P.

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lil off topic but. I think as bluetickers we breed to much within a certain line and worry to much about what we will cross the pups back on, meaning we're breeding more for down the road instead of right now. Also the blue lines are mainly regional instead of national. Btw: days of blueticks being slow and lazy are and have been long gone or they are around these parts anyways and i got the worn out boots to prove it. Guess alot of folks just draw out with the avg blue that joe blow enters and judges em all on him, ive hunted enuff to know not to judge any walker or any hound of another breed on a single dog or even a few from a certain breed or line. Put ya a lil echo or bullet in that spanky stuff chris it worked great before

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Perry Ross has one winning in Pkc prety regular. Its a female though. Clyde Murphy has a good blue male in middle Ga...Michael Head does in north ga. I even think his is a SS and performance sire and collected! That's taking it pretty serious. I like that. A Feller that believes in his stud.

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