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I have no idea if this has been discussed before on the boards, if it has, forgive me. Last night while on a cast, one of our cast members ask a question about carrying a concealed weapon while on a hunt. He had taken his gun off and left it in the truck. Now I know we are not suppose to have firearms at UKC events but another in the cast said that ukc couldn't overide a state right to carry if it's done legally. I didn't know the answer and was just curious what folks thought about it. thanks.

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Keep it concealed no one will know but you.

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Concealed carry still does not allow the weapon to be carried in certain circumstances; such as places of worship, places where alcohol is sold for on-site consumption, a courthouse, and etc. In addition one of those places (18.2-308) is where prohibited by the owner of the property or when posted as prohibited. Since the event is listed/posted as prohibited I'd say they cannot be carried.

Don't get me wrong, I support his right to own and carry, but not to carry at an event where it was published as being prohibited.

Edit - This was VIRGINIA law, not my home state.

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I'm purty sure UKC isn't about to get involved in this one. We already know what they will do if you shoot a coon out during a UKC hunt, ask Engle. But I'm darn sure they ain't gonna do the same for legal carry. Common sense is the rule on this one.

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Concealed carry still does not allow the weapon to be carried in certain circumstances; such as places of worship, places where alcohol is sold for on-site consumption, a courthouse, and etc. In addition one of those places (18.2-308) is where prohibited by the owner of the property or when posted as prohibited. Since the event is listed/posted as prohibited I'd say they cannot be carried.

Don't get me wrong, I support his right to own and carry, but not to carry at an event where it was published as being prohibited.

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Originally posted by Chris Herring
Concealed carry still does not allow the weapon to be carried in certain circumstances; such as places of worship, places where alcohol is sold for on-site consumption, a courthouse, and etc. In addition one of those places (18.2-308) is where prohibited by the owner of the property or when posted as prohibited. Since the event is listed/posted as prohibited I'd say they cannot be carried.

Don't get me wrong, I support his right to own and carry, but not to carry at an event where it was published as being prohibited.

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Any business or property owner can prohibit firearms on their premises.

But that dosent make it a law, If you are packing leagaly and enter a prohibited business they have the right to ask you to leave, if you dont they can call the cops and they ask you to leave....

just say'n....

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I certainly do not like being on a cast with a person carrying a weapon. I certainly have been on casts (in another registry) where a guy made a point of letting the other cast members know he had a weapon and he was carrying the score card. The same fellow in another cast (again, another registry) was carrying a gun and shooting out game to the dogs while on a cast.

I reckon many of you would say why attend hunts at the club? Well, it was the only hunt around and most of the time I don't draw out with that guy. And, the club was run by the guy's son. Most of the club's members would favor him over me if a stink was raised, so complaining wouldn't get me anywhere. I have seen game wardens near where the casts were run and if a game warden approached the cast, I would consider telling the game warden about the concealed weapon. I don't want to thought of as a snitch but it is not safe being on a cast with a fellow carrying a concealed weapon, (illegal in Illinois).

It is a real tuogh situation that I hate. But, nothing would be gained by complaining, in fact, it would likely be turned against me.

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I support the right to carry but defently not on a cast. It wont hurt people to leave there gun in the truck for a few hours. Cant realey see why ud need one on a cast anyway.

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Which makes me wonder how many dead men down through history went to their grave with their last thought being "Couldn't see why I'd need one........"

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Would you feel any safer if it was legal in IL?
Dave what is your opinion of our great states gun laws? Just asking .

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Which makes me wonder how many dead men down through history went to their grave with their last thought being "Couldn't see why I'd need one........"

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I watched the grand american right after it was posted on here a few weeks ago and a guy behind the table was carrying in plain view of the public at a ukc event so I would venture to say its not a big deal to them and if it is then it should go for everybody jmo

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Would you feel any safer if it was legal in IL?
Dave what is your opinion of our great states gun laws? Just asking .

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Originally posted by JiM
Which makes me wonder how many dead men down through history went to their grave with their last thought being "Couldn't see why I'd need one........"

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Originally posted by ONEDOGNIGHT
Keep it concealed no one will know but you.

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Originally posted by JiM
I'm purty sure UKC isn't about to get involved in this one. We already know what they will do if you shoot a coon out during a UKC hunt, ask Engle. But I'm darn sure they ain't gonna do the same for legal carry. Common sense is the rule on this one.

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Back a few months ago Todd posted.If you have a C W P
you can carry.

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United Kennel Club respects, defends and even encourages your right to lawful concealed carry. We have no restrictions towards lawful concealed carry. Our no guns policy is primarily directed towards 1) gun trading on the grounds during an event 2) open carry on casts 3) unlawful carry at any time 4) to a lesser degree having rifles in vehicles on a cast. We don't go so far as to search trucks but would take action against illegal transport because it could jeopardize the issue of state permits to conduct nite hunts.

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Thanks for reminding me Tom T.

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Jim i am a M O H i try to keep up so there are no suprises

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so does todds ruling mean that as long as you lawfully cary and transport them then you can litterely take your guns to any hunt and compare everyones guns as long as they are not trading guns??? i mean the rule states NO GUNS ALLOWED ON THE GROUNDS during a ukc licenced event. to me that means if i go to a hunt with a gun in my truck or dog box then i deserved to be scratched as i broke the rules, on accident but i still broke them. by todds ruling on guns can i take it that as long as i am 21 and i obey the laws of the state i am in and i am not drinking and driving then i can have alchol on the grounds drinking as long as i am obeying the law? I KNOW WHAT EVERYONES ANSWER IS GOING TO BE , but if you can disregard 1 rule then why cant you disregard allof them as long as you are not breaking any local, state, or federal laws????

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what todd is saying is if you have a conceled carry permit you can have one on you.

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I support the right to carry but defently not on a cast. It wont hurt people to leave there gun in the truck for a few hours. Cant realey see why ud need one on a cast anyway.

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i understand that, but in most states if it is open view then it is legal to have on you. so which would you rather have, knowing someone has one and saying it is ok or not knowing and wandering who does and who doesnt. also just because you have a ccp doesnt mean that it is legal from one state to another.

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i understand that, but in most states if it is open view then it is legal to have on you. so which would you rather have, knowing someone has one and saying it is ok or not knowing and wandering who does and who doesnt. also just because you have a ccp doesnt mean that it is legal from one state to another.

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I believe in allowing to carry for the safety of the dogs and the cast. There are plenty of animals in the woods that can hurt or kill us and the dogs. Never had a hog on our place but when I found out we did was when I was hunting and a boar was maybe 8 feet from us with the hair on his back bristled up and not happy. An off duty cop was with us and luckily he had his Glock on his ankle. I don't want to know what would have happened if he didn't. Now that was pleasure hunting but do you think that 400 lb boar knew or cared if it was pleasure or competition hunting?

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