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C Ehlinger
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Ivomec

did any one ever give too much an have a dog get sick are anything like that

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gave it to a wormy dog that someone dropped at our house last year, didnt think about heart worms, 2 days later she was grave yard dead. had a buddy that gave to much to a dog once he acted funny for a day or 2 but he came out of it.

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gave it to a wormy dog that someone dropped at our house last year, didnt think about heart worms, 2 days later she was grave yard dead. had a buddy that gave to much to a dog once he acted funny for a day or 2 but he came out of it.


Yes I gave a cc every day to two mangy looking 20 lb female pups for forty straight days and it cured them but they are not near as big as the male pup that was not mangy. I'm sure it was that mean nasty ivermeck that stunted my little girls while it cured them from mange while the non mangy male was just growing his ass off.

It says right on the bottle, DON"T Give it to SHeppard type dogs., What was the dropoff wormy dog? Sheppard?? Do you have a clue? Why don't you Sue and find out?

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ive never heard of a dog overdosed by ivomec. i knew a man that cured his dogs of heartworms with it.

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do you give it to them by mouth or inject it?

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I had a 50# female accidently get a FULL tube of ivermec horse wormer. She was very sick for a couple of days; was blind and staggeringbut still eating. By the third day she was poor looking but ok and in just a few days she was looking and doing fine.

I give 0.3 of a CC each month (3 lines in a 3CC syringe) of 1% ivermec and have no worms except tape worms. For heart worm prevention 0.1 of a CC is the correct dosage for a 76# dog using 1% solution. I put it on a dog biscuit or bread.

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quote:
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do you give it to them by mouth or inject it?


Take your pick. I give it orally. Dosage is 1/10th cc per 10 lbs

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Dale Young
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I give all mine 1/2cc once a month of the 1% solution . Their weight varies a bit but that seems to work for all of them. I just squirt it on their feed but mine are all good eaters that clean their food all up. Pups I sometimes put it on dog treats so I know who gets what.

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Re: Ivomec

quote:
Originally posted by C Ehlinger
did any one ever give too much an have a dog get sick are anything like that


if you give to much and kill to many heart worms at one time in a dog that is 2 1/2 yrs old and not been treated, it will kill it, the paste will.
found this out the hard way when i got a neglected female, her toenails were so long they had curled under and were growing into her pads. gave her to much paste in a hurry 1 evening, buried her that night at midnight, hurt me bad after had brought her back to health. did'nt think paste would hurt them up till that day. have treated other peoples since, dogs 6 yrs old that had never been treated and got them heartworm free after about a yr, slowly treating them with liqiud ivermec.

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have yall actually killed all the worms with ivomec? Or just kill the new ones from growing? Ive heard folks claimed their dogs were worm free completely after the ivomec treatment for a month. Just wondering

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About .1 cc is per 20 lbs is plenty and once every 3 months is plenty. Over-dose can cause permenant liver damage. Ivermectin kills ONLY heartworms. If you're treating your dog with Ivomec as an all-purpose wormer, your kiddin' yourself.

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quote:
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About .1 cc is per 20 lbs is plenty and once every 3 months is plenty. Over-dose can cause permenant liver damage. Ivermectin kills ONLY heartworms. If you're treating your dog with Ivomec as an all-purpose wormer, your kiddin' yourself.

I'm talking about hearworms obviously

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Re: Re: Ivomec

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if you give to much and kill to many heart worms at one time in a dog that is 2 1/2 yrs old and not been treated, it will kill it, the paste will.
found this out the hard way when i got a neglected female, her toenails were so long they had curled under and were growing into her pads. gave her to much paste in a hurry 1 evening, buried her that night at midnight, hurt me bad after had brought her back to health. did'nt think paste would hurt them up till that day. have treated other peoples since, dogs 6 yrs old that had never been treated and got them heartworm free after about a yr, slowly treating them with liqiud ivermec.



It most likely wouldnt have been the ivomec that killed the dog if it already was infested with adult hearworms but I think thats what you were saying anyway. The problem is when a dog is loaded with adult heartworms and the ivomec is given it kills the heart worms and can clog up the heart and this is what will actually kill the dog. Unless it is or has genes from some of the hearding breeds that can Not be given ivomec. When giving ivomec it is not preventing heartworms in the future it is killing the young ones that are present at that time.

