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4 dog cast 2 dogs tree, 2 handlers treed vote to circle and 2 vote to minus, a no doubt slick with a knot no hole seen and tree is about 6 inches across at the knot no way a coon could be there. How is this to be handled?

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2-2 tree vote is always circled in UKC.

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Thanks Jim

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I disagree majority of cast wins if vote is two to two then its not majority meaning it needs to be deleted

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Thats also what the advisor says to do

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Page 25 at the top says 2 to 2 vote ( no majority ) must be circled.

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Originally posted by Randy Howard
4 dog cast 2 dogs tree, 2 handlers treed vote to circle and 2 vote to minus, a no doubt slick with a knot no hole seen and tree is about 6 inches across at the knot no way a coon could be there. How is this to be handled?

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Originally posted by ssgied
Page 25 at the top says 2 to 2 vote ( no majority ) must be circled.

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Thanks for the info always thought u deleted

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Originally posted by truly
My comment is not in regards as to how to score it, but more in how to describe it. If two people vote to circle then it is NOT "a no doubt slick". It is in fact an unknown tree. YOU may have no doubt, but clearly 2 other cast members do.
I am amazed at how often people come back to the clubhouse talking about an "obvious, no doubt" situation when in fact they have been outvoted. Seems like a good way to stir up trouble. As the story would be told by the other two cast members, "it was an obvious, no doubt circle tree". Which would not be accurate either.

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I disagree majority of cast wins if vote is two to two then its not majority meaning it needs to be deleted

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Disagree all you'd like, you're wrong. Look it up in the rules 2-2 vote is circled never deleted.

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The coonhound advisor clarifies split votes and authority of a hunting judge -


Rule four plainly states; points will be minus when dogs tree and majority of the cast, when hunting Judge is used, can plainly see no coon is there.

In the situation you described (2 handlers treed vote to circle and 2 vote to minus), the cast did not reach a majority decision so the tree must be circled.

Remember, you must have majority of cast vote in order to plus a tree; you must have majority of cast to minus a tree. If you don’t have majority one way or the other, then you must circle the tree. The hunting Judge does not break a two to two vote when it comes to scoring a tree.

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