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i gave my 45# female just a hair over 1/2 cc 3 days in a row an she got very sick couldnt even stand she was so weak she seems too be coming out of it now

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quote:
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have yall actually killed all the worms with ivomec? Or just kill the new ones from growing? Ive heard folks claimed their dogs were worm free completely after the ivomec treatment for a month. Just wondering


1% Ivomec at a dosage of .1 cc per 10lbs will and does kill heartworms and intestinal worms except for tape worms. You will need something else for tapes (praziquantel). .1 cc per 10 lbs is way overdosing them for just heartworms. Ivomec plus will harm your dog, you need to use the regular ivomec or generic equivelent with a 1% ivermectin solution.

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quote:
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i gave my 45# female just a hair over 1/2 cc 3 days in a row an she got very sick couldnt even stand she was so weak she seems too be coming out of it now


Had she been on a monthly heartworm preventative before this?

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Its a very good possibility that her "sickness" was a result of the dead/dying heartworms and not the ivomec itself. That is why vets will not put a dog on heartworm meds, that have not previously been on it monthly, without a neg. blood test for heartworms. There is the risk of the dead adult hearworms clogging the heart and killing the dog.

Dogs that are genetically hypersensitive to ivermectin (shepherds and the herding breeds) typically don't just get a little sick. They have a genetic anomaly that allows the drug to directly reach their central nervous system and usually have issues related to that - seizures/tremors etc.

For a dog that is not sensitive it usually takes in the 1000xs of an overdose to have any visable symptoms if any at all.

A genetic test can be performed to see if a dog is sensitive to ivermectin.

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Ivermectin kills ONLY heartworms.


Next time you have a litter of pups give them a dose of ivermec at 1/10 CC per 10#'s and see for yourself that your statement is totally false.

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Yes I gave a cc every day to two mangy looking 20 lb female pups for forty straight days and it cured them but they are not near as big as the male pup that was not mangy. I'm sure it was that mean nasty ivermeck that stunted my little girls while it cured them from mange while the non mangy male was just growing his ass off.

It says right on the bottle, DON"T Give it to SHeppard type dogs., What was the dropoff wormy dog? Sheppard?? Do you have a clue? Why don't you Sue and find out?



It was a pointer she was wormy and skinny, i fed her for a week and when she wast putting on weight i wormed her with it. so no it wasnt a "shepard" and no im not going to sue anyone over it, it wasnt my dog. I just felt sorry for her and was trying to find out where she came from. It also says on the bottle for use in cattle only but there sure are alot of folks giving it to dogs. Im one of them give it to all my dogs every month.

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Dosage of ivermectin for heartworm prevention. Proper dosage is 2.72 mcg/lb of body weight. This is same dosage as heargard pills . A 65 lb dog would require 2.72 x 65= 176.8mcg ivermectin. One cc of cattle ivermectin contains 10 mg which equates to 10000mcg/cc. To properly dose your dog you would need to deliver .018 cc of ivermectin orally once a month. Since you can not measure that small amount in a syringe the proper thing to do would be to dilute the ivermectin. I suggest diluting 1 cc of ivermectin with 49 cc of propylene gylcol to yield 50 cc total. This will be a homogenious solution that will not have to be mixed before use. The concentration after dilution will be 10000mcg/cc divided by 50 cc yielding a solution of 200mcg/cc. Your 65 lb dog would now require a little less than a cc orally once a month. I dose mine 1cc and this falls within the acceptable range per the heartgard package insert. Hope this helps

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Ray Conrad, Good information. I mix with water and shake before using. ..Why monthly? Considering the maturity rate of heartworms it seems every 3 months would suffice.

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If your dog has heart worms give him 50mg of benadryl about 30 min before you give him the ivomec. give him .8 of a cc this will keep it from having an reaction to the larva die off. the medicine does not kill adult worms it kill the larva. It is called the slow kill method for heart worms. adults worms life span is two years if they dont reproduce at the end of this period they will be cured. so in short on your first big dose give benadryl then ivomec then every month for 23 months from that day give him or her .3 cc of the medicine this will keep larva from hatching and your hound will be cured and it will also prevent future heart worms. This came from a well respected vet.

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IVERMEC

3/10 OR .3 CC AT 4 MTHS EVERY 2 MTHS FOR LIFE MEANS NO HEARTWORMS.

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